United States of Texas

drunken13astard · 04-22-2009, 10:55 AM

So I was watching John Stewart the other day and he mentioned how Gov. Rick Perry has "threatened" to seceed from the good ole U.S. of A.

Apparently he (meaning Texas as a whole) are fed up with the taxing, spending and debt this country has accumulated. He said he have strayed too far from what the founding fathers would have wanted.

From the Article:
"Perry repeated his running theme that Texas' economy is in relatively good shape compared with other states and with the "federal budget mess." Many in the crowd held signs deriding President Barack Obama and the $786 billion federal economic stimulus package."

Quote from Rick Perry:
"There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."

Full article:
Gov. Rick Perry: Texas Could Secede, Leave Union

Just wanted to get some input on how ya'll felt about it. I personally think it's a great idea and even Ron Paul has supported the idea.

FineazPR · 04-22-2009, 11:00 AM

Wow!! We just recently moved here and I am so into Texas, so far. So far, I'm a little scared and a little excited about the whole "seceding the union" thing, just the same!!

Ego Tripping · 04-22-2009, 11:04 AM

All talk. The ramifications are too large.

I would be really interested to know how much of the stimulus money he accepted, though.

Being · 04-22-2009, 11:34 AM

So they would just be there own country relying on mostly oil and gas (Texas Net Revenue by Source - Fiscal 2008) and as soon as that runs out or we find an economically sound way to replace oil and gas, they would become poor asses.

Grieves · 04-22-2009, 11:40 AM

North American currency union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

NAFTA superhighway - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

won't happen, texas is too vital to this plan....a plan that is well on its way to coming into fruition...

super.admin · 04-22-2009, 12:14 PM

Ha. You can have all the Texas you want. I believe, as Americans we should be coming together as one, not segregating ourselves further. Putting the blame on our current leader does nothing but show ignorance. There is a thing called “History”. Sometimes we need to look back to look forward. If you actually research our fiscal climate over the past 10 years, and tell me it’s all Obama’s fault, I would think you read a lot of propaganda emails, instead of researching actual facts… I am not in support of any politician or any government, but we have to do the best with what we have. Maybe if we wouldn’t have started a war that had no relevance to us, we would have saved how many trillions of dollars? Legalize Marijuana, tax it, regulate it like tobacco and alcohol… huge boost in economy. Hemp; medicine, fuel, clothing all grown within our country… People need to wake up and quit blaming everyone else about their problems and do something about it. Where were all the conservatives when Bush invaded our privacy and took us on a wild goose chase costing trillions of dollars. And don’t forget, we had a SURPLUS before Bush came into office. What’s the national deficit since he’s been in office? I’ll let you research that answer. Anywho, Texas can rot in it’s own stupidity for all I care. Stubborn, close-minded, prideful, greedy citizens is what I mostly see in the “wonderful” state of Taxes, I mean Texas. Just my opinion.

Have a beautiful day. And yes I live in Texas. For the time being. Economy might be good, but the mentality is "shoot it, kill it, ask questions later"

drunken13astard · 04-22-2009, 12:21 PM

America is over,there will be no "coming together" especially when China cuts off our credit. We are broke and there is no denying that. That said, if Texas actually wants to survive, maybe seceeding isn't the best way to go about it, but sticking with the U.S. doesn't sound too great either($786 billion out of thin air).

So we want to do something different instead of sticking to the same FAILING system, does that make us the bad guys, super.admin?

super.admin · 04-22-2009, 12:26 PM

Absolutely not. Different approaches need to happen. I don't see succession as a new and different approach, though. Remember the "Civil" War? I think the government has had too much power for way too long, and this nonsense will not stop until something is done to reduce governmental power of it's citizens. People are afraid to speak out. I don't have the answers, I only have questions.

drunken13astard · 04-22-2009, 12:35 PM

Yes the government is like a growing fungi that won't stop. The way I see it though: The U.S. needs Texas more than Texas needs the U.S. We are a mighty force to be messed with. What this seceed threat is doing is keeping the government in check, making sure they do not expand thier reach any further (Thanks mr. Change). If that don't stop the good ole government, then Texas will/might seceed.

super.admin · 04-22-2009, 12:47 PM

You really believe Texas will successfully remove itself from the USA? Never gonna happen. Successfully. Be like Waco all over the state of Texas.

