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Old 08-27-2009, 05:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Wake Up America

Wake up America !!!


by Pam Geller

I am a student of history. Professionally, I have written 15 books in six languages, and have studied history all my life. I think there is something monumentally large afoot, and I do not believe it is just a banking crisis, or a mortgage crisis, or a credit crisis. Yes, these exist but they are merely single facets on a very large gemstone that is only now coming into a sharper focus.

Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it because I know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people react to it.. Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something happening within our country that has been evolving for about 10 - 15 years. The pace has dramatically quickened in the past two.

We demanded and then codified into law the requirement that our banks make massive loans to people whom we knew could never pay back? Why? We learned recently that the Federal Reserve, which has little or no real oversight by anyone, has "loaned" two trillion dollars (that is $2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell us to whom or why or disclose the terms. That is our money. Yours and mine. And that is three times the $700B we all argued about so strenuously just this past September.

Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are the terms unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I thought this was a government of "We the People," who loaned our powers to our elected leaders.. Apparently not.

We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our economy. Why?

We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our history, and no longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and why we are worth preserving. Students by and large cannot write, think critically, read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not picketing, school boards continue to back mediocrity.. Why?

We have now established the precedent of protesting every close election (now violently in California over a proposition that is so controversial that it wants marriage to remain between one man and one woman. Did you ever think such a thing possible just a decade ago?). We have corrupted our sacred political process by allowing unelected judges to write laws that radically change our way of life, and then mainstream Marxist groups like ACORN and others to turn our voting system into a banana republic. To what purpose?

Now our mortgage industry is collapsing, housing prices are in free fall, major industries are failing, our banking system is on the verge of collapse, Social Security is nearly bankrupt, as is Medicare and our entire government. Our education system is worse than a joke (I teach college and know precisely what I am talking about.) The list is staggering in its length, breadth, and depth. It is potentially 1929 x 10. And we are at war with an enemy we cannot name for fear of offending people of the same religion who cannot wait to slit the throats of your children if they have the opportunity to do so.

And now we have elected a man no one knows anything about, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as big as Wasilla , Alaska .. All of his associations and alliances are with real radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything we learn about him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary (Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh, of course. The media would never play that for you over and over and then demand he answer it. Sarah Palin's pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe is more important.)

Mr. Obama's winning platform can be boiled down to one word: Change...radical change Why?

I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children as I am now. This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he has never, ever done in his professional life. In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed coming And when it comes, you will never see the same nation again.

And that is only the beginning.

I thought I would never be able to experience what the ordinary, moral German felt in the mid-1930s. In those times, the savior was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser from the streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing. What they did know was that he was associated with groups that shouted, shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he edged his way onto the political stage through great oratory and promises. Economic times were tough, people were losing jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and waved a lot. And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear that his "brown shirts" would bully them into submission.

And then he was duly elected to office, with a full-throttled economic crisis at hand [the Great Depression]. Slowly but surely he seized the controls of government power, department by department, person by person, bureaucracy by bureaucracy. The kids joined a Youth Movement in his name, where they were taught what to think. How did he get the people on his side? He did it promising jobs to the jobless, money to the moneyless, and goodies for the military-industrial complex. He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country, across Europe , and across the world.

He did it with a compliant media - Did you know that? And he did this all in the name of justice and...change. And the people surely got what they voted for. (Look it up if you think I am exaggerating.) Read your history books. Many people objected in 1933 and were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and made fun of. When Winston Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated in the House of Lords in England (he was not yet Prime Minister), he was booed into his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though.

Don't forget that Germany was the most educated, cultured country in Europe . It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals, laboratories, and universities. And in less than six years - a shorter time span than just two terms of the U. S.. presidency - it was rounding up its own citizens, killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against parents, and neighbors against neighbors. All with the best of intentions, of course. The road to Hell is paved with them.

As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional decisions, I have a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of evidence tell me (even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can believe what history is shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades; or I can hope I am wrong, close my eyes, have another latte and ignore what is transpiring around me.

Some people scoff at me; others laugh or think I am foolish, naive, or both. Perhaps I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in the eye and tell them exactly what I believe - and why I believe it. I pray I am wrong. But, I do not think I am.

About the author via Google...

Pamela "Atlas" Geller began her publishing career at The New York Daily News and subsequently took over operation of The New York Observer as Associate Publisher. She left The Observer after the birth of her fourth child, but remained involved in various projects including American Associates, Ben Gurion University and being Senior Vice-President Strategic Planning and Performance Evaluation at The Brandeis School.

