34,00 more troops to Afghanistan? - Page 2

DdC · 11-13-2009, 04:32 AM

Don't know why Neocon publickans are afraid of Obama pulling out, when they praised Boosh for putting in. 4000+ dead, getting even with Sadamn, for threatening his old man. Same phobic troglodytes bowing to their "fag" hating god while they incarcerate 2.2 million, claiming prison rape as a sodomy deterrent. Hate drugs and sell drug commercials where 80% of the time spent is warning about side effects. Abort more babies than Roe V Wade with Tom Delay Incecticides sprayed on Monsanto Frankenfoods and kids. 5x normal if you're Colombian. When you're not murdering doctors attending church services. Khristzion maniacs killing for Geeeeeezus.

Bombing infrastructures hiding hobgoblins. Just don't talk about it or show it on the cabledegoop hurled into kids brains making them soup. Whine about taxes for sick kids and seniors but not for Exxon Mo bile crashing oil tankers. $100,000.00 an hour salaries. Golden Parachutes and shredding machines. Enron ethics and AIG greed. Vanna White makes a million a year, turning vowels and consonants. Carry a ball or act dumb on TV, millions hurled no matter what age. More spent on violence flicks than schools. Gearing up toddlers for future pilots cranking their asses off bombing Canadians.

Risking your life in a burning house, getting shot at by lies in Iraq. Then hope your family can keep up at home. PTSD eased by prohibited means and Pharm aids can't treat what ain't a recognized disease. Paying the same Banksters interest on loans to bail them out. I don't think Rocket Surgeons needed to figure it out. Cops prescribe medical treatment for the insurance conglomerates. Legally by elected selections of x executives reaping the rewards of campaign financing. Sheltering taxes in Ganjawar propaganda. Made up by workers protesting health care.

Sleeping in bed while some warrant-less flySWAT kicks down the door and shoots your granny. 34 times for good measure. Job skipping town with the city budget. High unemployment cuts down whistle blowing. Homeless remind us not to bitch at the boss. While Wallmart Street parties on forfeiting houses. Still no refineries being built. No schools and those we have get the budget ax. Have to finance the Ganjawar's groupies in private prison, farm poisons/pharmaids and rehabs.

80% of the busts are from plea bargain snitches. Plus rehab and pisstastes. 95% of the trials skip juries for fear of mandatory minimum sentences. Can't even defend yourself since its not considered medicine. 404 gag rules and 3 strikes your in for life. 98% of the "marihuana" eradications are wild unkept burlap and pheasant habitat. Weasely ways of the cowards in cubicals filling out forms to terrorize Americans. The Freep Press as "Liberal" as any Hearst or Joe Goebbels. Pitifuckingfools...

Marijuana: Less Dangerous Than Aspirin
The media irrationally focuses
on what isn't the biggest problem by any objective assessment.

clickpic to enlarge

Mull D · 11-13-2009, 03:05 PM

verklingen · 11-13-2009, 03:11 PM

looking at how he's being treated and how insane people are getting over trying to provide affordable healthcare to people, how do you suppose it might go over if he ended our wars?

remember people used to call him a "secret muslim?" it would be teabaggers x100000000. and they're already taking semi automatic weapons to town halls. . .

verklingen · 11-13-2009, 03:30 PM

i agree and that would be my ideal i'm just pointing out how some degree of trepidation is reasonable. in my view slowing that machine down is almost as good as stopping it, and far better than allowing it to chug on undeterred

stoneric · 11-13-2009, 04:20 PM

It would be nice if he wasn't thinking about a second term and just decided to save the country and shut down the empire like right fucking now. Then I woke up and realized it was all just a good dream.

verklingen · 11-13-2009, 04:21 PM

i think he might be more concerned about being alive to finish his first. . .

Hostile · 11-19-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by verklingen

i agree and that would be my ideal i'm just pointing out how some degree of trepidation is reasonable. in my view slowing that machine down is almost as good as stopping it, and far better than allowing it to chug on undeterred

I'd argue there's a huge difference between slowing a machine down and stopping it entirely, and I don't necessarily see any evidence that the machine is slowing, considering that he's not even closed Guantanamo yet. Slowly but surely the Obama honeymoon is drawing to a close, and I think the most positive forecast for the future of America right now is that people seem to be steadily realising that their messiah is just another pretender.

Nice to see you're still stayin' strong, verk.

Hostile · 11-19-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry

I never thought I'd say this, but it's times like this I regret not voting for Ron Paul.

It's times like this I just sit back and enjoy the smug satisfaction that comes with being proven horribly, tragically right.

verklingen · 11-19-2009, 03:18 PM

what about that attack biden called for in february that would lead to an unpopular decision?

i'm not sure anyone has been proven right yet

verklingen · 11-19-2009, 03:32 PM

oops just went right to the end of the thread before

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hostile

I'd argue there's a huge difference between slowing a machine down and stopping it entirely, and I don't necessarily see any evidence that the machine is slowing, considering that he's not even closed Guantanamo yet. Slowly but surely the Obama honeymoon is drawing to a close, and I think the most positive forecast for the future of America right now is that people seem to be steadily realising that their messiah is just another pretender.

