flappy

How come the Jews don't allow inspections?

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verklingen

only people who don't have the bomb yet need to worry about inspections i guess

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Bad dog

We don't need to because we invented the bloody thing.
It is a Jewish bomb. It was a majority of Jewish scientists working on the Manahatten Project the gave the world it's first look at an atomic explosion.

If Hitler had embraced the Jews rather than killing them, he would have had the Bomb by 1944 and you my friend would be speaking german and attending your Hitler youth meetings.

Einstien came over here in the '50's and started the project off.

Look, Israel is a western democratic country that has stated time and time again that "if we did actually possess nuclear weapons, and we won't officially admit that we do, they are purely a weapon of last resort if it looks like we may actually get over run by hostile arabic armies.

We are a paraniod people and have a fairly legitimate reason to be so.

Do you really think that Israel would use a nuclear bomb or sell one to terrorists or allow to have one stolen by terrorists?

Iran is a far more unstable country with vast social problems.
Don't you realise that your average Iranian should actually be richer than an american?

Iran is a revolutionary country, fresh from revolution, they are just not stable enough to play with the big toys. IMO.

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stoneric

So when benny morris advocates the use of nukes on Iran, that is just a last resort?

Israel has far superior military might without nukes. Why not have a nuke free region?

John F. Kerry

becasue no israeli leader- let alone the supposedly "elected" leader of their country, has ever said they would use their nukes to wipe another nation off the map.

i know some of u guys are like oh its the wipe off the map thing again.


i wonder if u people would have been the ones to say oh all hitler wants is the rhineland, cmon its just the rhineland, im sure once he has that he'll be cool, even tho he has been screaming about the evil bastard jews and how he wants to kill them all- hell probably just chillout after he gets the rhineland.

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John F. Kerry

do u really believe that if israel was 100% sure they would never need to use nukes to defend themselves, or possibly be put under the us nuclear umbrella just in case, that if they really believed there was NO THREAT of nuclear attack against them- that they wouldnt give up their bomb? or at least give up like 99% of them?

i think they would,

but the world you describe simply doesnt exist today

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Bad dog

and who the fuck is benny morris?
is he a member of the Knesset?
does he dictate national policy?

if there was going to be a nuke free world, then we would also give them up.

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Makros_01

"Ahh, now I understand the real problem. You are an Australian."
~Bad 'jews are better than everyone' Dog

YOU RACIST FUCK.
i am aware of the shame in this country and its past and even current policy regarding native ozys as well as 'illegal' immigrants. I also know our country unreservedly appologised at the beginning of last year.
But here's the thing. I wasn't being racist. I was/am concerned with the way Israel conducts itself. But it concerns me the way China conducts itself too, that doesnt make me an asian hater. Even if some of my countrymen ARE!
I think you've proven here how foolish and racist some Israelis can become when their bretherins actions are questioned. You think you invented the bomb bacuase there were many Jewish scientists on the job. Ok fine.
Well on that logic, everytime there's a plane accident, you all better come over here to Australia to ask permission; see if you're alowed to retrieve our wonderful invention the BLACK BOX F.R.?
Or maybe America better pay tribute to the USSR and its child and father Russia every time they go to space?

You'll find my country doesn't lock up and prevent the movements of Aboriginals either. They may worship where they wish. They may go overseas without any more dramas than any other person living within the military jurisdiction of Australia. We don't fence off thier homelands from access to their religious sites, or from anywhere for that matter.
And here's the kicker! You'll love this bad dog. We don't occupy those tribal lands they have been granted! We dont shoot their children. We dont blockade food supplies. We don't restrict access to their communities by foreign media. And we dont hold clandestine nuclear arsenals 'in case' we need to be a sore loser if we lost a war with them. you know, the 'if i cant have it no one can' theory of children

thats what you mean by needing the weapon in case of being overrun isnt it? if you cant have it. no one can.
thats almost as dangerous as 'with us or against us'

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stoneric

Influential people help dictate policy. I'm sure Iran would give up the idea of having them if it were a nuke free world.

stoneric

But only israel can have nukes in the region even if other countries don't feel 100% sure they won't need to use nukes to defend themselves? Especially a country surrounded by a superpower that has threatened them in the past with nuclear bunker busters.

What would be the point of giving up 99% of them?

What world am I describing?

Bad dog

In your first point you are equating the importance of the 'black box' to the importance of a nuclear bomb.

This obviously an idiotic equation.

In your second point the equation of how Australia treats the Aboriginies with how Israel treats the Palestinians.

There is a slight difference in the two cases in that the Aboriginies gave up and stopped fighting over 100 years ago. If they became hostile I am sure that Australia would take extremely harsh measures. Remember that the Tasmanian Aboriginies were completely exterminated in a genocide when they resisted.

Your third point that you were granted the tribal lands (by turning the locals into alcoholics and tricking them to let you mine there) is a poor point.
The Jews bought most of the land from the Arab owners at extremely high prices. Who's claim is more legitimate?

Your fourth point about the nuclear weapons, again you show your biased ignorance.
Australia is a Nuclear capable country. You may not actually have a bomb, but you have all of the expertese to knock one up in a few weeks if you should so desire to do so. (along with Canada and South Africa and a few others).


You must remember that it's not your fault that you are an idiot. You are just an Australian.
Your brain is suffering from 'Alcoholic dementia', which is a caused by long term dehydration of the brain.
This happens from drinking beer all day long in a hot climate.

Your opinions are as irrelivent as your boring country.

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flappy

First of all, I'm glad Badog admits to his Zionist roots. Did you come from NY or Europe ? I doubt if your family was there since Moses. However, Shalom,most persecuted one.
I'll send you some real history of your chosen country later, since you are a little lacking in that department. Einstein did not leave Germany in the 50's. You are another casualty of the American school system.

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Bad dog

who said anything about germany?
he visited from the states (where he lived from before the war, he was Austrian anyway).

Einstien was the first President of the Hebrew University and was offered The Presidency of the country, but refused.

My family was here in the time of moses and then for another 1500 years before being exiled to Spain and then Poland. Although there are a few Jewish families that have actually been here since the very beginning.

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Waves

lol of the day-

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad revealed to have Jewish past - Telegraph

A photograph of the Iranian president holding up his identity card during elections in March 2008 clearly shows his family has Jewish roots.

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flappy

' Einstien came over here in the '50's and started the project off."

Sorry, but where did he stay from the 30's to the 50's ?

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hey terry , we agree(d) , did u change or did i?

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