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if he were to go outside, stand somewhere were you are allowed to legally smoke tobacco, this would be a different story.

but he didn't he did it where you can't smoke tobacco or drink alcohol, especially at his age.

bad move. period.

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cantSEEme

i never heard of a high school with a legal smoking/drinking section.


and im speaking hypothetically. he should be remanded the same way as if it were alcohol and/or tobacco. but he wont be. he's gonna get screwed. its gonna follow him around for his whole life (or until he turns 18 and his juvenile record gets sealed, if he happens to only get a misdemeanor charge) and that's only because it was marijuana and not alcohol/tobacco. but yes, it was a bad move, and very irresponsible.

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stoneric

This is why what this kid did is important. If he would have lit up a cig instead of a joint this shit would have never made the news. No one here would be talking about how he fucked up his life. It illustrates the hipocrisy.

Geeno

I dont think anyone said he fucked up his life.

Schools once had smoking rooms for students and they lost popularity due to many kids smoking joints in them.

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stoneric

It was insinuated.

zerodown

From what I read the only dumb part of it was keeping more marijuana hidden(the remnants that were found by police)

What good is swallowing the joint to evade problems if you have more marijuana around? dumbass...

stoneric

How much is a remnant? Maybe when he ate it, he chewed, and got a seed stuck in between his teeth.

Guest

Lost "popularity"? You got to be kidding. I would think it would be the most popular place on campus.

Mydriasis

On the Remnant topic:

I know of a girl who got caught with a little piece of a leaf in her pocket in California and she got her first strike. If they want you fucked, they can use anything.

seattle420lover

Editor:

The story about Ian Barry, the student who lit a marijuana joint after presenting his well-written paper at his school, is a wonderful glimpse into two worlds, one reactionary and dying, and the other with the eyes on the future. While the old order reacted with fury and vindictively punished Mr. Barry with a criminal record, his courage and determined conduct has not gone unnoticed. If Mr. Barry were to present himself in my office as a applicant for almost anything, he could be assured of being hired on the spot. The vengeful and absurd "criminal" record will be no hindrance to Mr. Barry, I'm quite sure.

"Emergency expulsion," indeed. A student lights a joint and panic ensues. Cool heads were in short supply, evidently. As for Mr. Barry, it's clear that we can expect great things from him. I congratulate you on the presence of at least one courageous person in your community.

Harry Fisher

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ok, if/when weed becomes legal, its not going to be legal to:

smoke under the age of 18/21
smoke in a public building
smoke anywhere near a school/gov't building
or arrive to school/work under the influence


those are all the rules of alcohol as well, its like a 15 year old kid protesting public smoking laws by lighting a cig inside of his classroom.

its not legal even if the substance is legal. so bad move. can we be done with this now?

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seattle420lover

then maybe we will cease our efforts but not until it is as legal as lettuce is and broccoli is.
when an old farmer and stoner can plant a seed and not worry about losing it to the cops or the teeenagers.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will finally know peace".
~ Jimi Hendrix

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cantSEEme

um, ok? i understand. but what im saying is that he shouldve been remanded just like if it was alcohol or cigs. meaning, no police involvment. lets pretend it was a cig, or even a bottle of vodka. the most that wouldve happened to him is he wouldve been sent to the principals office, scolded, had parents called, and possibly suspended/expelled. but thats not what happened. he was smoking an "illegal" substance, and he was arrested. now he's fucked. end of story.

also, if you wanted to "end" this convo, you shouldnt of responded in the first place. stop getting your panties in a bunch. sheesh.

alsoalso, if you smoke weed, you yourself are a CRIMINAL!!

alsoalsoalso.... continue w/ convo, pls.

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ziplock

Appreciate the protest intent and motive was good. Planning could've used a little more thought.

All in all, I see nothing to be markedly surprised or angry about in this scenario. As far as I can tell it went exactly like it should and would go.

I think we can all take for granted that the protest of marijuana's illegal status is an admirable action. I think we all agree that marijuana shouldn't be illegal. So of course we would naturally disagree with treating it as such and the consequences of such a consideration (police involvement, federal offenses, all that bullshit).

This doesn't mean shit won't happen. In that sense, this individual (the 17 yr old) acted as a sacrificial lamb for the cause. Something to simply draw attention and controversy to an issue. We can now say "oh people are talking about this" and feel good about ourselves.

The dilemma arises when we realize that in these discussions marijuana legalization and the fine points of it are largely lost or at best a secondary issue. The primary issue is the irresponsibility of the individual. Now I, who would wish to push marijuana legalization as the primary issue, are instead left defusing the irresponsibility hand grenades that are ignorantly lobbed in my direction.

So, if the goal is to advance the agenda of marijuana legalization, fail imo. If it is to make a personal stand of protest and refuse to compromise, success. I do not stand behind him fully (as I feel smoking in such a setting should be unacceptable) but I can respect aspects of his actions.

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Guest

ziplock, you make some interesting points

What do you think Emery would think about this sort of thing?

It does seem to me this sort of thing is Emery's trademark.

cantSEEme

this act has nothing to do with marc emery

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Washington State Teen Accepts Penalty For Marijuana Speech
Ian Barry says he wasn't trying to be a martyr when he lit a marijuana joint
this week at Peninsula High School in Gig Harbor,
nor was he trying to pull a stunt. full story

Includes actual Speech: Legalize Marijuana
by Peninsula High School student Ian Barry

US HI: Column: D.A.R.E Makes Liars Out Of Students
Brislin, Mark Ka Leo O Hawaii 10 Jun 2009



Marc Emery's 'Farewell To Canada' Tour
The Prince of Pot Marc Emery is taking a final tour across Canada before
he is sent to prison in the United States for selling marijuana seeds online.