kameelyun

Should be good. 10 p.m. e.s.t. Will provide embeds when the become available...

Til then, check out trutv.com for more details.

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Rubix

Ty

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kameelyun

Best. 9/11. Show. Ever.

I will post embeds as soon as they're available.

To those who dismiss the plausibility, in their own mind, of a 9/11 conspiracy on account of "Why in all these years has no one come forward?" you will see first hand of how several people ARE scared for their lives.

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kameelyun

EclippTV :: Video :: Conspiracy Theory: 911 Episode 2 part1/6

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http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=8838

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verklingen

i'll give this a go sometime today but i clicked the first link and just about had a fit seeing "IS GLOBAL WARMING A HOAX?" in the first frame

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kameelyun

^^That's next week's episode.

Hey Verk, I highlighted your comment here:
http://911blogger.com/node/22098?page=1

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verklingen

nice man, do you see what i mean about what i said earlier then?

edit- though i'm not sure why you called me psychologically resistant, i understand it helps your case over there

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You know, if it were just a bit less 'TMZ' then I could take this a bit more seriously, the showbiz aspect of the whole thing makes it look like a circus...



Oh, and is the 'Governor' really kinda stuck on himself or what...

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HTAM

I watched it. It was very 'TMZish'. I agree No.1.

To me, there was a lot of open interpretation about things that really distracted the show from interesting points like the Flight Recorders.

Like the Hanger 17. Like the government is going to place girders with the very evidence that 'truthers' want to test in some building that cameras can get that close to.

The Flight Recorders though. That was the first time I have heard anything about those. The mystery is not so much what is on the recorders, but why, as Ventura says does the FBI deny having recovered them.

About the formant of the show, though....
Ventura is the perfect maestro at his conductive best. He adamantly applys a gloss of 'there's something going on here', layer after thick layer. He is selling it, and quite well.

Fix that jackass editing though.

patriot

If the majority of Americans had the balls to stand up and fight the way Jesse does instead of being so chickenshit, this country would be a far greater place to live in. I brought up the questions of no fighter jets not too long after it happened. There were 4 fighter jets surrounding Payne Stewart's plane in 11 minutes when it went off course and did not respond. I haven't really thought about the black boxes until he brought it up.

9/11 resembles the Kennedy assassination so closely it isn't funny. Maybe now we know more of the story behind that. Kennedy refused to attack his own country in the name of corporate greed.

Dubya and Cheney should get a fair trial, then taken out and immediately executed followed by deportation. It amazes me how people on taxpayer's salary can be so heartless.

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Ego Tripping

I actually do believe in a coverup and the best thing the government/media could do to cheapen and completely derail the 'truthers' movement is produce this fake, plastic, cheese-filled container that this TV show has been used to do for 9/11. Perfectly executed. Now, nobody will really take it seriously anymore because now it's officially lumped into unsolved mysteries/moon hoax/flat earth/david icke reptilian overlords status. And what's hilarious is 9/11 "truthers" are celebrating this! They seem to have no idea that the emergence of this kind of show sets back any chance of the general population of taking the prospect seriously anymore.

Now when people speak about 9/11 being an inside job, people are going to say "Oh you mean that thing that Jesse Ventura talked about? Yeah that shit was crazy. OH MAN, DID YOU SEE THAT NEW HALO 3 AD THAT CAME ON AFTER THAT?"

I suppose it will eventually be exposed, but god damn that overproduced shit isn't expediting it's arrival.

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smallmac1

Aside from the cheesiness I definitely think it shed light on the subject rather than case closed its a mystery. All this stuff was aired on national television so already it has more credibility to the nation than zeitgeist. Plus its obviously not an easy task to blow the whole thing out of the water. Unless someone in government comes forward, no ones ever going to know about 9/11. The US government doesnt just give up and say "alright you got us lets tell them the truth". And your right Patriot every american citizenis chickinshit just like you are talking about it on an online forum for potheads. Its the past there's nothing you can do but talk about it and say it blows. Welcome to the twenty first century, if you wanna make a difference raise your kid to become president. No tell your kid to raise his kid to be president. Maybe in 70 years when everyone from older generations are dead than we can get some answers and progress.

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Ego Tripping

Actually, I think Zeitgeist carries a lot more credibility than this production does because this is not portrayed like news, which is the only thing people really think is real on TV (which ironically, is not). This is lumped into the same categories that Survivor would be, in terms of 'realism.' It's entertainment and people will view it as such, especially when the host is Jesse Ventura. At least Zeitgeist didn't have ad's. And when you think about it, how effective can a show like this be when it's sandwiched between ginormous marketing operations? The message is effectively nullified once the person realizes 'it's just TV' and proceeds to watch an extremely captivating ad for a new Mr. Clean product.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's damn cool this information has reached mainstream TV and I hope it continues...but not in this fashion. I feel it's cheapening the movement in exchange for some advertising cash flow. If it somehow leads people to take a true stand against the government's story about 9/11, then I will remain delightfully humbled. Otherwise, it's just a marketing scheme to cheapen and capitalize some marketing off a very serious movement. Time will tell, but I am going to predict that this kind of portrayal of the information is actually going to make more people benign to the underlying truth of it rather than act as a catalyst for people to inquire seriously into what happened that day.

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kameelyun

Damn I've grown to hate the word "truther"... I simply call myself a 9/11 activist or 9/11 researcher. I do like the phrase "truth movement" but... "truther" can simply be characterized by the MSM as the anti-Bush equivalent of Obama "birthers." Argh!

