Barack Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize - Page 2

Mydriasis · 10-09-2009, 03:26 PM

Wow I would have to say this is a complete oxymoron. Our nation is still at fucking war?

I know of more peaceful people than the leader of the US. I mean shit didn't he call a musician a jack-ass?

I wonder who you have to pay or know to get a nobel these days.

cantSEEme · 10-09-2009, 03:33 PM

i just took a dump but decided against flushing.

environmental reasons.

hope i get nominated.

Grieves · 10-09-2009, 03:38 PM

"Unlike the other Nobel Prizes, which recognize completed scientific or literary accomplishment, the Nobel Peace Prize may be awarded to persons or organizations that are in the process of resolving a conflict or creating peace. The laureates criteria have later been expanded beyond peace mediation to include efforts to combat poverty, disease and climate change."

Maybe the committee knows of something that is yet to pass..

Ego Tripping · 10-09-2009, 03:39 PM

Obama can't get a break. Doesn't seem to matter what happens, it seems it makes his job all that much harder.

His own words are decent enough though:

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"I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many transformative figures that have been honored by this prize,"

People like that guy Kamee posted need to relax before busting a vein. It's not like he's bragging.

verklingen · 10-09-2009, 03:44 PM

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According to Nobel's will, the Peace Prize should be awarded "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations,

obama has stringently supported fair diplomacy (evidenced recently by the multilateral talks with iran [hell, he even opposed sanctions]) and has already made decisions which move toward ending long-standing international enmity (shelving the czech/polish missile defense deal)

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for the abolition or reduction of standing armies

obama continually pushes for an end to nuclear arms proliferation and reduction of current nuclear arsenals

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and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."

the multilateral talks (which i feel will only become more common) that have taken place and which in previous years seemed doomed for good are the most solid evidence that obama meets this criterion, in which agreements have actually been reached.

the bottom line is anyone who has something against our president is going to react harshly to his receiving the nobel peace prize. i agree that it's most definitely a bit premature, but i still maintain that it was awarded in hopes of pushing him to further accomplishments toward peace on the world stage. because really. . . he's the one guy in the whole world who needs the most support/reassurance. his is a truly gargantuan task

Ego Tripping · 10-09-2009, 03:47 PM

It seems lately that people would rather see their personal worldview and predictions be justified than have any kind of success in that task, though.

stoneric · 10-09-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by verklingen

obama has stringently supported fair diplomacy (evidenced recently by the multilateral talks with iran [hell, he even opposed sanctions]) and has already made decisions which move toward ending long-standing international enmity (shelving the czech/polish missile defense deal)

obama continually pushes for an end to nuclear arms proliferation and reduction of current nuclear arsenals

the multilateral talks (which i feel will only become more common) that have taken place and which in previous years seemed doomed for good are the most solid evidence that obama meets this criterion, in which agreements have actually been reached.

the bottom line is anyone who has something against our president is going to react harshly to his receiving the nobel peace prize. i agree that it's most definitely a bit premature, but i still maintain that it was awarded in hopes of pushing him to further accomplishments toward peace on the world stage. because really. . . he's the one guy in the whole world who needs the most support/reassurance. his is a truly gargantuan task

Even if I couldn't refute any of your points, the fact remains he has escalated in both Afghanistan and Pakistan since getting in office. If a man is to be considered for such an award shouldn't his whole body of work be considered?

DdC · 10-09-2009, 07:34 PM

Anyone having to pick up after Booshcheny's rape and pillage should receive a Nobel Peace Prize. The people of the world don't take orders from lush rimjob and whatsitsface. It is they whom feel safer with Obama and terrorized by GOPerverts and their selling war toys to jackals like Sadamn and Osama Bin Boosh in the first damn place. So look around, Obama is the only one talking and its the GOPerverts still hammering for more war. Blocking discussions and inciting riots. Same book burner teabogs mouthfarting for who, Dancing Tom Delay and the Dick Army?

McConjob bilking seniors out of pensions in the El Dorado savings and loan scam, yet y'all ran it for office anyway. His wife stealing drugs from charity victims, OK by the idiots. Enron and Orleans killing Americans and where are the plastic patriots? Or son of nazi Rove shredding the Justice Dept. Or what was left after Klintoon Boosh and the Patriot Ax. Maybe sorry Paleone sucking off Exxon costing tax payers $100 billion? Cheering that jobs and profits for Chicago were lost losing the bid for the Olympics. Thats just Un-American sheep. Cowards to the nth degree.

