Manverue

Where are all the legions of Obama supporters? It seems to me all we've done is spent billions upon billions of dollars and have got nothing in return. Chrysler got billions, and is going under, so all that money was wasted. The stimulas bill or whatever you'd like to call it was billions of dollars of pork barrel spending, that got passed without any one in congress reading through the thousand + pages. Now my generation and probably the generation below me are going to be paying for it, and the end result will be the same as if we hadn't spent any money.

Maturin

At his 100 days presser, Obama admitted learning how hard it is to "change" DC. Like many others before him......

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The Rev

Actually, the big spending, money supply expansion and stimulus bill started with Bush. Obama just took that football and ran with it.

As for future generations, I wouldn't worry about them or anyone else shouldering the burden of our national debt. There won't be any national debt (or, there will be a much smaller new one) by then. It, like all great unpayable national debts before it, will be monetized and, thereby, destroyed.



The Rev

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I still feel the same way I did the day I voted, if not better. I do have confidence in his leadership, but I also didn't expect sweeping change within 100 days or within 365 days. Furthermore, the kind of 'change' people expect is pretty relative to their own personal beliefs and agendas that they impressed upon him. He's one guy and thankfully a President cannot change that much, that fast (although Bush definitely challenged that notion). 'The government' is not one person and the amount of special interests that are pulling everything in different directions, especially when it comes to the Military Industrial Complex or Wall Street, must be staggering to go up against. And we've seen what happens when a President steps on too many toes too soon.

I feel he's followed through with taking the steps towards fulfilling his campaign promises. He's wavered and augmented, but once again, if someone thought it would be any other way, that's their misconception as to how the political process works. I don't feel I have gotten 'nothing in return.' He's made tremendous strides in improving the environment (which is my #1 cause) already by repealing many Bush-era deregulations for national park land and wildlife/endangered species areas, blocked drilling and destruction in many areas and has already restored Science to a respected and supported position within the government...somethi ng that we will feel tremendous benefits from in the future. He's improved diplomatic relations with countries that during the Bush-era were on the brink of total war. On top of that, he's made significant movements towards developing a future that focuses on renewable energy rather than "drill baby, drill." What's ironic is that what I love about these decisions, I know someone else in America looks at these things he's done and feels that he's 'destroying America.' Go figure.

While torn on many parts, I was largely for the stimulus bill. I was more concerned with spending trillions in Iraq that I and my children will be paying for. I think generations below would understand footing the bill for a society based off green energy and education, rather than dropping bombs on a country that already was in ruins before we arrived.

I feel that for 100 days, I got a bargain, not a letdown, and that people are being fairly impatient to be in a hissy-fit after 100 days when they were armchair politicians the entire last 8 years. Not to say that we shouldn't be critical of some decisions or that we should simply support a decision because Obama is making it. Mistakes have been made but I feel there are genuine reasons for this, whereas with Bush I felt it was just a constant power-grab to the very end.

Interestingly enough, I'm very content with the leadership of the US and I did not expect that to happen. Obama has impressed me with his speed, dedication and multi-tasking and has given me hope that our leadership can continue to get better and better, rather than worse and worse (which many of us felt during 2007 or so).

Personally, I've witnessed an unexpected amount of change within the first 100 days and if this is any indication of what he will be like for the rest of his term, I'm very hopeful and excited for the next 1,360 days.

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Prophet Saddam

Don't get too comfortable yet - we still have a lot to do/expect.

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Grieves

Obama wasn't/isn't the answer he was/is just the path of least resistance, and a supposed break from old politics...But he and we are finding that you may be able to change the president but Washington is harder to sway...

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dubtrice

Obama is just one person

if we want to see real "change" we have to kick the corrupt shitheads in congress/Washington out and put some real, decent brains in

but by now our govt has become so messed up that there is no hope, they will continue to do what ever the hell they want and we will continue to go along with it without a choice - we, the people, are fucked in every way

zerodown

History tends to inevitably repeat itself, no matter what, so we must learn from the past, something drastic will happen in the near future and we best be prepared, soon the working class will be once again forced to arm themselves and take to the streets...