After 9/11, Atlas had the veil of oblivion violently lifted from her consciousness and immersed herself in the education and understanding of geopolitics, Islam, terror, foreign affairs and imminent threats the mainstream media and the government wouldn't cover or discuss.
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She says we're at war with an enemy we can't name for fear of offending others of the same religon and who would slit the throats of our children if they had a chance and I'm not supposed to think she's a nutjob?
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Good read. I would agree that we need to be careful of the ways that our government tries to control and protect its own. And while all of Geller's ideas are true and interesting, there is one key part she left out.

We remember the Holocaust, 1930's Germans or anyone for that matter did(could) not. Having smart people like Geller reminding us about history, and relating it to current events is the best tool a person has in making decisions.

I'd be interested to see if she wrote anything more in depth about the issues in the first half of the article.
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Umm....wow.

Comparing Obama to Hitler... again?

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We demanded and then codified into law the requirement that our banks make massive loans to people whom e knew could never pay back? Why? We learned recently that the Federal Reserve, which has little or no real oversight by anyone, has "loaned" two trillion dollars (that is $2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell us to whom or why or disclose the terms. That is our money. Yours and mine. And that is three times the $700B we all argued about so strenuously just this past September.
To really think that Obama himself could have just made this not happen....

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he System derives its authority and public purpose from the Federal Reserve Act passed by Congress in 1913. As an independent institution, the Federal Reserve System has the authority to act on its own without prior approval from Congress or the President.
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We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our history, and no longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and why we are worth preserving. Students by and large cannot write, think critically, read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not picketing, school boards continue to back mediocrity.. Why?
ahhh its a conspiracy!!! ahhhh!!!

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And we are at war with an enemy we cannot name for fear of offending people of the same religion who cannot wait to slit the throats of your children if they have the opportunity to do so.
That is just ignorant. Really killing the article with these conspiracy theories and sensationalist statements trying to get a reaction.

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And now we have elected a man no one knows anything about, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as big as Wasilla , Alaska ..
Do we have a die hard Palin follower here? add them to the list.
I mean jesus, she couldn't even stay in office her full term.
Being in a state senate from 1997 to 2004. U.S. Senator from 2005–2008. Completely unknown... yeah.

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What they did know was that he was associated with groups that shouted, shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed;
like the GOP/health insurance company pawns? like the teaparty fools? (both groups were provoked and led to believe lies by either GOP who wants to gain political ground, or companies who want to gain financial ground)


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He did it promising jobs to the jobless, money to the moneyless, and goodies for the military-industrial complex. He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country, across Europe , and across the world.
you mean what most all politicians do? pretty much the definition of being a politician.

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yeah, Obama obviously does not. Faux News.... obviously not compliant, they are willing to do anything (including fabricating and pushing lies) to bring down the Dems.

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Many people objected in 1933 and were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and made fun of
Again, the town hall crazies are doing this... ya know, GOP 'goons'. claiming racism, calling any dem names, pretty much exactly what is being described now.



Its sad because the article started off a very good statistic, and I got excited. it turned to absolute shit and that disappoints me.
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I liked this paragraph, this should be expanded on, not the other radical sensationalist, conspiracy theory shit.
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I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children as I am now. This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he has never, ever done in his professional life. In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed coming And when it comes, you will never see the same nation again.

And that is only the beginning.
Unmitigated bs. I never listen to a perspective that starts off this way. Fear, fear, more fear.

How she any different than any other fear monger? Just because she thinks she's righteous and thinks she understands what is happening? So useless.

I'm so tired of this 'wake up America' cliche'. Its only used by an individual who does not agree with the general direction of the country. It abounded on bumper stickers when Bush was President. Now suddenly it's waking up from Obama? Wtf?

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Some people scoff at me; others laugh or think I am foolish, naive, or both. Perhaps I am.
Uh, yeah...and on top of that, scared to the degree where your judgements have been clouded. Fear never breeds clarity or objective perspective, ever.

When all else fails, of course, pull the Hitler card! That'll make any person sound educated, right?

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Ok, Mrs. Decider. You know, she reminds me of a previous historical figure that used that almost identical mindset when looking for WMD in Iraq...

