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Old 04-08-2009, 06:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I don't know if you guys have seen the campaign AGAINST prohibition, but here in Texas it looks like this:


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Stop HB 902 in Texas!

House Bill 902, a bill that seeks to reduce criminal sanctions of possession of up to two ounces of marijuana to a Class C Misdemeanor, has been introduced in the Texas House and referred to the Committee on Criminal Jurisprudence.

Two ounces of marijuana is not insignificant inasmuch as this quantity could be used to roll as many as 120-240 joints!

Reducing criminal sanctions takes away all efforts at early intervention. Without the involvement of the legal system, assessments and intervention may not be available.


Please click on Take Action and send a prewritten letter to your representative and request that they vote NO on HB 902.

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I am writing to urge you to vote NO on HB 902, a bill that seeks to make possession of up to two ounces of marijuana a Class C misdemeanor.

A Class C Misdemeanor is a fine only offense, punishable by a fine of up to $500.00. Consider that one ounce of marijuana constitutes anywhere from 60 to 120 joints and two ounces can contain enough marijuana for 120 to 240 joints. Therefore, one who is “dealing” in the sale of marijuana would only be punished with a misdemeanor charge, even though they may have enough marijuana to roll 240 marijuana joints in their possession. They would then only pay a fine of up to $500.00 to continue with business as usual.

In decreasing penalties for possession of up to 2 ounces of marijuana to a fine only offense, House bill 902 takes away the opportunity for the most effective means of intervention. Under the current system in Texas, a defendant with this type of drug charge would be given an opportunity to enter into a program such as drug court. Research indicates that drug courts and diversion programs can reduce recidivism and promote other positive outcomes. Regular visits with the judge and proper rewards and sanctions, combined with substance abuse treatment, can turn an offender into a productive member of society. Decriminalization would remove the ability to leverage drug users into drug courts. According to a 2003 study released by the National Institute of Justice (NIJ) from a sample of 17,000 drug court graduates nationwide, within one year of program graduation, only 16.4 percent had been rearrested and charged with a felony offense. Historically, adult substance abuse offenders do not remain abstinent after an incarceration term alone; it is with the addition of treatment and the challenge of a drug court program that they are more likely to achieve the goal of remaining drug free.

When individuals simply mail in a small fine rather than face a judge and potential jail time, the impact of consequences for bad behavior is significantly lost. Without meaningful consequences, the user is likely to continue and escalate use. Without the involvement of the legal system, assessments and intervention may not be available, potentially trapping citizens of Texas in the cycle of addiction.

House bill 902 ignores the societal costs of decriminalizing marijuana. Decriminalization will most assuredly increase drug use and health care costs. Marijuana is not a harmless drug as the pro-drug lobby claims; it is an addictive drug that poses significant health consequences to its users. Recent studies have linked marijuana use to birth defects, respiratory system damage, cancer, mental illness, violence, infertility, and immune system damage.

Decriminalization will also increase crime-related costs. 75 percent of children in foster care are placed there because of a parent’s substance abuse. Sexual assault is frequently facilitated by substance use, with some experts putting the number at over 60 percent. The U. S. Department of Justice found that 60 percent of domestic violence offenders also have substance abuse problems.

In closing, I trust that you will consider these important issues before you vote and that your vote on this bill will reflect what is truly best for the citizens of Texas.
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Oh, and that online form is the same format as NORML's... HaHa the fight for and against legalization either used the same web format out of coincidence or they are one in the same!

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Old 04-08-2009, 07:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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God damn theres a lot of bullshit in there!

What recent studies are they talking about?
240 joints from 2 ozs, thats absolutely fucking ridiculous!
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240 joints from 2 ozs, thats absolutely fucking ridiculous!
Must be Texas ounces. (Everything's bigger in Texas.)
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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God damn theres a lot of bullshit in there!

What recent studies are they talking about?
240 joints from 2 ozs, thats absolutely fucking ridiculous!
Not really. It's just standard cop math.

One ounce of pot will make 120 joints.

Each plant, no matter the size, will produce one pound of weed.

A pound of weed (each plant) is worth $4,000, no matter its quality.