I'll watch from afar. Good luck.

dubtrice · 04-22-2009, 12:58 PM

haha good luck on your own texas... watch, once they split they get invaded and claimed by mexico

Kompressor · 04-22-2009, 01:17 PM

If you had watched the full Stewart segment, you'd see that Texans polled against it by 75%.

super.admin · 04-22-2009, 01:28 PM

Haha. I kinda figured that... I live here and I never got a choice in the matter. Looks like ole Ricky Perry decided it himself... kinda like Bush saying "God told me to do it". Childish. Just like most people in authoritative roles, takes it on themselves to decide for the masses. But of course, now all the republicrats are on board. Weird how we never heard anything about the Bush stimulus plan that did shit. BUT! we all got money in our pocket, so that's all that matters. That's the only stimulus plan the American people understand. Me Me Me Hypocrites.

drunken13astard · 04-22-2009, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubtrice

haha good luck on your own texas... watch, once they split they get invaded and claimed by mexico

I've been waiting for an Alamo sequel for a couple years now, this might be my ticket.

verklingen · 04-22-2009, 03:03 PM

the republic of texas makes a mean country fried steak

but srsly, it's funny to my that the gov is entertaining an idea my friends and i thought would be cool in middle school. supposedly when texas became a state we had our right of secession legally documented.

drunken13astard · 04-22-2009, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kompressor

If you had watched the full Stewart segment, you'd see that Texans polled against it by 75%.

Yeah the people may be againist it, but the fact that we have this card (seceeding) in our back pocket that can help keep the government from too much power is great in my opinion. Now the fact that we could've used it on Bush.....I won't get into that.

Whether it works/goes through or not, I think its great we can call the government out and keep them from strangling our freedoms just a little longer.

Grieves · 04-22-2009, 03:08 PM

If you secede, the U.S. would embargo your ass in to the stone age...or slaughter all of you...

shelbert008 · 04-22-2009, 03:10 PM

haha oh man, this shit was so funny. And my grandma came out the day he announced it and was bitching and was all upset that he threatened to secede. I just found it immensely amusing. If they actually tried to secede, I could possibly support it. But we have some crazy ass republicans down here and that could turn this little "country" into a giant shit hole. Either way though, it's just funny.

drunken13astard · 04-22-2009, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grieves

If you secede, the U.S. would embargo your ass in to the stone age...or slaughter all of you...

My vote is for slaughter, they would find a way to pin W.M.D's on us..... or pirates.

stoneric · 04-22-2009, 04:01 PM

we're rough and we're texans with necks good and red. bye.

04-22-2009, 10:55 AM	#1 (permalink)
drunken13astard Just call me Asshole Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 486 Thanks: 28 Thanked 23 Times in 16 Posts	United States of Texas So I was watching John Stewart the other day and he mentioned how Gov. Rick Perry has "threatened" to seceed from the good ole U.S. of A. Apparently he (meaning Texas as a whole) are fed up with the taxing, spending and debt this country has accumulated. He said he have strayed too far from what the founding fathers would have wanted. From the Article: "Perry repeated his running theme that Texas' economy is in relatively good shape compared with other states and with the "federal budget mess." Many in the crowd held signs deriding President Barack Obama and the $786 billion federal economic stimulus package." Quote from Rick Perry: "There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot." Full article: Gov. Rick Perry: Texas Could Secede, Leave Union Just wanted to get some input on how ya'll felt about it. I personally think it's a great idea and even Ron Paul has supported the idea. __________________ Champagne for my real friends, and real pain for my sham friends

04-22-2009, 11:04 AM	#3 (permalink)
Ego Tripping Are you in? Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,468 Thanks: 229 Thanked 665 Times in 443 Posts	All talk. The ramifications are too large. I would be really interested to know how much of the stimulus money he accepted, though. __________________ God appears, and God is light, To those poor souls who dwell in night; But does a human form display To those who dwell in realms of day.

04-22-2009, 11:40 AM	#5 (permalink)
Grieves The Worst Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Interstate 8 Posts: 12,082 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 2,562 Thanked 3,113 Times in 1,708 Posts	North American currency union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia NAFTA superhighway - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia won't happen, texas is too vital to this plan....a plan that is well on its way to coming into fruition... __________________ "And no matter what they said dollar is not your friend and it's the feelings that are hard to know are the feelings that all come slow No matter what they said dollar is not your friend and these feelings that so hard to know are the feelings that wont let go No don't let go, till you find a home World Unite and I'll love you forever"

04-22-2009, 12:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
drunken13astard Just call me Asshole Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 486 Thanks: 28 Thanked 23 Times in 16 Posts	America is over,there will be no "coming together" especially when China cuts off our credit. We are broke and there is no denying that. That said, if Texas actually wants to survive, maybe seceeding isn't the best way to go about it, but sticking with the U.S. doesn't sound too great either($786 billion out of thin air). So we want to do something different instead of sticking to the same FAILING system, does that make us the bad guys, super.admin? __________________ Champagne for my real friends, and real pain for my sham friends

04-22-2009, 12:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
drunken13astard Just call me Asshole Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 486 Thanks: 28 Thanked 23 Times in 16 Posts	Yes the government is like a growing fungi that won't stop. The way I see it though: The U.S. needs Texas more than Texas needs the U.S. We are a mighty force to be messed with. What this seceed threat is doing is keeping the government in check, making sure they do not expand thier reach any further (Thanks mr. Change). If that don't stop the good ole government, then Texas will/might seceed. __________________ Champagne for my real friends, and real pain for my sham friends

04-22-2009, 11:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
FineazPR YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: A place I call MINE... Posts: 192 Thanks: 43 Thanked 18 Times in 15 Posts	Wow!! We just recently moved here and I am so into Texas, so far. So far, I'm a little scared and a little excited about the whole "seceding the union" thing, just the same!!

