Obama Lied: Taliban Did NOT Refuse to Hand Over Bin Laden

kameelyun · 12-05-2009, 03:04 PM

December 4, 2009 at 01:38:59

Obama Lied: Taliban Did Not Refuse to Hand Over Bin Laden

By Ralph Lopez

opednews.com

For OpEdNews: Ralph Lopez - Writer

Obama slipped past a real doozy Tuesday night when he said the Taliban refused to hand over bin Laden. It just ain't so. They tried three times to open negotiations for this, but Bush refused each time. He wanted to bomb people so bad it hurt.

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UK Guardian:

A senior Taliban minister has offered a last-minute deal to hand over Osama bin Laden during a secret visit to Islamabad, senior sources in Pakistan told the Guardian last night...

For the first time, the Taliban offered to hand over Bin Laden for trial in a country other than the US without asking to see evidence first in return for a halt to the bombing, a source close to Pakistan's military leadership said.

The Taliban have offered to hand over Bin Laden before but only if sufficient evidence was presented. Bin Laden is wanted both for the September 11 attacks and for masterminding the bombings of two US embassies in East Africa in 1998 in which 224 people were killed. He is also suspected of involvement in other terrorist attacks, including the suicide bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen last year.

But until now the Taliban regime has consistently said it has not seen any convincing evidence to implicate the Saudi dissident in any crime.

"Now they have agreed to hand him over to a third country without the evidence being presented in advance," the source close to the military said."

Combined with so unhesitatingly waving the Al Qaeda boogey-man to make his case, in a fashion Bush would have been proud of, (Al Qaeda isn't in Afghanistan) it all makes me mighty suspicious. The Taliban wasn't declared an enemy until after 9/11, even as we had evidence that bin Laden was behind the bombing of the USS Cole. That's because Bush's buddies were still hoping to get the contract for the oil pipeline, which the Taliban government was refusing to give them. These are just facts, I'm not even trying to make an argument here. But someone has to call them on these things.

The history is at the classic essay by Richard Behan which went viral on the internet soon after it was published (re-printed at Afterdowningstreet.o rg)

stoneric · 12-05-2009, 03:40 PM

O=w

**~~stateofkane~~** · 12-06-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by stoneric

O=w

You just figured this out? I could have told you as soon as he announced his candidacy.

stoneric · 12-06-2009, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stateofkane

You just figured this out? I could have told you as soon as he announced his candidacy.

No, I had yet to see the bumpersticker. But thanks for letting me know you had things figured out. You're so profound.

**~~stateofkane~~** · 12-06-2009, 06:19 PM

It was one of the first posts I made on here. I told ppl who supported 0 they would be disappointed. Blacks still love him and so do 18-20 year olds, and who can blame them?

Adolf W. Hitler · 12-06-2009, 10:17 PM

Hey everyone, remember me?

I guess I'll have to update my name now to Adolf H. Hitler!

Ego Tripping · 12-06-2009, 11:00 PM

If any of these guys had a shred of support that Hitler had, there would be no chance of dissent or opposing opinion. Please put the Hitler card back in the deck, because it doesn't apply (nor has it) for fucking decades, (and probably never will again) and your use of it insults the very reason it should be used in the first place.

Obama is a politician like any other...one that can possibly help our situations rather then hurt them..but a politician nonetheless, with not a single resemblance of the delusional, racist, hate-filled mind of Hitler and his beliefs.

I'm far from from defending Obama, as once again, he's still continuing a certain agenda, but your comparisons not only reveal your sensationalism, but expose your naivete' of history more than prove any kind of point. In fact, I beg of you...please list some of the ideas and events of WWII Hitler-Era Germany that correspond with what is going on currently during this current administration, especially something that wasn't happening beforehand. I mean, I thought Bush + 9/11 and the Reichstag Fire was a direct Historical repeat of Hitler's rise to power, amirite?

The Rev · 12-07-2009, 07:17 AM

It is true, tho, that Hitler DID get accused of wearing "mom jeans" that one time.

The Rev

stoneric · 12-07-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stateofkane

It was one of the first posts I made on here. I told ppl who supported 0 they would be disappointed. Blacks still love him and so do 18-20 year olds, and who can blame them?

I don't recall many people supporting him. It was more of the lesser of 2 evils like it always is. I think that worked both ways. I can't believe anyone actually supported the old senile war hero as much as their red neck asses couldn't handle a man of color running the country.

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Ego Tripping Are you in? Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,461 Thanks: 229 Thanked 657 Times in 438 Posts	If any of these guys had a shred of support that Hitler had, there would be no chance of dissent or opposing opinion. Please put the Hitler card back in the deck, because it doesn't apply (nor has it) for fucking decades, (and probably never will again) and your use of it insults the very reason it should be used in the first place. Obama is a politician like any other...one that can possibly help our situations rather then hurt them..but a politician nonetheless, with not a single resemblance of the delusional, racist, hate-filled mind of Hitler and his beliefs. I'm far from from defending Obama, as once again, he's still continuing a certain agenda, but your comparisons not only reveal your sensationalism, but expose your naivete' of history more than prove any kind of point. In fact, I beg of you...please list some of the ideas and events of WWII Hitler-Era Germany that correspond with what is going on currently during this current administration, especially something that wasn't happening beforehand. I mean, I thought Bush + 9/11 and the Reichstag Fire was a direct Historical repeat of Hitler's rise to power, amirite? __________________ God appears, and God is light, To those poor souls who dwell in night; But does a human form display To those who dwell in realms of day. Last edited by Ego Tripping; 12-06-2009 at 11:10 PM.

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