Obama likely to redact key CIA torture memos - Page 3

Ego Tripping · 04-22-2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by HYPERFUKBOT

dude you either have your eyes totally closed or have selective sight/perception because he's totally flipped the bitch since he was elected.

Verk said it best. You just keep regurgitating what others seem to be saying and saying general shit like this, without really bringing anything worth discussing in a fair manner.

Kompressor · 04-22-2009, 01:11 PM

I like how he flipped the bitch because he agreed to release the memos in the first place.

stoneric · 04-22-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kompressor

^ Because they were following orders from Ashcroft/Gonzales' justice department that declared them legal in their 'extraordinary' circumstances. Regardless of their own personal feelings, they had to follow orders and directives. That is why the decision to prosecute is now on Eric Holder.

I was asking roach because he made it sound like the CIA agents are above the law.

Following orders doesn't absolve them of anything.

Kompressor · 04-22-2009, 01:31 PM

Under their pretenses, they were acting legally. If they're going to prosecute, prosecute those that illegally rewrote the law. Not the men and women doing their job, whom would be fully accountable if the laws weren't rewritten for these tactics.

stoneric · 04-22-2009, 02:15 PM

I agree on prosecuting those responsible for giving the orders. Still, any scumbucket carrying out those orders hardly deserves acolades for just "doing their jobs". Torturing is a war crime.

cantSEEme · 04-22-2009, 02:56 PM

legally, wouldnt holder/prosecution have to go after the lawyers who did rewrite this in the first place? i dont think they could pick and choose, right? if they go after one, then they have to go after all, from lawyers to cheney and bush imo.

edit: after re-reading komps article post on this, it seems to me obama is taking the clinton approach on gays in the military with the dont ask, dont tell policy. in trying to please everybody, he will unfortunately please nobody, and then it will be an even bigger mess down the road. he needs to either go all the way, or nothing.

Prophet Saddam · 04-22-2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by K

just crumbs left out for all you good hearted conspiracy followers.

no conspiracy to soapbox about, well just make one up then.

sort of makes you look like a total ass doesn't it.

and that's why I trolled you thread.

You could have said this in your first reply instead of making an ass of yourself. Instead, we're left with your stance of convenience/blindness...Too easy for you to say you were right all along.

No conspiracy?

It's in the memos. :duh:

/and thanks for calling your posts what they are/were - care to remove them?

04-22-2009, 01:11 PM	#42 (permalink)
Kompressor Voice of Reason Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Illinois Posts: 8,361 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3,069 Times in 1,634 Posts	I like how he flipped the bitch because he agreed to release the memos in the first place. __________________ Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought. -H. Bergson

04-22-2009, 01:31 PM	#44 (permalink)
Kompressor Voice of Reason Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Illinois Posts: 8,361 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3,069 Times in 1,634 Posts	Under their pretenses, they were acting legally. If they're going to prosecute, prosecute those that illegally rewrote the law. Not the men and women doing their job, whom would be fully accountable if the laws weren't rewritten for these tactics. __________________ Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought. -H. Bergson

04-22-2009, 02:56 PM	#46 (permalink)
cantSEEme Cold School Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,019 Thanks: 152 Thanked 127 Times in 457 Posts	legally, wouldnt holder/prosecution have to go after the lawyers who did rewrite this in the first place? i dont think they could pick and choose, right? if they go after one, then they have to go after all, from lawyers to cheney and bush imo. edit: after re-reading komps article post on this, it seems to me obama is taking the clinton approach on gays in the military with the dont ask, dont tell policy. in trying to please everybody, he will unfortunately please nobody, and then it will be an even bigger mess down the road. he needs to either go all the way, or nothing. Last edited by cantSEEme; 04-22-2009 at 03:30 PM.

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stoneric bougeman Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,646 Thanks: 704 Thanked 1,512 Times in 1,067 Posts	I agree on prosecuting those responsible for giving the orders. Still, any scumbucket carrying out those orders hardly deserves acolades for just "doing their jobs". Torturing is a war crime.

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