Taxing and regulating marijuana - Page 2

scottishbastard · 08-02-2009, 09:17 AM

Haha..confusing Amish with Rastas... Mushrooms+E+WEED+BEE R = me laughing thinking about Amish people AND Rastafarians.

kamikazi89 · 08-03-2009, 11:49 AM

decriminalization/deregulation:..that' s the end game

John F. Kerry · 08-03-2009, 12:23 PM

Oakland Activists Move To Legalize Pot In Calif. - cbs5.com

oakland legalizes POT!!!

and cali will in 2010!

80% of the friggen people voted yes

HURRAY SENSE HAS COME TO AMERICA!!!!

scottishbastard · 08-03-2009, 01:01 PM

It's good places have the right mind set. But jeez..What a hero that guy is. "Pushing for a tax on medical marijuana". If there's anything I agree with less than taxing marijuana in general, it's taxing marijuana for the sick.

John F. Kerry · 08-03-2009, 01:54 PM

yea i know what u mean man but the way i see it is this is the only and most likely way to get it generally accepted and adopted. it may not be the best way ever, but it convinces some people who dont just love it to start with so i guess its a good thing- it broadens the cannabis lobby

stoneric · 08-03-2009, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamikazi89

decriminalization/deregulation:..that' s the end game

That makes no sense. How does regulation become a factor on a product that isn't legal to posess? What would have to be regulated?

Xil · 08-03-2009, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamikazi89

legalization/deregulation:..that' s the end game

how about the best of both worlds?

scottishbastard · 08-03-2009, 04:37 PM

Just because it's the easiest way doesn't mean it's the way we should do it. It probably would have been easier and more acceptable to turn the slaves into indentured servants, but instead we did the harder thing and free'd them completely.

kamikazi89 · 08-04-2009, 07:25 AM

.legalization..is probably what i had in mind...first you'd have to get the government to stop classifying it as a controlled dangerous substance

as usuall i was right the first-time
locally: anything would be an improvement

stoneric · 08-04-2009, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Terry

Just out of curiosity Stoneric, what do you think the best way to go about legalization would be?

I don't have a clue. The best way won't even be considered anyway.

kitch · 08-04-2009, 10:11 AM

toleration>legalization

kamikazi89 · 08-04-2009, 11:19 AM

on the other hand hemp should be better utilized as a crop..
eventually someone's gonna have to either cut out the meat oftheir car

maybe it is we won't need as many in the future..sales have dropped considerably, if you haven't noticed

scottishbastard · 08-04-2009, 03:21 PM

The only realistic conclusion is that if we legalize marijuana it will be regulated by the government, we probably still won't be able to grow it, and it could even be treated like tobacco (i.e. only certain people can grow or sell it), and the quality will most likely go down. I don't see how with this government it could go any way. If they can't make a dollar off it, why should they do it? It's always "Well, what can we get out of it?".

cantSEEme · 08-04-2009, 03:32 PM

what? last i checked, tobacco can be grown by anyone legally. they have a shitton of sites for purchasing tobacco seeds. thats like saying you cant grow barley or hops becuase of alcohol.

scottishbastard · 08-04-2009, 09:35 PM

I believe you need a permit in most states to grow tobacco. It sounds a bit like the stamp act. And considering the new law on growing your own food, it doesn't seem like this is going to get any easier.

kamikazi89 · 08-05-2009, 12:52 AM

we've never been closer, except in the past(regess my ass)
Marijuana: Colorado Ski Town to Vote on Legalizing Marijuana Possession | Stop the Drug War (DRCNet)

Nug_King · 08-05-2009, 12:25 PM

I am a bit confused about the Canada references and shitty weed. Speaking for my Canadian friends (was there last week) and others I have talked to. You can get a lisence to grow a medi crop, up to like 100 plants.

In the States here if weed is decriminalized/legalized/whatever the cops will not waste their time on PERSONAL crops. I am not loolking to grow a cash crop (none of us should), I just want my little patch of weed to grow and seeds to trade with other local growers (which is already going on across the country BTW). To me it sounds like a lot of people want to become rich on legal weed, where I just want my personal privacy to be honored.