Just liars and thieves for G-20 corporatists. So fucking lazy they fight workers wanting affordable health care, protecting $100,000.00 an hour salaries for AIG execs. Same ignorant trailer trash spouting reefer madness and fear of clean water as some commie plot against hard working polluters. You know shitkicking Idiots. Who has stepped up to more opposition than the combined 28 years of Boosh,Rayguns,Boosh, Klintoon and Boosh ever saw? Obama, thats who. 9 months and the yellow bellies whining like babies that he hasn't fixed 8 years of GOPerverts fuckups? The saving grace is this is the end of the republican party. Now the blue dawg DNC can fill their slot and let plain ole Americans have their country back. Fox newts would sell their country for their political party. Thats treason bubba! Bunch of pansy's spouting buzzwords, still deathly afraid of color pigments in someones skin. Pitifuckingfools! Fucking commies!

A Few Buzzwords 07/13/01

Mydriasis · 10-09-2009, 08:52 PM

The guy JUST sent 30,000 troops to Afghanistan? Nobel peace prize... lul wut?
Edit - I apologize this hasn't happened yet. Misleading news articles

The Rev · 10-09-2009, 09:33 PM

Still better than Time Magazine Man of the Year:

The Rev

**~~stateofkane~~** · 10-09-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stoneric

Give it to someone who actually lives their life for the cause

Which is impossible for a US President today. Clinton came closer to the cause of peace than any President in the 20th century.

I think the bestowing of this award on him is to hold him to a standard. They want it to influence him.

**~~stateofkane~~** · 10-09-2009, 10:13 PM

What I mean by impossible is that it is far too radical. If POTUS refused to do anything militarily and started withdrawing troops from everywhere, he would get mysteriously run over by a bus.

I'm not even a conspiracy theorist and know this.

Ego Tripping · 10-09-2009, 11:25 PM

You make a great point and I agree. It makes me wonder who truly is behind the Military Industrial Complex and what the President is really to do when he's in that chair and wants to push against it (JFK, I suppose, was the last one to do so). Then you have Presidents like Bush who just seem to enjoy it and step on the gas as far as the agenda goes. I digress...

When you say 'they want to influence him', do you mean in the sense to lean him towards peace?

John F. Kerry · 10-09-2009, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MannyBoy

Good for Obama and good for the world.

I am happy to see the world community viewing our leadership as pro-peace and less "might makes right". As far as Obama's actual steps toward peace, he is making good on his pledge to end American involvement in Iraq. I don't think this would have been the case with J. McCain.

On the other hand, as mention by another poster earlier, he is contemplating sending more military force to Afghanistan. This is troubling from a peacemaking perspective. I know the argument is more forces will get the job done and get us out more quickly. However, it seems kind of backward to me. More force = peace.

Let us keep the cause of peace for the good of all alive.

im happy the world is viewing our leadership as leadership too frankly,

obama has at least to some extent shown how u can in many cases get better results than being headstrong, but the problem is that at the end of the day, the tough choices will require our military to actually suceed.

but i like how he has reestablished american leadership worldwide, he basically beat al qaida (or rather the american people did) by voting for him , it was a hell of a lot easier then 2 wars....

but on the other hand, we shouldnt cozy up too much to the warm feeling of having people like us, because they dont, really, we are still on top, and theyll stab us in the back if we let them get on too much.

John F. Kerry · 10-09-2009, 11:36 PM

its a nice feeling to have the world looking to us for something other than f22s and b2s, as long as they know we still have those too.

Ego Tripping · 10-10-2009, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by John F. Kerry

but the problem is that at the end of the day, the tough choices will require our military to actually suceed.

So why haven't you enlisted?

Seriously. Why?

**~~stateofkane~~** · 10-10-2009, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ego Tripping

When you say 'they want to influence him', do you mean in the sense to lean him towards peace?

Yes.

