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A PhD in Anarchy
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Fascists Everywhere!
via the PO
by James Leroy Wilson March 4, 2010 Opponents of Obamacare are fascists because, obviously, they believe health decisions should be in the hands of corporations, not individuals and their doctors. But supporters of Obamacare are also fascists because they believe health decisions should be in the hands of government, not individuals and their doctors. Opponents of the Federal Reserve and the bankers are fascists because they are just speaking in code: they're really talking about Jewish financiers. But supporters of the Federal Reserve are also fascists because the Fed supports and funds the corporation-dominated government. Critics of neoconservatism and the Bush foreign policy are fascist because "neocon" is code for Jewish, pro-Israel intellectuals. But supporters of the Bush foreign policy are also fascists because they illegally invaded Iraq without provocation. Opponents of the Patriot Act, warrantless spying, torture, and assassinations are fascists, in that they hate America and want the Islamo-fascists to win. But supporters of such measures are also fascist because they want everyone to sacrifice their liberty and privacy to the President, and let the government behave with no sense of restraint or decency. Opponents of aid to Israel are fascist because they obviously want the world's only Jewish state to be wiped off the map. But supporters of Israel are also fascist because they want American domination and control of the entire region through their Israeli proxies. Supporters of a non-interventionist foreign policy are fascist because, if they had their way, the fascists would have won World War II. But supporters of an interventionist foreign policy advocate war as a first resort, and mix their religious beliefs and values with militaristic national symbols -- just like fascists. If you believe in New World Order conspiracies, you are a nativist fascist. But if you support the New World Order, you are a corporatist fascist. If you believe the First Amendment supports a corporation's right to free speech, you're a fascist who wants fraudulent elections and corrupt government. But if you don't believe the First Amendment supports a corporation's right to free speech, you're a fascist because you believe the government has the right to censor information. If you believe in the right to bear arms and in militias, you're probably a fascist who fantasizes about shooting minorities and liberals in a civil war. But if you don't believe in the right to bear arms, you're a fascist who doesn't believe the Jews should have had the power to fight back when the Nazis rounded them up. If you homeschool your children, you probably want to raise them up to lead a fascist theocracy. But if you support the public schools, you want to condition the minds of youth so that they embrace fascist conformity. If you believe the Civil War was unconstitutional, you're an apologist for slavery, which makes you a white supremacist, which makes you a fascist. But if you do believe Lincoln's invasion was Constitutional, then you think the Constitution authorizes endless war and dictatorship, which makes you a fascist. Those who proclaim "family values" and "God" are obviously fascists who want to cram their beliefs down your throat. But then, so are those who would subjugate all social institutions and personal beliefs to the State. Those who shout "Individual Freedom" and "Free Markets!" are speaking in code: they just support the corporate fascist state. But those who would deny individual freedom and free markets are also fascists. I wish all the fascists would just go away. But then, who would be left?
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For whatever reason, the author seems to suffer from the same sort of educational deprivation as many these days. While the point of juxtaposing views of extremism is well taken, they might wanna reread the definition of Fascism before their next rant. Unless of course I'm just that obtuse and the whole point was to poke fun at those folks who throw that word like a rock at every inappropriate moment where their intellect or tolerance fails them.
