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Old 06-10-2010, 06:58 PM   #21 (permalink)
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its gonna suck when my mind gets like that.....
Sorry dude, it's already too late.
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Old 06-10-2010, 08:37 PM   #22 (permalink)
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You don't get it.

If you support Israel as State, as a right to the people who originally lived on that piece of land because they have now urbanized and populated the area with a large jewish population, then how do you not support the return of much of the land taken by force from the Native American tribes and Mexico for that matter as well, during the period of manifest destiny in America?

That's exactly what happened.

So dow we have an immigration problem with the borders, or are the Mexicans just coming back to their homeland that was taken from them about 160 years ago?
its a fucked up issue, morally yeah they probably should get some or a bunch of the us back- but the reality is that will probably never happen.


so should indians start suicide bombing americans ? or accept reparations and make their peace?
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Old 06-10-2010, 08:42 PM   #23 (permalink)
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well we got booze and crystal meth to quiet anybody that may utter anything about taking back land here in the states...
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its a fucked up issue, morally yeah they probably should get some or a bunch of the us back- but the reality is that will probably never happen.


so should indians start suicide bombing americans ? or accept reparations and make their peace?
I agree, they know it won't happen, and so do you and I. I think that we can also agree that they also know that they would be very foolish to pursue any kind campaign of violence against the US as it would not improve current conditions of their respective situations.

Right now Native Americans have a fair amount of good things going for them and they have seen fit to use the American Justice system to continue to improve these things for the people.

So, 'No' on the Indians bombing away.

What about Mexico?

Should Mexico throw the gauntlet down, we could possibly see the final act of the Mexican government, and possibly the annexation of part of the country. I suspect that even the most gringo-hatin' hombres mexicanos know that a single act of that nature would tighten the US border like an astronauts ass on liftoff, and they want that border as loose.....

as loose as herbinator's ass if he got sent to the State Pen.

So, 'No' to Mexico as well.

In the Middle East, each side views the conflict as wholly the fault of the other. You have shot callers with 'dogs in the fight' that are willing to make extremely antagonistic advances toward each other. In some cases, they both believe different versions of history. And then there's that religion thing...
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This is an interesting read with videos and a bibliography of references to support the writers opinion/view of the sitchee-ayshun in Israel.

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