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Ego Tripping · 10-03-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wellfleation

But I do agree that technology will also be used to equally combat such abuses as mentioned. There is an app called Trapster that is using the iPhones GPS and locates police traps in real time, warns you of camera lights, etc. I think it was the Chief of Police in DC that was quoted as being pissed about the app. Why would she be upset? The real goal of police and laws are supposed to be for public safety, and such an app would cause you to slow down and be more cautious which is good, right? But that is obviously not the Chief's goal. The goal is not about public safety but simply wants the revenue from the citations issued.

Fuck the police (except two of my friends).

Well, I think you might be extrapolating this. While I agree they definitely tend to gouge (especially during a recession), I could also see people using this technology for subversive or malicious purposes, as well. That pesky gray area persists....

zerodown · 10-03-2009, 07:25 PM

your pesky gray area persists, should have it checked, might be cancerous.

Roach · 10-03-2009, 08:32 PM

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Welcome to Police State America

Welcome to the new world order baby.

You ain't seen nothing yet.

p.s.

I've already written enough on the subject...but 4000 police, SWAT, Secret service, and military for less than 1000 protestors is fucking overkill no matter how you shake it.

Roach · 10-03-2009, 08:36 PM

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the gov could basically shut down and control the internet.

patriot act 2 allows this.

already a done deal.

al-Mu'akhkhir · 10-03-2009, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mookie

patriot act 2 allows this.

already a done deal.

lol yeah I posted about that months ago.

flappy · 10-04-2009, 12:08 AM

It's always about the eternal left - right sucker play with some of you guys

YouTube - The False Left Right Paradigm - From the Obama Deception

wellfleation · 10-04-2009, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Ego Tripping

Well, I think you might be extrapolating this. While I agree they definitely tend to gouge (especially during a recession), I could also see people using this technology for subversive or malicious purposes, as well. That pesky gray area persists....

And I could get in my car and drive 100 miles an hour. The technology is there to govern the speed but car makers do no (some up to say 130mph). Someone can by a gun and do whatever. I don't get your point?

wellfleation · 10-04-2009, 08:25 AM

The whole purpose of speed traps is for safety, so people slow down, supposedly. To re-enforce this, there are some places that report to there local newspapers when they will be conducting speed traps.

Ego Tripping · 10-04-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wellfleation

And I could get in my car and drive 100 miles an hour. The technology is there to govern the speed but car makers do no (some up to say 130mph). Someone can by a gun and do whatever. I don't get your point?

Well, I really don't get yours either, so cheers.

kameelyun · 10-04-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ego Tripping

YouTube does not make you smart, correct or validated.

With all due respect Ego, that was a lame response. As lame as 100 years ago saying "Books do not make you smart, correct or validated."

But doesn't virtually every school on the planet emphasize the importance of reading, as a means of becoming more informed?

There are good books and bad books. Same with YouTube videos. Yes there is alot of garbage on the internet, just like for eons there have been garbage books. Youtube, and the internet in general, are a true global people's revolution of information and the exchange of ideas and world views.

Honestly, your dismissive response reminds me of the way "9/11 Conspiracy Debunkers" over at the Screw Loose Change blog like to simply dismiss YouTube as a legit medium as a way of handwaving away the very legit information contained in those youtube videos.

Address the content of what is in the video. (And for the record, "Endgame" is my least favorite AJ film because it focuses purely on what HE thinks the world is GOING to become. I think he reached his peak with "Terrorstorm," which deals purely with HISTORICAL FACT; if that had been the only film he ever made, one could certainly not dismiss him as a paranoid quack.)

Ego Tripping · 10-04-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kameelyun

With all due respect Ego, that was a lame response. As lame as 100 years ago saying "Books do not make you smart, correct or validated."

But doesn't virtually every school on the planet emphasize the importance of reading, as a means of becoming more informed?

There are good books and bad books. Same with YouTube videos. Yes there is alot of garbage on the internet, just like for eons there have been garbage books. Youtube, and the internet in general, are a true global people's revolution of information and the exchange of ideas and world views.