I think that voters who opposed Obamacare wanted insurance companies to be crushed and better health care without having to support and battle the profit motives of corporate avarice. I believe that voters who supported Obamacare wanted the same thing. I am convinced that everyone was lied to and we all got fucked. The Fed and the international bankers are all one in the same, Jew and gentile alike. The Rothschilds and the Rockefellers all worship at the same alter to the same god, gold As for supporters of the Fed, it remains fully supported by their minions in government whom they have owned from the first. Corporations are merely the visible tools by which they satisfy a small part of their greed. The term neocon in reference to Bush is typically meant to be disparaging, given the differences between the Bush Doctrine and the meaning that Mr. Kristol (one of its originators) choose. The Pro or Con attitudes toward Israel vary greatly even within the Jewish community, as it does among gentiles. When the word "they" is used to repudiate the imperialist acts of our government one needs to realize that that is what we have voted for and supported for generations. There is nothing in our Constitution that makes empire building legal. The invasion of Iraq, while completely illegal if only judged by our own laws, is not much different from our actions in other countries over the decades. Tripoli, Puero Rico, Greece, the Falklands, Argentina, Sumatra, Afghanistan, Bosnia, Somalia, Nicaragua, Chile, Viet Nam, Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, Haiti, Korea, Panama, Peru, The Ottoman Empire, Japan, Florida, Texas, Cuba, Iran, Guam and the Phillipines to name but a few, exemplify a standard of hegemony that extends back through every Presidency since Jefferson. Ever hear of Manifest Destiny? Governments create boogiemen that are larger than life in order to extort more power over the ruled. A kind of sanctioning by the victim if you will. The big Red Scare is over, so now we have the Islamic extremists (who like as not wouldn't give a rats ass about us if we weren't illegally occupying half of their world). Other than a handful of kooks there is no mass movement afoot by citizens of the United States to adopt Islamic law and revert to the Dark Ages. Most Middle Easterners that come here enjoy the freedoms that we provide, and few wish to return to caste societies where personal liberties are all limited by clerics and scripture. The Patriot Act uses one to forgive the other. By getting everyone worked up or afraid they manage to split the potential opposition whilst pitting one group of us against the other. In the midst of this turmoil they further buttress their fortresses of control and manipulation while enhancing their ability to quell any future resistance or dissidence. As for Israel, that's almost funny. The Israeli's don't give a fuck what the U.S. says or wants. They will do as they damn well please, just as they always have. They realize that America is a great place to buy weapons, but we kinda suck as allies. Israel will do what's best for Israel first and last. When Iran gets functional nukes ready to go you can bet that Israel will make a big greasy stain in the desert as soon as they find out. Guns should be available to anybody that isn't nuts and will take the time to learn how to properly handle them. Ever notice how most of the gun grabbers have armed security or Secret Service details and live in areas that aren't exactly considered "at risk". I only dream of shooting politicians and bankers, with the occasional greedy corporate fuck or religious hypocrite thrown in for good measure. I paid to send my kids to religious schools 'cuz I wanted them to learn history, math science and to be able to read, something that the public institutions have forgotten how to do. That way instead of home schooling we're just home deprogramming to encourage them to decide for themselves and exercise analytical thinking. Besides, without continuous (like weekly) reinforcement the whole unnatural essence of the heaven and hell thing tends to loose its intended scary impact and dissipate rather quickly. The Civil War was unconstitutional, but so is a lot of other shit that the Supreme Court O.K.s and ignores...like the imposition of an unequally apportioned income tax. The judiciary has become just another pawn of the rulers. Of course the issue of family values and those imposed by the State (re: Affirmative Action and the whole P.C. craze in general) are just another canard to set people ablaze and drive them further apart. The better to keep us from rising as one, dragging the ruling fucks into the street and lopping off their heads. What if I have family values and we've got religion, except our family is all gay except for the Great Dane that my sister married and we like to alternate between worshiping trees and Satan...we still have family values... How about a State logos of treatment of the masses as we wish to be treated, and a little of that Golden Rule between all of us to replace all of this bullshit religious malarkey while we're at it. Even with all of their bogus rules and threats, the members and leaders still can't master just the one idea of being decent to everyone else around them. We've never really had truly free markets from which to judge one way or the other. Corporate irresponsibility and greed scares most people too badly to contemplate such a thing. We could accomplish it however with just a very limited number of rules, and this would apply to government employees as well. The first time that you fuck us we drag you out into the public square and cane your bare ass until you shat yourself, and then we cane you some more. When we're done you and your immediate family are banished to the most despotic third world shit hole on the planet for life. If you come back and we catch you we just chop off your fucking head. A couple of those every year and I'm pretty sure that the corporate douche bags and the gubmint tools will get the picture and quit trying to fuck us all of the time. Like Napoleon said, "One is more certain to influence men, to produce more effect on them, by absurdities than by sensible ideas."
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So my buddy said he read all 2000 pages of Obamacare and that there was some shit about a "One World Government" or "One Government World"??? anybody know anything about this? This is the same friend that believes Obama is from one of the families that Russians placed in America around the 60s to have children and bring them up to be put in positions of power to spread communisim so I don't know how much of this is true.... fun to discuss however!
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Zeit Geist
German for World View I believe. There's an interesting documentary on-line by that name that's been around for a while. The essence of it is that people have been getting manipulated for centuries...for the sake of power and money, if you can believe that.