As for the government selling weed.....? I buy wine from friends that make it, get as much produce from local farmers markets as I can afford, and so on. If a little effort and time is spent you don't have to suck on the Govt's tit for anything but your tax return.

scottishbastard · 08-05-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nug_King

I am a bit confused about the Canada references and shitty weed. Speaking for my Canadian friends (was there last week) and others I have talked to. You can get a lisence to grow a medi crop, up to like 100 plants.

In the States here if weed is decriminalized/legalized/whatever the cops will not waste their time on PERSONAL crops. I am not loolking to grow a cash crop (none of us should), I just want my little patch of weed to grow and seeds to trade with other local growers (which is already going on across the country BTW). To me it sounds like a lot of people want to become rich on legal weed, where I just want my personal privacy to be honored.

As for the government selling weed.....? I buy wine from friends that make it, get as much produce from local farmers markets as I can afford, and so on. If a little effort and time is spent you don't have to suck on the Govt's tit for anything but your tax return.

I know Canada has since changed it's laws, but there was a few years where there were only a few select medical marijuana patients, and their only legal source was through the government. People complained that the marijuana was low quality, dry, and pre-ground into shake. I was sighting something that happened a few years back.

scottishbastard · 08-05-2009, 02:43 PM

And yes. R.I.P. Wesley Willis....Rock over London, Rock on Chicago.

Nug_King · 08-05-2009, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottishbastard

And yes. R.I.P. Wesley Willis....Rock over London, Rock on Chicago.

Thanks man, I know he'd have some interesting words for the weed debate. l
l

ol bring back the MIDI backup band!

08-02-2009, 09:17 AM	#21 (permalink)
scottishbastard ARGH! FUCK! KILL! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Castaic/Los Angeles California BITCHES! Posts: 1,956 Thanks: 32 Thanked 67 Times in 58 Posts	Haha..confusing Amish with Rastas... Mushrooms+E+WEED+BEE R = me laughing thinking about Amish people AND Rastafarians. __________________ Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do No matter what I ask of you You think you hold the high hand I've got my doubts I come from Chino where the asphalt sprouts ..... And even if I have to go to Claremont Well I guess I'll just have to go to Claremont Let me go Let me lie low Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do No matter what I ask of you And you send your dark messengers to tempt me I come from Chino so all your threats are empty - the mountain goats

08-03-2009, 01:01 PM	#24 (permalink)
scottishbastard ARGH! FUCK! KILL! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Castaic/Los Angeles California BITCHES! Posts: 1,956 Thanks: 32 Thanked 67 Times in 58 Posts	It's good places have the right mind set. But jeez..What a hero that guy is. "Pushing for a tax on medical marijuana". If there's anything I agree with less than taxing marijuana in general, it's taxing marijuana for the sick. __________________ Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do No matter what I ask of you You think you hold the high hand I've got my doubts I come from Chino where the asphalt sprouts ..... And even if I have to go to Claremont Well I guess I'll just have to go to Claremont Let me go Let me lie low Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do No matter what I ask of you And you send your dark messengers to tempt me I come from Chino so all your threats are empty - the mountain goats

08-03-2009, 04:37 PM	#28 (permalink)
scottishbastard ARGH! FUCK! KILL! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Castaic/Los Angeles California BITCHES! Posts: 1,956 Thanks: 32 Thanked 67 Times in 58 Posts	Just because it's the easiest way doesn't mean it's the way we should do it. It probably would have been easier and more acceptable to turn the slaves into indentured servants, but instead we did the harder thing and free'd them completely. __________________ Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do No matter what I ask of you You think you hold the high hand I've got my doubts I come from Chino where the asphalt sprouts ..... And even if I have to go to Claremont Well I guess I'll just have to go to Claremont Let me go Let me lie low Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do No matter what I ask of you And you send your dark messengers to tempt me I come from Chino so all your threats are empty - the mountain goats