4nik8, you must be tired from shaking in your boots all day.
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Do we have a die hard Palin follower here? add them to the list.
I mean jesus, she couldn't even stay in office her full term.
Being in a state senate from 1997 to 2004. U.S. Senator from 2005–2008. Completely unknown... yeah.
No shit. This guy actually worked directly with the people he would be working with as President when passing anything through the senate and congress, yet he's "inexperienced?"

Yeah, I think 4nik8 is showing is real colors now. And I'm guessing they are white and wrinkled.
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as of now, my life is almost the same as when I was born.

My standard of living hasn't changed, my potential education is unlimited.

Until shit really does turn upside down, I will continue to smoke my weed semi-legally.
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I do love the thought of conspiracies though. I have no idea who is really in charge, I have no idea what the fuck the president does on day-day basis and I don't really care.

There's a line that Michael Franti says in one of his songs that I practically live by.
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republicans piss me off with their "Socialism" propaganda

they dont know wtf they re talking about

GWB and his party fucked up america (and the middle east) in SO MANY WAYS in the last 8 years and now all of a sudden Obama (who wants reform) is the bad guy...

whatever nazis

it will take 20 years to fix what Bush destroyed

now suck it and let a good and smart man, take america to another level
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I love when the Daily Show plays clips of OReilly or Beck or any of their other talking heads say something in Obama's administration (like...poeple who disrupt town halls are fulfilling their civic duty to be heard!) and then seeing a clip of them from Bush's administration (like...people who disrupt town halls are loons and a disgrace to America).

The hypocrisy is astounding. And this woman is no different.
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Well, just take solace in the fact that it's not working. Obama won by the majority, he still has the majority's approval and the majority of the house/senate supports change on some kind of level. As he said on election night, 'change has come to America.' People like this woman (and 4nik8, who obviously shares her sentiment) are just running to catch up. If they aren't trying to catch up, they are petrified to the core with fear, trying to scare everyone else with Hitler comparisons and accusations of Socialism/Communism.

Of course, Obama is just an inexperienced puppet...uhh....who' s a tyranical dictator possible antichrist Hitler-esque figure....who is a Socialist trying to redistribute wealth to the poor....who's also a Muslim terrorist bent on destroying America from the inside out. But he also has no experience in these matters and is just a smooth talker trying to take the money and run. And uh....is going to rule us all with his charismatic inexperience....

These people don't even know what to fear anymore.

Once again, they are the minority...just a loud, scared, immature and angry minority. They aren't doing anything besides throwing a tantrum about the fact that a black guy named Barack Hussein Obama won the White House who wants to actually focus on domestic policy again. This was to be expected from people with conservative and religious roots. I say, let them fade into the background and let the new generation actually do something other than start another war.
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And I'd love to send this video to the writer of that article.

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Jesus Christ, kid.

Calm down.
The ONLY thing I typed about this article was..and I quote... "Thoughts on this?"

Originally I thought the article was hilarious. That, however, has been eclipsed by the fumbling, fervent posts I've seen trying to negate the original piece.

Priceless and... I guess I ought to go ahead and admit... exactly the type of response I expected.
Nothing of substance to show, in any way, how this authors views, as skewed as they are, were invalid.

Next time, instead of trying to categorize me from an article posted, you should address what I say on a subject.
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Originally I thought the article was hilarious. That, however, has been eclipsed by the fumbling, fervent posts I've seen trying to negate the original piece.

Priceless and... I guess I ought to go ahead and admit... exactly the type of response I expected.
Nothing of substance to show, in any way, how this authors views, as skewed as they are, were invalid.
lol, man. you are just one crazy person. you're always above everyone else huh?

I provided multiple facts, which is substance, so tyvm, and nice job being a hypocrite. (where is your substance? just baiting people responses and asking for thoughts...)

I tryed reading it with an open mind, but I found it as ridiculous as you did and pointed out why I thought so, with a few facts provided.
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Nothing of substance to show, in any way, how this authors views, as skewed as they are, were invalid.
Was this a test? She's skewed, but since no one figured out why, she's valid.
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No shit. I really don't think you think it's that hilarious, since you've posted other threads that echo similar sentiments.
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Ain't these fear mongers who years later we think back and say "oh he was right"?
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Ain't these fear mongers who years later we think back and say "oh he was right"?
Just like Bush being declared dictator, martial law imposed and FEMA camps for the lot of us. From recent history, it's actually us looking back and saying "Oh, we overreacted."
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Still, if someone had suggested that we'd have a patriot act 20 years ago we'd probably had thought that person to be a nutjob. I'm not saying let fear rule but there is reason to be vigilant against such bullshit.
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