I'm not pulling these numbers out of my ass. This is real cop math. Google it.
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Old 04-09-2009, 06:30 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Interesting. Where did you find that?
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Old 04-09-2009, 06:40 AM   #6 (permalink)
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That is ridiculous. If this is the info that our House representatives and congress are seeing, then no fuckin wonder we're making progress as slow as we are.

I found that site last night when I was researching what happened with Texas bill HB902 to make it a ticket only offense instead of jail time/etc.

Spreading correct facts is not an easy thing to do. Miscommunication, omitted subjects, corruption, ignorance. These reps and senators only know what they are told. I don't think we're getting through. Where are OUR "Above the Influence" ads? Those ATI ads are seriously what is informing the mass populace. I've spoken to countless members in my community and none had heard of the Bill HB902. Our cause is not at the forefront when it needs to be. Sure we laugh a lot, but are we to be laughed at and insulted with no repercussions? Are we just the stereotypical slackers and procrastinators? I think not. And what really pisses me off, is that nowhere online last night could I find a fucking word on what actually happened with the bill. And yesterday was when it was scheduled for a hearing... I sure figured with a bill this important for Texas, someone would be following along and keeping the community updated... guess not. This is why we fail. It's up to us to talk to people in our communities in a passive, non-aggressive manner and just give them unbiased facts. Information is power.
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Old 04-09-2009, 12:10 PM   #7 (permalink)
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You are so right about our side not getting the word out and not writing or calling enough. That's why I set up Operation Contact Hi, a weekly list of state representatives and newspapers to get people to write in groups, because that tends to grab more attention that four or five form letters per month.

Personally, I hate those internet form letters. I think they cripple the hell out of our cause. You said, Admin, that our reps are uninformed. I agree. I blame those online form letters. They don't educate our reps at all. In fact, once they've been read one time, there's no reason for the recipient to ever read that same one again. And, the same ones get left up on the same websites for months, even years on end!

I feel like yelling, "They're FORM LETTERS, people! How many times do you think they've been read?", 100? 300? No. Try once, maybe twice. Because after that, the sender and subject line both become recognizable. They get counted one time and deleted. They become a statistic.

Sure, there's a use for positive statistics on our side, but there is also a use for educating our representatives. And, if you write them on your own, as opposed to sending a cheesy internet form letter, your letter actually gets read, and counts as the opinion of TEN people, not just one!

Yes, I hate form letters. They give their users a false sense of having made a significant contribution.
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I also know your frustration at finding so many people who've never heard of HB 902. I discovered the same thing a few months ago when I got online looking for information about HB 164. People made comments like, "It's about time Texas got a MMJ bill!", not realizing that this was at least the fourth or fifth one in recent years.

I saw either nothing about it (back then) on any of the Texas pro-legalization websites, except for Texas Coalition on Compassionate Care, Texas' only NPO dedicated to legalizing medical marijuana in this state. I didnt' see anything about it on any forums such as this one. I found one event gathering in Texas, and it was an annual one, in favor of legalization and did not mention HB 164 (or any other bill) at all. It was as if they were going to ignore it during their get-together.

So, I decided to hold a Candle-Light Vigil to honor medical marijuana 'patients' in Texas and to call attention to HB 164. I'm trying to make it more 'family-oriented' (for lack of a better description) than all the other gatherings are. I want it to be fun for everyone, solemn when appropriate, educational, and act as an outreach to reach out and expand our crowd. I like college students, but we've got to reach more than just any one age-group in order to start making real progress in this state!

So far, DFW NORML, LEAP, & TCCC are all going to be there, and I've booked a dog rescue to bring some dogs, which will expand our normal outreach.

I'm still looking for the right band and a food vendor. I think it's going to be fun and educational. I hope it will really help the people who risk so much because of the medication they take, here in Texas.
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I agree completely. I know I wouldn't read an email twice if it had the same subject line. I just saw your other post about what you're talking about. Thank you. Everybody needs to take the time to sit down and send an old fashioned snail mail letter to these cats on a weekly basis. Who has that motivation? Hopefully we don't live up to the stereotype of being completely useless and lazy... DO IT!
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Interesting. Where did you find that?
Look here:

Cannabis Yields 1992: Drug Enforcement Administration

or here:

The Science Behind the SAN Guidelines
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Law will not reform until the law makers are actual cannabis smokers and appreciate the GIFT ,that Mother Nature has given them.
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