Doubt not that it will happen again and again and again throughout history, think of it this way: the world is a circus, and the circus must always have a boss, and clowns, the working class are the clowns who will one day take out the boss and keep the circus for themselves until the new clowns take it from them...

Grieves

blind leading the blind

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Being

First off - the money given to chrysler was (in part) an investment, maybe you missed that point. The US citizens own a large part of Chrysler and there will be returns from that.

Secondly, you cannot expect the world economy to just *poof!* get fixed overnight after the massive fallouts that occurred. Especially without any investment.

Keynesian economics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And, as everyone else said. Hes just one man. He can't change everything, especially with so many people trying to paint him as ineffective already. A large chunk of these people are just upset they lost the election. Basically if the counrty would actually try to work together on stuff and get it done instead of whining and complaining we would get somewhere.

Complaining is useless. Come up with actions to resolve the problem and do your best to have them implemented (other than useless unorganized protests - Teaparty ring a bell?) , or you are simply a whiner.

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Ego Tripping

What I like is that he seems like he's genuinely trying, and that makes all the difference in the world to me.

Oh, and:

Woah, flashback to '04....whatever, dude...do you have a stomach for a 'revolution'? I've asked it before...who's revolution is it, that the 'working class' will be fighting for? You mean to tell me what all working class people feel the same exact way? This isn't 1776. 20th century solutions don't work in 21st century situation.

I guess I have a short temper for negativity lately. It seems pessimists will always be around, fear mongering and doomsday prophecising to offset their own insecurities about the world, while things continue to get better and better for others around them. I think I understand it now though...you're always going to think the world is 'fucked in every way' when you just sit on the sidelines, scared, and don't do shit to change it.

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The Rev

What's the point? As soon as we fix everything, everyone will die of swine flu just as the big one hits and California sinks into the ocean. By that point, everyone will have cancer from food additives and tap water, anyway, so no one will care.



The Rev

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Ego Tripping

And PlanetX will take care of the rest?

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kameelyun

I have learned in my experience as an activist that the REAL change needs to come from the grassroots up. I must admit I was naive for a minute. For example, while it's true that Obama, during his campaign, did not support legalizing recreational cannabis, I really thought that he just MIGHT take the idea more seriously after it was the no. 1 rated idea on change.org and change.gov. I thought to myself, "President-elect Obama, the people are speaking! Please respond accordingly!!!" And when we received the huge blow-off that we did, boy was I disappointed.

I have no wish for a 1776-style revolution, I just wish that the masses really cared about "the issues" and got out into the streets to peacefully demonstrate by the thousands. Anyone remember Michael Moore's footage of French protestors in the Sicko movie? American protestors hardly ever get out by the dozens of thousands like that, on such a regular basis. No, America has that kind of passion for lining up outside Wal-Mart at 5 a.m. the day after Thanksgiving and actually knock down the doors before the store has opened, only to trample an employee to death. So in a weird way, these anti-Obama "tea parties" make me say "good for them!" even though I know that many of those people just dislike Obama in a partisan, Limbaugh-style way, not for the same reasons why I harbor skepticism towards Obama.

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al-Mu'akhkhir

armed revolution would be kickass though

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Commonlands

An armed revolution would instantly create the oppressive police state/military dictatorship that everyone seemingly wants to avoid. We're doing alright for a planet of semi-intelligent monkeys I would say. We just need to chill out a bit and not expect so much from the other monkeys that we have put in charge. Don't let the clothes fool you! Ooh ooh ah ah!

dubtrice

maybe if youre watching from up there

The Rev

Ah, shit. I totally forgot about PlanetX!



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Kat_IV

That's the thing. It's going to be hard to clean up a huge pile of crap that was left by Bush. Clinton left the country like a tall stack of blocks and Bush just came in like a big baby in diaper and knocked those blocks over. *sigh* Just like his father before him.

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Being

Its all about being upset over a lost election. Nothing else.

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