Hedons · 10-10-2009, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Grieves

"Unlike the other Nobel Prizes, which recognize completed scientific or literary accomplishment, the Nobel Peace Prize may be awarded to persons or organizations that are in the process of resolving a conflict or creating peace. The laureates criteria have later been expanded beyond peace mediation to include efforts to combat poverty, disease and climate change."

I think I found you an answer. A biased one obviously, but funny.

-Hedons

How to win a Nobel Peace Prize in 12 days
by Tommy DeSeno

President Obama has broken new ground here. Nominations to win the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize ended February 1. The President took office only 12 days earlier on January 20.

Let’s take a look at the President’s first 12 days in office from his publicized schedule to see what he did to deserve a Nobel Peace Prize:

January 20: Went to a parade. Partied.

January 21: Asked bureaucrats to re-write guidelines for information requests. Held an “open house” party at the White House.

January 22: Signed Executive Orders: Executive Branch workers to take ethics pledge; Re-affirmed Army Field Manuel Techniques for Interrogations; Expressed desire to close Gitmo (how’s that working out?);

January 23: Ordered the release of federal funding to pay for abortions in foreign countries. Lunch with Joe Biden; met with Tim Geithner.

January 24: Budget meeting with economic team.

January 25: Skipped church.

January 26: Gave speech about jobs and energy. Met with Hillary Clinton. Attended Geithner swearing in ceremony.

January 27: Met with Republicans. Spoke at a clock tower in Ohio.

January 28: Economic meetings in the morning, met with Defense secretary in the afternoon.

January 29: Signed Ledbetter Bill overturning US Supreme Court decision on lawsuits over wages. Party in the State Room. Met with Biden.

January 30: Met economic advisors. Gave speech on Middle Class Working Families Task Force. Met with senior enlisted military officials.

January 31: Took the day off.

February 1: Skipped church. Threw a Super Bowl party.

So there you have it. The short path to the Nobel Peace Prize: Party, go to meetings, skip church, abort some fetuses, party some more.

Good grief.

Tommy DeSeno

Hedons · 10-10-2009, 06:30 AM

^
But seriously... I'm going to get a Nobel Peace Prize too. I've collected my cereal boxtops and sent them in.

I don't like this "Allow 8 months for delivery" part

-Hedons

MannyBoy · 10-10-2009, 07:02 AM

Well said Ego.

10-09-2009, 03:26 PM	#21 (permalink)
Mydriasis Do Not Resuscitate Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,317 Thanks: 840 Thanked 431 Times in 298 Posts	Wow I would have to say this is a complete oxymoron. Our nation is still at fucking war? I know of more peaceful people than the leader of the US. I mean shit didn't he call a musician a jack-ass? I wonder who you have to pay or know to get a nobel these days. __________________ ۞

10-09-2009, 03:38 PM	#23 (permalink)
Grieves Biblioburro... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Terra Sancta Posts: 11,588 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 1,903 Thanked 2,559 Times in 1,424 Posts	"Unlike the other Nobel Prizes, which recognize completed scientific or literary accomplishment, the Nobel Peace Prize may be awarded to persons or organizations that are in the process of resolving a conflict or creating peace. The laureates criteria have later been expanded beyond peace mediation to include efforts to combat poverty, disease and climate change." Maybe the committee knows of something that is yet to pass.. __________________ "And no matter what they said dollar is not your friend and it's the feelings that are hard to know are the feelings that all come slow No matter what they said dollar is not your friend and these feelings that so hard to know are the feelings that wont let go No don't let go, till you find a home World Unite and I'll love you forever"

10-09-2009, 03:47 PM	#26 (permalink)
Ego Tripping Are you in? Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,461 Thanks: 229 Thanked 657 Times in 438 Posts	It seems lately that people would rather see their personal worldview and predictions be justified than have any kind of success in that task, though. __________________ God appears, and God is light, To those poor souls who dwell in night; But does a human form display To those who dwell in realms of day.

