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So, by your design, it is just fine for someone to challenge the authority of the police officer in order to defend his perceived violation of his rights but it isn't okay for everyone else to be protected from a possible armed felon wandering the street with a loaded weapon.

So, until homeboy goes nuts and opens fire on a crowd of innocent people and actually violates another's rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness the officer should have no reason to have any interaction at all with this fine citizen? He should stand back and wait until the guy does something like that before he says word one to him?

In other words, it's fine for this gentleman to make sure his rights aren't violated and fuck everyone else who lives in the community because they don't see LEO with the same color glasses this asshole does?

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turmaline

So he knew his rights.

He still stood there argueing with the police for 10 minutes, and then decided to walk away peacefully, when he could have walked away in the first 2?

The last minute of the conversation was the same as the first few.

The guy's a wiener.

shakeNbake06

Cops should know if your a crazy felon you wouldn't be open carrying.. you'd be hiding that shit lol. should cops be going around searching everyone to see if their hiding a weapon on them and demanding to see id..? "oh no he was on HIS scene" WTF

José

are you a cop?

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No, but i do play one on television...




At the moment, I make teeth.

Why is it that everyone thinks the man is out to get them? I understand they receive the brunt of the attitude because they chose a profession that has them upholding some fairly shitty laws but just like you can't choose which parts of your job you have to do and still expect to have a job, they have to enforce laws that they probably had as much input on writing as you have.

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~1~

You do realize that most people in jail are there not because they did something against the law but because they were too stupid to get away with it?

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José

that's just stupid. don't do something against the law if you can't handle the punishment. whether you think you can get away with it or not...

usually I've always agreed with you No1. but I fail to see your points in your argument.

Mans sues for right to flip the bird at police officer - Boing Boing

José

what i'm trying to say is the guy in the video has just as much of a right as anyone to exercise his rights.

whether he has a reason to or not..

you can judge him all you want, but that's just making you look worse than him IMO.

José

and it doesn't matter where you smoke your weed, you still do....

just cause you don't smoke in public and I do, doesn't make you a better person than I am...

if you think that's the case, you should go jump off a bridge.

turmaline

lol Spankme!

triple posts!

José

ok!

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Everyone who doesn't think this guy is another fucking dink you really rather not have representing your demographic, please speak up...















Yeah, uh huh...


You should be a bit more selective in your examples man, you're doing a better job of proving my point about these guys.





Wow...



I didn't post this on the 'net brah, my opinion is what I've presented and nothing more and I didn't feel the need to confront him armed with a gun and a video camera to 'hold him accountable' because of my opinion because it'd make me look like just as big a dick.


I'm starting to think you're a bit of an asshole but I don't think that makes me better than you, it's just the opinion I'm forming given the evidence provided, perhaps once I've bothered to learn more I may think differently, who knows.



p.s. learn how to edit.

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zerodown

Your entire argument is based on the hypothetical situation that a citizen carrying a gun WOULD CHALLENGE A POLICE OFFICER, which is a pretty powerful argument but in this case as in the najority of the cases, didn't happen in this video. The guy, did not at any moment challenge the officers, however, I recall the tough cop telling the kid "this can go two ways..."

Pretty threatening.

And to answer the question, yes, the police officer should stand back and wait for this fine citizen, mr homeboy to go nuts, THAT WOULD BE THE CRIME BEING COMMITTED WHICH IS WHAT GIVES POLICE OFFICERS A REASON TO INTERACT, its in the rules manual they should have learned back at the academy.

Until a lawful abiding citizen stops following the rules and commits a crime, the only way for cops to detain you is by violation of your rights, or in other words, by breaking the rules they are trying to uphold. Can you see the paradox? Do you know your rights? I bet you know them, but you would rather stay home and be safe.

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Captain Cannabis

i'm surprised that guy was able to maintain his cool because he seemed to be getting such a boner from wasting police officers time

also interesting that open carrying of a gun with no permit is legal in nm

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José

See, there are three kinds of people, dicks, pussies and assholes.

Pussies think everyone can get along and dicks just wanna fuck all the time without thinking it through.

But then you got your assholes, Chuck, and all the assholes want is to shit all over everything.

So pussies may get mad at dicks once in a while because pussies get fucked by dicks but dicks also fuck assholes, Chuck.

And if they didn’t fuck the assholes, you know what you’d get? You’d get your dick and your pussy all covered in shit.

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Okay, first off lets not get too far away from the subject of the conversation that I am having, while I find it commendable that there are people who do make sure to keep the bad cops in check and stand up for me to make sure my rights are being uphelp, THIS guy is not one of those people, he's a self centered cocksucker who is in it for no other reason than to pump up his little nads, rest assured that if it wasn't the chick sucking his cock in that car he wouldn't have given two fucks about it and if it were a minority in that Focus I would be willing to bet he would have been cheering the cop on.

FOCUS MAN!

In pretty much all of my statements I'm addressing what an asshole THIS guy is.

Okay then, think hard on this one as I would prefer an intelligent answer.

I don't know Mr. Constitution, never had one interaction with him whatsoever. I don't know if he is a nut job or a pastor. Why does he have more of a right to be a 'revolutionary' than I do to be safe?

Okay Don, have fun with that...

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zerodown

I agreed to that before, what this guy did is indeed risky, but I fail to see why he shouldn't do it, from a legal point of view. Forget whats right and wrong in your mind, its the LAW.

You're the one who needs to focus, focus on the MESSAGE, not the MESSENGER.

Thats only your opinion of a guy on a video that lasts about 8 minutes, focus.


A simple and smart answer: BECAUSE IT IS THE LAW! its in the consitution, read it and UNDERSTAND IT(analyze why those amendments were created in the first place).

Your right to be safe cannot take away another person's rights, in fact your right to be safe is not really a right, thats why we have this kind of events: The right to be safe from guns shall not be infringed

The right to bear arms is a right, your right to be safe is another false security being pushed upon citizens by beurocrats and cowards who don't feel safe walking down the street, if you want to be safe, buy a gun, but you can't expect everybody else to be fucked because of your arrogant need to feel safe.

Just look at switzerland and their gun laws, then realize that they have one of the lowest crime rates compared to other countries. Why is that? Perhaps because everyone has guns and criminals have to think twice before trying to rob an armed person.

To think that keeping the citizens unarmed is a great way to be safe is like thinking the war on drugs is a great way to eliminate drugs.

PS: The right to be a revolutionary is not a right either, what mr constitution has is the right to bear arms. And remember, you have a right to live(be safe) you don't have a right to FEEL SAFE, if someone takes away that right then police officers should act on your behalf, but until then you have to learn to feel safe while allowing others to exercise their right as well.

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We have to learn to unlearn
Its not contradiction, its amendment
Not everything we see is reality
Not everything we hear is the truth
Not everything we're taught helps us grow
~Cultura Profetica

"La locura se lleva en la cabeza y las drogas en los bolsillos"
~Roberto Iniesta

turmaline

I have a Rambo knife under my front seat.

zerodown

As you should, in case mr constitution goes nuts.

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We have to learn to unlearn
Its not contradiction, its amendment
Not everything we see is reality
Not everything we hear is the truth
Not everything we're taught helps us grow
~Cultura Profetica

"La locura se lleva en la cabeza y las drogas en los bolsillos"
~Roberto Iniesta

badgoalie85

that's because you're a young kid from the suburbs who still thinks cops only exist to bust up parties and take your pot.

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