Honestly, your dismissive response reminds me of the way "9/11 Conspiracy Debunkers" over at the Screw Loose Change blog like to simply dismiss YouTube as a legit medium as a way of handwaving away the very legit information contained in those youtube videos.

Right...are you done with that soapbox now? Thanks.

My post had nothing to do with the credibility of YouTube, but moreso of Flappy's reliance on it to make any kind of point...that's it. But thanks for the lecture.

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Address the content of what is in the video. (And for the record, "Endgame" is my least favorite AJ film because it focuses purely on what HE thinks the world is GOING to become.

Umm....exactly my point?

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I think he reached his peak with "Terrorstorm," which deals purely with HISTORICAL FACT;

Purely? Granted, it has its roots within our history but to say AJ didn't stretch some truths to fit them into his documentary is a bit fallacious I feel.

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if that had been the only film he ever made, one could certainly not dismiss him as a paranoid quack.)

But it wasn't and by this point, I can't help but feel he's off the deep end by now.

zerodown · 10-04-2009, 07:34 PM

You can't change a mind that has already been set on certain beliefs simply by showing them evidence, that is why its so sad.

Thats why one of my favorite sayings is: The best slave is the one who thinks himself free.

flappy · 10-04-2009, 07:47 PM

Zero is right, we will never change a mind here or anywhere. However one can be awakened in a moment , when all things seem to fall together. As far as the Alex Jones tape (left right paradigm) I think it is unsophisticated and I would have done it better. But sophistication can be used (even by the few Yahookan Snobs) as a means to suppess, to dismiss one's opinion as worthless.

For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationali sts’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." -David Rockefeller, from his own book, Memoirs.

flappy · 10-04-2009, 07:52 PM

Zero is right, we will never change a mind here or anywhere. However one can be awakened in a moment , when all things seem to fall together. As far as the Alex Jones tape (left right paradigm) I think it is unsophisticated and I would have done it better. But sophistication can be used (even by the few Yahookan Snobs) as a means to suppess, to dismiss one's opinion as worthless.

For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." -David Rockefeller, from his own book, Memoirs.

Ego Tripping · 10-04-2009, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by flappy

Zero is right, we will never change a mind here or anywhere.

Pretty arrogant to think you could and self righteous to think you should.

And if that's what you came here to do, then it's your mind that needs to be freed, not someone else's.

verklingen · 10-05-2009, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by zerodown

You can't change a mind that has already been set on certain beliefs simply by showing them evidence, that is why its so sad.

Thats why one of my favorite sayings is: The best slave is the one who thinks himself free.

no, the best is one who believes with all his heart that he's a slave but won't do a damn thing about it: he keeps other slaves in line by making lunacy the alternative to a regular life. if we have a slave/police state, alex jones plays prima donna

zerodown · 10-05-2009, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by verklingen

no, the best is one who believes with all his heart that he's a slave but won't do a damn thing about it: he keeps other slaves in line by making lunacy the alternative to a regular life. if we have a slave/police state, alex jones plays prima donna

Thank you for proving my point.

verklingen · 10-05-2009, 08:45 AM

likewise, champ

Ego Tripping · 10-05-2009, 09:20 AM

Geeze Zerodown, I would think with all the time and thought you have invested in knowing so much about the coming inevitable enslavement of the US and possibly the world, you could be organizing a revolution to fight back against it.

But wait...let me guess...you have a job to go to? Rent to pay? Just too damn scared and lazy? Or perhaps you just are another YouTube armchair patriot?

I'm interested to hear.

flappy · 10-05-2009, 10:58 AM

alterEgo and Verk (one and the same)...always popping out to disrespect and insult anyone with a different point of view. I'm going to cry, in fact, I'll cry all day for these motherfuckers.

"I don't really remember where I was. I remember incidents throughout the day, but not really "where I was." I remember crying a lot that day." (Ego{Mr.Sensitive}Tr ipp).