Good comments everyone. Much of the criticism of the show I'm reading here is mirrored by similar comments over at 911blogger.com. While me and many others are glad that this subject got exposure over the corporate controlled airwaves, there is the concern that (1) sandwiching the episode between HAARP and global warming and (2) the sensational style will cause many people to simply think of it as just another in a long line of "conspiracy theories."

We should remember the words Michael Moore said a long time ago: "Now, I'm not into conspiracy theories, except for the ones that are true."

Incidentally, Ventura has said that all seven episodes will involve "conspiracy theories" only from the current decade. So no JFK or other 1960s assassinations, moon landings, USS Liberty, etc. So I'm curious what 4 episodes will be after next week's global warming. I heard that one episode is going to be about "manchurian candidates."

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kameelyun

http://911blogger.com/node/22103

It was better than nothing. But barely. It was a little over-dramatic at times, venturing into melodrama land. They could have done without that. And there seemed to be some outright "acting" at times. That's not good.

I know they only had an hour, but, still, there was a lot of fluff that could have been removed to make room for more information and facts and evidence.

And they didn't even mention AE911Truth or Richard Gage, or David Ray Griffin and his many books, either. Or Kevin Ryan. I doubt if Willie Rodriguez mentioned or suggested they talk to AE911Truth/Gage, but one would hope that Steven Jones did, and maybe he did and they cut that, and/or ignored it. (BIG WTF??? factor there)

If you look at it "objectively", their investigation was shoddy crap, and their so-called investigation team was very poor, at best, if they couldn't even "discover" AE911Truth and RG. (and more)

Even a cursory comment about AE911Truth, and that almost 1,000 A&E's are demanding a new investigation, etc., would have been minimally acceptable, and they couldn't even do that. They also didn't do enough about WTC 7, even simple stuff, like free fall acceleration, and their "super thermite" paint thing was pretty worthless. They also didn't mention the Jersey Girls, and that they basically had to force the administration to do a 9/11 Commission, and they also didn't call the commission and the report a "white wash", or anything like that.

And I'm pretty sure they never even used the term "9/11 Truth", and there was also not even one mention of the 9/11 Truth and Justice Movement, or the hundreds (?) of groups and thousands of grassroots activists and demonstrations and such, or all of the DVD's that have been made about it, and on and on and on, any of which should have gotten at least a quick comment, instead of more face time with Jesse, or "coming up next" filler, and all of the other obvious filler techniques that they use and you see used in documentaries, etc....

So now I have to wonder if all of the rest of the shows they do are just as shoddy in (so-called) "investigation" and finding real information and truth, etc. It puts a black pall overshadowing the show.

Very unfortunate. The best we can hope for is that people will find AE911Truth because of what they saw and learned. And that it will introduce 9/11 Truth to a wider audience. Although, they couldn't even get the show on a "decent" cable channel (much less a network channel), like Syfy, or History, or NatGeo, or Discovery Science. (or PBS, TBS, FX, TNT, USA, TLC, A&E, etc...)

It could have EASILY been SO much better and more effective, without even really trying too hard. What a waste.

But, better than nothing. (it seems like we have to accept that, and achieve that, too much)

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zerodown

I'm going to watch it now, but before I do I'll state the opinion I have on what I THINK happened on 9/11(and before).

First lets get one thing clear, a threat to attack the WTC by a CIA trained millionaire with thousands of followers is not something the president of the united states would consider as an insignificant thing. With that said, the president was informed of the attacks with more than enough time to do something, yet he ignored it, why? The president would not ignore something like this unless there was a motive to do so. How do you find that motive, history, go back and ask what happened after the attack? War, motive enough to allow it to happen.

Now, I don't think our government did it, I do believe it was a terrorist attack, the fact that the president was shown a full report on it prior to it happening confirms it. But I do believe our government not only ALLOWED it to happen, but they also helped a little bit from behind the curtains by setting explosives on the bottom of the buildings. Which means they didn't have to pay off a lot of fire bombers, policemen, officials, etc... to do it, they just just had to pay off ONE GUY, the one who set up the explosives, may two if he had an assistant.

Thats what I BELIEVE happened, our government knew of the attack beforehand, planted some bombs to make sure the buildings went down and then sat back and watched everything unfold.

Thats just MY THEORY, now I'll watch the video...

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Hostile

Well allow me to register a disagreement, good sir. I haven't seen the show yet so I can't comment on the TMZ-ness of it all, but I can say that any show which gets Halo 3 fans to discuss 9/11 Truth without instantly resorting to "tin foil hat" jokes is a very good show indeed.

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You want my theory?

I believe 20 nut jobs managed to put together a plan of action and carry it out thus handing the people in power the perfect reason to go to war against the brown folks with all the oil.

The reason the buildings fell? Simple. Who controlled the construction business in the 70's and 80's in New York? Organized crime did. Perhaps the buildings fell because they were built with sub par materials and the ones who were supposed to inspect and pass these materials made some fine graft for themselves.

The buildings were designed to withstand quite a bit if they had been built to spec which I highly doubt they were.

It wasn't so much an inside job as it was common practice amongst contractors and suppliers back in the day.

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Hostile

Do you honestly believe that the construction of the WTC was such a rushed and cheap botch job that their steel structures couldn't withstand a little heat? Steel is steel, unless by "sub par materials" you mean pipe cleaners and rubber bands.

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kameelyun

No. 1:

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