08-04-2009, 03:21 PM	#33 (permalink)
scottishbastard ARGH! FUCK! KILL! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Castaic/Los Angeles California BITCHES! Posts: 1,956 Thanks: 32 Thanked 67 Times in 58 Posts	The only realistic conclusion is that if we legalize marijuana it will be regulated by the government, we probably still won't be able to grow it, and it could even be treated like tobacco (i.e. only certain people can grow or sell it), and the quality will most likely go down. I don't see how with this government it could go any way. If they can't make a dollar off it, why should they do it? It's always "Well, what can we get out of it?". __________________ Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do No matter what I ask of you You think you hold the high hand I've got my doubts I come from Chino where the asphalt sprouts ..... And even if I have to go to Claremont Well I guess I'll just have to go to Claremont Let me go Let me lie low Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do No matter what I ask of you And you send your dark messengers to tempt me I come from Chino so all your threats are empty - the mountain goats

08-04-2009, 03:32 PM	#34 (permalink)
cantSEEme Cold School Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,051 Thanks: 152 Thanked 127 Times in 457 Posts	what? last i checked, tobacco can be grown by anyone legally. they have a shitton of sites for purchasing tobacco seeds. thats like saying you cant grow barley or hops becuase of alcohol. __________________

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John F. Kerry Weiner-stache Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,643 Thanks: 1,772 Thanked 454 Times in 328 Posts	Oakland Activists Move To Legalize Pot In Calif. - cbs5.com oakland legalizes POT!!! and cali will in 2010! 80% of the friggen people voted yes HURRAY SENSE HAS COME TO AMERICA!!!!

08-03-2009, 01:54 PM	#25 (permalink)
John F. Kerry Weiner-stache Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,643 Thanks: 1,772 Thanked 454 Times in 328 Posts	yea i know what u mean man but the way i see it is this is the only and most likely way to get it generally accepted and adopted. it may not be the best way ever, but it convinces some people who dont just love it to start with so i guess its a good thing- it broadens the cannabis lobby

08-04-2009, 09:35 PM	#35 (permalink)
scottishbastard ARGH! FUCK! KILL! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Castaic/Los Angeles California BITCHES! Posts: 1,956 Thanks: 32 Thanked 67 Times in 58 Posts	I believe you need a permit in most states to grow tobacco. It sounds a bit like the stamp act. And considering the new law on growing your own food, it doesn't seem like this is going to get any easier. __________________ Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do No matter what I ask of you You think you hold the high hand I've got my doubts I come from Chino where the asphalt sprouts ..... And even if I have to go to Claremont Well I guess I'll just have to go to Claremont Let me go Let me lie low Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do No matter what I ask of you And you send your dark messengers to tempt me I come from Chino so all your threats are empty - the mountain goats

08-05-2009, 12:25 PM	#37 (permalink)
Nug_King RIP Wesley Willis Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Ct Posts: 327 Thanks: 25 Thanked 31 Times in 19 Posts	I am a bit confused about the Canada references and shitty weed. Speaking for my Canadian friends (was there last week) and others I have talked to. You can get a lisence to grow a medi crop, up to like 100 plants. In the States here if weed is decriminalized/legalized/whatever the cops will not waste their time on PERSONAL crops. I am not loolking to grow a cash crop (none of us should), I just want my little patch of weed to grow and seeds to trade with other local growers (which is already going on across the country BTW). To me it sounds like a lot of people want to become rich on legal weed, where I just want my personal privacy to be honored. As for the government selling weed.....? I buy wine from friends that make it, get as much produce from local farmers markets as I can afford, and so on. If a little effort and time is spent you don't have to suck on the Govt's tit for anything but your tax return. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------- NASA found out in the beginnings of the space program that pens would not work in space. SO NASA spent millions of dollars and a good year and a half developing a pen that does not need gravity to draw the ink down. The Russians just brought pencils...

08-05-2009, 02:43 PM	#39 (permalink)
scottishbastard ARGH! FUCK! KILL! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Castaic/Los Angeles California BITCHES! Posts: 1,956 Thanks: 32 Thanked 67 Times in 58 Posts	And yes. R.I.P. Wesley Willis....Rock over London, Rock on Chicago. __________________ Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do No matter what I ask of you You think you hold the high hand I've got my doubts I come from Chino where the asphalt sprouts ..... And even if I have to go to Claremont Well I guess I'll just have to go to Claremont Let me go Let me lie low Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do No matter what I ask of you And you send your dark messengers to tempt me I come from Chino so all your threats are empty - the mountain goats

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