04-22-2009, 12:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
super.admin YaHookan Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 37 Thanks: 4 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Ha. You can have all the Texas you want. I believe, as Americans we should be coming together as one, not segregating ourselves further. Putting the blame on our current leader does nothing but show ignorance. There is a thing called “History”. Sometimes we need to look back to look forward. If you actually research our fiscal climate over the past 10 years, and tell me it’s all Obama’s fault, I would think you read a lot of propaganda emails, instead of researching actual facts… I am not in support of any politician or any government, but we have to do the best with what we have. Maybe if we wouldn’t have started a war that had no relevance to us, we would have saved how many trillions of dollars? Legalize Marijuana, tax it, regulate it like tobacco and alcohol… huge boost in economy. Hemp; medicine, fuel, clothing all grown within our country… People need to wake up and quit blaming everyone else about their problems and do something about it. Where were all the conservatives when Bush invaded our privacy and took us on a wild goose chase costing trillions of dollars. And don’t forget, we had a SURPLUS before Bush came into office. What’s the national deficit since he’s been in office? I’ll let you research that answer. Anywho, Texas can rot in it’s own stupidity for all I care. Stubborn, close-minded, prideful, greedy citizens is what I mostly see in the “wonderful” state of Taxes, I mean Texas. Just my opinion. Have a beautiful day. And yes I live in Texas. For the time being. Economy might be good, but the mentality is "shoot it, kill it, ask questions later"

04-22-2009, 12:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
super.admin YaHookan Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 37 Thanks: 4 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Absolutely not. Different approaches need to happen. I don't see succession as a new and different approach, though. Remember the "Civil" War? I think the government has had too much power for way too long, and this nonsense will not stop until something is done to reduce governmental power of it's citizens. People are afraid to speak out. I don't have the answers, I only have questions.

04-22-2009, 12:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
super.admin YaHookan Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 37 Thanks: 4 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	You really believe Texas will successfully remove itself from the USA? Never gonna happen. Successfully. Be like Waco all over the state of Texas. I'll watch from afar. Good luck.

04-22-2009, 12:58 PM	#11 (permalink)
dubtrice Old School Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 408 Thanks: 87 Thanked 55 Times in 41 Posts	haha good luck on your own texas... watch, once they split they get invaded and claimed by mexico

04-22-2009, 01:17 PM	#12 (permalink)
Kompressor Voice of Reason Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Illinois Posts: 8,361 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3,068 Times in 1,634 Posts	If you had watched the full Stewart segment, you'd see that Texans polled against it by 75%. __________________ Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought. -H. Bergson

04-22-2009, 01:28 PM	#13 (permalink)
super.admin YaHookan Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 37 Thanks: 4 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Haha. I kinda figured that... I live here and I never got a choice in the matter. Looks like ole Ricky Perry decided it himself... kinda like Bush saying "God told me to do it". Childish. Just like most people in authoritative roles, takes it on themselves to decide for the masses. But of course, now all the republicrats are on board. Weird how we never heard anything about the Bush stimulus plan that did shit. BUT! we all got money in our pocket, so that's all that matters. That's the only stimulus plan the American people understand. Me Me Me Hypocrites.

04-22-2009, 03:03 PM	#15 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,005 Thanks: 811 Thanked 1,491 Times in 946 Posts	the republic of texas makes a mean country fried steak but srsly, it's funny to my that the gov is entertaining an idea my friends and i thought would be cool in middle school. supposedly when texas became a state we had our right of secession legally documented. __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

04-22-2009, 03:08 PM	#17 (permalink)
Grieves The Worst Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Interstate 8 Posts: 12,082 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 2,562 Thanked 3,113 Times in 1,708 Posts	If you secede, the U.S. would embargo your ass in to the stone age...or slaughter all of you... __________________ "And no matter what they said dollar is not your friend and it's the feelings that are hard to know are the feelings that all come slow No matter what they said dollar is not your friend and these feelings that so hard to know are the feelings that wont let go No don't let go, till you find a home World Unite and I'll love you forever"

04-22-2009, 03:10 PM	#18 (permalink)
shelbert008 stoner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: hell on earth aka texas Posts: 1,043 Thanks: 101 Thanked 157 Times in 113 Posts	haha oh man, this shit was so funny. And my grandma came out the day he announced it and was bitching and was all upset that he threatened to secede. I just found it immensely amusing. If they actually tried to secede, I could possibly support it. But we have some crazy ass republicans down here and that could turn this little "country" into a giant shit hole. Either way though, it's just funny. __________________ one pill makes you larger, one pill makes you small, and the one that mother gives you, doesnt do anything at all Feed Your Head

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04-22-2009, 04:01 PM	#20 (permalink)
stoneric bougeman Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,644 Thanks: 703 Thanked 1,512 Times in 1,067 Posts	we're rough and we're texans with necks good and red. bye.