10-09-2009, 07:34 PM	#28 (permalink)
DdC Decade Yahookan Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Santa Cruz,CA,USA Posts: 2,088 Blog Entries: 5 Thanks: 47 Thanked 570 Times in 378 Posts	Oh ya? Well Elvis was a junkie all by himself... Anyone having to pick up after Booshcheny's rape and pillage should receive a Nobel Peace Prize. The people of the world don't take orders from lush rimjob and whatsitsface. It is they whom feel safer with Obama and terrorized by GOPerverts and their selling war toys to jackals like Sadamn and Osama Bin Boosh in the first damn place. So look around, Obama is the only one talking and its the GOPerverts still hammering for more war. Blocking discussions and inciting riots. Same book burner teabogs mouthfarting for who, Dancing Tom Delay and the Dick Army? McConjob bilking seniors out of pensions in the El Dorado savings and loan scam, yet y'all ran it for office anyway. His wife stealing drugs from charity victims, OK by the idiots. Enron and Orleans killing Americans and where are the plastic patriots? Or son of nazi Rove shredding the Justice Dept. Or what was left after Klintoon Boosh and the Patriot Ax. Maybe sorry Paleone sucking off Exxon costing tax payers $100 billion? Cheering that jobs and profits for Chicago were lost losing the bid for the Olympics. Thats just Un-American sheep. Cowards to the nth degree. Just liars and thieves for G-20 corporatists. So fucking lazy they fight workers wanting affordable health care, protecting $100,000.00 an hour salaries for AIG execs. Same ignorant trailer trash spouting reefer madness and fear of clean water as some commie plot against hard working polluters. You know shitkicking Idiots. Who has stepped up to more opposition than the combined 28 years of Boosh,Rayguns,Boosh, Klintoon and Boosh ever saw? Obama, thats who. 9 months and the yellow bellies whining like babies that he hasn't fixed 8 years of GOPerverts fuckups? The saving grace is this is the end of the republican party. Now the blue dawg DNC can fill their slot and let plain ole Americans have their country back. Fox newts would sell their country for their political party. Thats treason bubba! Bunch of pansy's spouting buzzwords, still deathly afraid of color pigments in someones skin. Pitifuckingfools! Fucking commies! A Few Buzzwords 07/13/01

10-09-2009, 08:52 PM	#29 (permalink)
Mydriasis Do Not Resuscitate Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,317 Thanks: 840 Thanked 431 Times in 298 Posts	The guy JUST sent 30,000 troops to Afghanistan? Nobel peace prize... lul wut? Edit - I apologize this hasn't happened yet. Misleading news articles __________________ ۞ Last edited by Mydriasis; 10-09-2009 at 09:12 PM.

10-09-2009, 03:33 PM	#22 (permalink)
cantSEEme Cold School Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,051 Thanks: 152 Thanked 127 Times in 457 Posts	i just took a dump but decided against flushing. environmental reasons. hope i get nominated.

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10-09-2009, 10:13 PM	#32 (permalink)
~~stateofkane~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 560 Thanks: 20 Thanked 92 Times in 82 Posts	What I mean by impossible is that it is far too radical. If POTUS refused to do anything militarily and started withdrawing troops from everywhere, he would get mysteriously run over by a bus. I'm not even a conspiracy theorist and know this.

10-09-2009, 11:25 PM	#33 (permalink)
Ego Tripping Are you in? Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,461 Thanks: 229 Thanked 657 Times in 438 Posts	You make a great point and I agree. It makes me wonder who truly is behind the Military Industrial Complex and what the President is really to do when he's in that chair and wants to push against it (JFK, I suppose, was the last one to do so). Then you have Presidents like Bush who just seem to enjoy it and step on the gas as far as the agenda goes. I digress... When you say 'they want to influence him', do you mean in the sense to lean him towards peace? __________________ God appears, and God is light, To those poor souls who dwell in night; But does a human form display To those who dwell in realms of day.

10-10-2009, 06:30 AM	#39 (permalink)
Hedons Ribbed for her pleasure! Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Chicago Burbs. Delta(x) times Delta(p) is greater than or equal to h-bar over two. Posts: 4,645 Thanks: 23 Thanked 189 Times in 101 Posts	^ But seriously... I'm going to get a Nobel Peace Prize too. I've collected my cereal boxtops and sent them in. I don't like this "Allow 8 months for delivery" part -Hedons __________________ New and improved! Now with flushable applicator.

10-10-2009, 07:02 AM	#40 (permalink)
MannyBoy YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 58 Thanks: 20 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Well said Ego.

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