The Zeitgeist Film Series Gateway | Zeitgeist: The Movie, Zeitgeist: Addendum, Zeitgeist Moving Forward The creation of central banks, such as our Federal Reserve, that are controlled by an international banking cartel, is a fact. The role that people such as the Rothchilds and the robber barons of Americas past play is expounded upon in a very convincing way. One of Ron Paul's primary political convictions has to do with the unconstitutionality and idiocy of our own Federal Reserve, which we don't own by the way. Our Fed is owned by its member banks (eg, the Federal Reserve Banks of Chicago, of New York, of San Fransisco, etc.) and they in turn are owned by the aforementioned cartel of Banks like Goldman Sachs, CitiBank, and other international concerns that are thought to be controlled in turn by the Rothchilds among others. While I'm not a fan of Yobama and his racist bullshit, he is not a Communist. He's an unapologetic Socialist, which the USSR was also. Socialist are all about gathering power to a strong central government, the antithesis of what our country was supposedly founded on. They also desire to take control of all industry, which if you're a Baby Boomer, you grew up hearing about what an abject failure the concept had always been in the USSR. The author of Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand, was an emigre from post czarist Russia who came to the U.S. and became a script writer in Hollywood before becoming a well known author. We The Living was one of her first books that was somewhat autobiographical and described in great detail just how fucked up life in post revolutionary Russia really was. People lived as though they were still a hundred years in the past, heating with wood when they could find it, or on small Primus cook stoves (the type that we used to use for back packing). Food was allocated to party members first, as were jobs, and if you didn't join the party you simply didn't eat. Even if you did get a food allotment you still had to wait for hours for a chunk of lard and a loaf of bread, all the while hoping that they didn't run out just before it was your turn I highly recommend both books. Although Atlas is over a 1000 pages long and written in the 30's it reads like today's news in so many respects that it's absolutely creepy. Other than that, I'm still not believin' that our Muslim friend is even a legitimate citizen...sorta like his aunt that he just granted asylum to...'cuz she's his aunt. (what crap!). There's a whole lot of shit in that bill that should enrage every sensible American citizen, but there are fewer and fewer of them around every day, thanks in no small part to our totally failed public education system. It seems that the status quo has a vested interest in keeping the proletariat as dumb, unworldly and uneducated as possible. That way they're all so busy just working to pay taxes and survive from one day to the next that they never have a chance to stop and look at what these fucks are doing to us. If it wasn't Obama it would have been some other asshole that got their chance to play puppet in the sun. In many ways Obama is just Bush ver. 2.0. Just look at the shitpile in the Middle East. Do you know anyone who gives a fuck about bringing democracy to Absurdistan or Iraq? I sure as hell don't. Especially at the human and capital costs involved. We're there to protect corporate oil and nothing more...at any cost. Our country maintains over 730 military bases in foreign countries throughout the world. That makes England, France and the rest of Europe's colonial powers look like pikers even at the height of their imperialist hegemony during the 19th century. Why do we need these bases? To carry out the will of the puppet master of course. Obama is an incompetent boob, there's no doubt, but just another in a long line of incompetent boobs. JFK mentioned such a situation in a speech just a few weeks before he was killed by the magic bullet. If we were to elect a populist who took the Constitution literally and tried to dissolve the Fed and the IRS, and bring all of our troops home, he'd be assassinated in his first week on the job. Ever wonder why we can put a man on the moon, decode the human genome and stick a smart bomb right up a gnats ass but we can't keep a Mexican from walking across the desert? 'Cuz there's no will to do it of course...at least not where the "One Worlder's" are concerned. Eventually our worthless scrip will undoubtedly be melded into the peso and the Canadian dollar just like the Euro. This isn't fiction, this is NAFTA. Time to hoist the black flag and start slitting some throats. ![]() Here's some other documentaries and websites that'll give ya something to discuss with your buddy. My wish is that every body would watch and read more stuff like this if for no other reason than to incite them to constantly question and challenge authority. That was probably one of the best parts of the sixties ideology that went by the wayside once the hippies all started up dot coms or became Wall Street who'ers. ![]() Watch Fiat Empire Online Free American Hegemony - A Timeline The Story of Stuff N Korea Military Tactics In A War With US
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