10-03-2009, 07:25 PM	#102 (permalink)
zerodown Mafutero Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: PR Posts: 784 Thanks: 38 Thanked 168 Times in 131 Posts	your pesky gray area persists, should have it checked, might be cancerous. __________________ "I've seen people so poor all they got is money." We have to learn to unlearn Its not contradiction, its amendment Not everything we see is reality Not everything we hear is the truth Not everything we're taught helps us grow ~Cultura Profetica "La locura se lleva en la cabeza y las drogas en los bolsillos" ~Roberto Iniesta

10-04-2009, 08:25 AM	#108 (permalink)
wellfleation Old School Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Methuen, MASSHOLE Posts: 3,520 Thanks: 149 Thanked 467 Times in 333 Posts	The whole purpose of speed traps is for safety, so people slow down, supposedly. To re-enforce this, there are some places that report to there local newspapers when they will be conducting speed traps. __________________ FIGHTPOWER

10-04-2009, 07:34 PM	#112 (permalink)
zerodown Mafutero Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: PR Posts: 784 Thanks: 38 Thanked 168 Times in 131 Posts	You can't change a mind that has already been set on certain beliefs simply by showing them evidence, that is why its so sad. Thats why one of my favorite sayings is: The best slave is the one who thinks himself free. __________________ "I've seen people so poor all they got is money." We have to learn to unlearn Its not contradiction, its amendment Not everything we see is reality Not everything we hear is the truth Not everything we're taught helps us grow ~Cultura Profetica "La locura se lleva en la cabeza y las drogas en los bolsillos" ~Roberto Iniesta

10-04-2009, 07:47 PM	#113 (permalink)
flappy YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 807 Thanks: 48 Thanked 102 Times in 85 Posts	Zero is right, we will never change a mind here or anywhere. However one can be awakened in a moment , when all things seem to fall together. As far as the Alex Jones tape (left right paradigm) I think it is unsophisticated and I would have done it better. But sophistication can be used (even by the few Yahookan Snobs) as a means to suppess, to dismiss one's opinion as worthless. For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationali sts’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." -David Rockefeller, from his own book, Memoirs. __________________ <> <><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><> <>

10-04-2009, 07:52 PM	#114 (permalink)
flappy YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 807 Thanks: 48 Thanked 102 Times in 85 Posts	Zero is right, we will never change a mind here or anywhere. However one can be awakened in a moment , when all things seem to fall together. As far as the Alex Jones tape (left right paradigm) I think it is unsophisticated and I would have done it better. But sophistication can be used (even by the few Yahookan Snobs) as a means to suppess, to dismiss one's opinion as worthless. For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." -David Rockefeller, from his own book, Memoirs. __________________ <> <><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><> <>

10-05-2009, 08:45 AM	#118 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	likewise, champ __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

10-05-2009, 09:20 AM	#119 (permalink)
Ego Tripping Are you in? Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,461 Thanks: 229 Thanked 657 Times in 438 Posts	Geeze Zerodown, I would think with all the time and thought you have invested in knowing so much about the coming inevitable enslavement of the US and possibly the world, you could be organizing a revolution to fight back against it. But wait...let me guess...you have a job to go to? Rent to pay? Just too damn scared and lazy? Or perhaps you just are another YouTube armchair patriot? I'm interested to hear. __________________ God appears, and God is light, To those poor souls who dwell in night; But does a human form display To those who dwell in realms of day. Last edited by Ego Tripping; 10-05-2009 at 12:16 PM.

10-05-2009, 10:58 AM	#120 (permalink)
flappy YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 807 Thanks: 48 Thanked 102 Times in 85 Posts	alterEgo and Verk (one and the same)...always popping out to disrespect and insult anyone with a different point of view. I'm going to cry, in fact, I'll cry all day for these motherfuckers. "I don't really remember where I was. I remember incidents throughout the day, but not really "where I was." I remember crying a lot that day." (Ego{Mr.Sensitive}Tr ipp). __________________ <> <><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><> <>

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