Nice to see you're still stayin' strong, verk.

i agree, but there's just as big a difference between slowing it down and giving it more fuel. at this point i would have fully expected posturing for an imminent invasion of iran if we wouldn't be there already, should mccain have been voted into office. there definitely would not be any debate about bending to the will of the military industrial complex and providing more fodder for profit and death. if not having realized that very reasonable potential is not evidence of the machine slowing, i'm not sure what else could be.

Hostile · 11-19-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by verklingen

what about that attack biden called for in february that would lead to an unpopular decision?

Ooh, ouch. Good memory. Still, I can at least lord it over people who insisted Obama would have exited the Middle East by now, or closed Guantanamo, or have made any kind of improvement to the current situation.

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Originally Posted by verklingen

i agree, but there's just as big a difference between slowing it down and giving it more fuel. at this point i would have fully expected posturing for an imminent invasion of iran if we wouldn't be there already, should mccain have been voted into office. there definitely would not be any debate about bending to the will of the military industrial complex and providing more fodder for profit and death. if not having realized that very reasonable potential is not evidence of the machine slowing, i'm not sure what else could be.

Well it's not like Bush immediately went to war upon achieving office, there was a delay, and Obama has so far done very little to stop the conflicts he has inherited. I feel no closer or further from conflict with Iran than when Bush was in the office, and I suspect America would be in precisely the same situation no matter which puppet won the election. I will gladly concede that some rather positive things have been said by the Obama administration since he came to power, and some very positive sentiments have been publicised by them... I just don't believe them.

11-13-2009, 04:32 AM	#21 (permalink)
DdC Decade Yahookan Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Santa Cruz,CA,USA Posts: 2,088 Blog Entries: 5 Thanks: 47 Thanked 570 Times in 378 Posts	Fascist Fossils Pitifuckingfools... Don't know why Neocon publickans are afraid of Obama pulling out, when they praised Boosh for putting in. 4000+ dead, getting even with Sadamn, for threatening his old man. Same phobic troglodytes bowing to their "fag" hating god while they incarcerate 2.2 million, claiming prison rape as a sodomy deterrent. Hate drugs and sell drug commercials where 80% of the time spent is warning about side effects. Abort more babies than Roe V Wade with Tom Delay Incecticides sprayed on Monsanto Frankenfoods and kids. 5x normal if you're Colombian. When you're not murdering doctors attending church services. Khristzion maniacs killing for Geeeeeezus. Bombing infrastructures hiding hobgoblins. Just don't talk about it or show it on the cabledegoop hurled into kids brains making them soup. Whine about taxes for sick kids and seniors but not for Exxon Mo bile crashing oil tankers. $100,000.00 an hour salaries. Golden Parachutes and shredding machines. Enron ethics and AIG greed. Vanna White makes a million a year, turning vowels and consonants. Carry a ball or act dumb on TV, millions hurled no matter what age. More spent on violence flicks than schools. Gearing up toddlers for future pilots cranking their asses off bombing Canadians. Risking your life in a burning house, getting shot at by lies in Iraq. Then hope your family can keep up at home. PTSD eased by prohibited means and Pharm aids can't treat what ain't a recognized disease. Paying the same Banksters interest on loans to bail them out. I don't think Rocket Surgeons needed to figure it out. Cops prescribe medical treatment for the insurance conglomerates. Legally by elected selections of x executives reaping the rewards of campaign financing. Sheltering taxes in Ganjawar propaganda. Made up by workers protesting health care. Sleeping in bed while some warrant-less flySWAT kicks down the door and shoots your granny. 34 times for good measure. Job skipping town with the city budget. High unemployment cuts down whistle blowing. Homeless remind us not to bitch at the boss. While Wallmart Street parties on forfeiting houses. Still no refineries being built. No schools and those we have get the budget ax. Have to finance the Ganjawar's groupies in private prison, farm poisons/pharmaids and rehabs. 80% of the busts are from plea bargain snitches. Plus rehab and pisstastes. 95% of the trials skip juries for fear of mandatory minimum sentences. Can't even defend yourself since its not considered medicine. 404 gag rules and 3 strikes your in for life. 98% of the "marihuana" eradications are wild unkept burlap and pheasant habitat. Weasely ways of the cowards in cubicals filling out forms to terrorize Americans. The Freep Press as "Liberal" as any Hearst or Joe Goebbels. Pitifuckingfools... Marijuana: Less Dangerous Than Aspirin The media irrationally focuses on what isn't the biggest problem by any objective assessment. clickpic to enlarge

11-13-2009, 03:11 PM	#23 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	looking at how he's being treated and how insane people are getting over trying to provide affordable healthcare to people, how do you suppose it might go over if he ended our wars? remember people used to call him a "secret muslim?" it would be teabaggers x100000000. and they're already taking semi automatic weapons to town halls. . . __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

11-13-2009, 03:30 PM	#24 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	i agree and that would be my ideal i'm just pointing out how some degree of trepidation is reasonable. in my view slowing that machine down is almost as good as stopping it, and far better than allowing it to chug on undeterred __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

11-13-2009, 04:21 PM	#26 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	i think he might be more concerned about being alive to finish his first. . . __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

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verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	what about that attack biden called for in february that would lead to an unpopular decision? i'm not sure anyone has been proven right yet __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

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stoneric bougeman Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,223 Thanks: 431 Thanked 1,246 Times in 892 Posts	It would be nice if he wasn't thinking about a second term and just decided to save the country and shut down the empire like right fucking now. Then I woke up and realized it was all just a good dream.

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