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Old 10-21-2009, 02:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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israel's war crimes are no problem with us

US Vows to Stand By Israel Over Gaza War Crimes
Peres Condemns UN for 'Spreading Lies'

by Jason Ditz, October 21, 2009

In a meeting today with America’s Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice, Israeli President Shimon Peres condemned the UN for “spreading lies” in allowing the Goldstone Report’s consideration.


Richard GoldstoneThe Goldstone Report details war crimes committed by both Israel and Hamas during the January invasion of the Gaza Strip. Rice vowed that the United States would stand by Israel “as a loyal friend” and fight against the report in the UN Security Council.

The UN Human Rights Council formally endorsed the report last week, with the US one of the few nations to vote in opposition to it. It has been referred to the Security Council, but the US is expected to use its veto power to prevent it from going any farther.

The report’s contents are largely the same as those from human rights groups that investigated the conflict, in which over 1,000 Palestinian civilians were slain. Israel has insisted that the author, South African Judge Richard Goldstone, is an “anti-semite” for penning the report, and the government has insisted its backers in the UN are also anti-semites which seeks to see the Jews slaughtered.
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bus bombings eh... you guys need beter first person outlooks on life. (not us fucking DRACO ppl)
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Old 10-21-2009, 05:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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South African Judge Richard Goldstone, is an “anti-semite”

hahaha, the good old Anti-Semite card... gets played every time someone dares criticize Israel.

I do believe that America has no option but to stand by Israel however... they are in bed together and if Israel gets charged with war crimes then America is immediately complicit in these actions.
Plus it would also set a precedent to charge the US and NATO with war crimes in their middle eastern ventures... the whole thing could come crashing down.
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Old 10-21-2009, 06:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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stoneric u always seem so excited to post your israel war crimes stuff almost the same way that i seem to post my iranian nuke stuff.


so my question is -

if u always answer as a reply to my concerns u just say something about how we dont do it to israel to etcetc.


well then can an answer to your things be that why dont u support it for any country other than the ones that ur bias leads u to think are wrong all the time?

if u dont care about anything fine, but if u care so much about israels war crimes then where is your outrage at the rockets and suicide bombings they face daily? or the fact that israel withdrew from gaza in 2005 and instead of getting any positive benefits from withdrawing from some of hte land arabs claim, instead all that happened was they moved into gaza and turned it into a base for even more terrorism- launching rockets and bombs from the synagogue places that jews just left a few weeks earlier.


so wheres your outrage then?

- oh but that kind of argument only works when its someone talking about a place that your bias causes u to support - u care so deeply about war crimes in israel but i didnt hear a peep out of u and even a defense of it when the revolutionary guard was bashing skulls in the streets to stop protests against the dear leader ahmadinejad. hmmm? were u outraged then too?
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a place that your bias causes u to support
where is your outrage at israel's war crimes. . . ?
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Old 10-22-2009, 04:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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stoneric u always seem so excited to post your israel war crimes stuff almost the same way that i seem to post my iranian nuke stuff.


so my question is -

if u always answer as a reply to my concerns u just say something about how we dont do it to israel to etcetc.


well then can an answer to your things be that why dont u support it for any country other than the ones that ur bias leads u to think are wrong all the time?

if u dont care about anything fine, but if u care so much about israels war crimes then where is your outrage at the rockets and suicide bombings they face daily? or the fact that israel withdrew from gaza in 2005 and instead of getting any positive benefits from withdrawing from some of hte land arabs claim, instead all that happened was they moved into gaza and turned it into a base for even more terrorism- launching rockets and bombs from the synagogue places that jews just left a few weeks earlier.


so wheres your outrage then?

- oh but that kind of argument only works when its someone talking about a place that your bias causes u to support - u care so deeply about war crimes in israel but i didnt hear a peep out of u and even a defense of it when the revolutionary guard was bashing skulls in the streets to stop protests against the dear leader ahmadinejad. hmmm? were u outraged then too?
How can you tell if I'm excited or not?

Iran doesn't have any nukes, israel is guilty of war crimes.

Learn how to put together a string of coherent sentenes if "u" know what I mean.

I don't support any of hammas brutality. I'm more outraged about israel's disproportinate brutality in comparison. It's like I hate wal-mart more than shopko although they take advantage of the same 3rd world workers(children). I also only compare israels history of aggression compared to Iran's and israels stockpile of nukes compared to Iran's. How am I being biased?

israel withdrew from gaza and continued the occupation from outside the borders. It would be like a prison being guarded from the outside. The inmates could throw rocks at the guards while the guards used high powered weapons. Of course this would all be going on while the inmates were systymatically being starved to death.

I don't condone anything Iran did during their crackdown on protesters. I think amadenijad is a nutjob. But since you bring it up, what about the oppressive governments of our Arab allies that make Iran look like a western style democracy? Imagine the crackdowns in those counties if they only had elections.

And this thread was about the US.
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But since you bring it up, what about the oppressive governments of our Arab allies that make Iran look like a western style democracy?
If you mean Kuwait then I don't see much of a difference. They're all oppressive.
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