patriot

Pre-employment in a Box - Careers, employment and sales job to earn money.

I once ran into a company like this at a job fair and I went and told the guy there that it's people like him that make it difficult for others to work. His answer was he doesn't make the decisions, he just provides the information. My swift reply was, "We don't give the orders, we just throw the Jews in the ovens." He didn't want to talk to me anymore. Awwww....:t hebird:

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We can't be using plants that come from the Lord for beneficial purposes. Now hurry up, or we'll be late for church.

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Legalizing marijuana won't grow our economy-Barack Hussein Obama 2009

OldMan&TheWeed

I would agree with you that a background search to exclude people convicted of minor possession from pushing a lawn mower, delivering the mail, teaching a group of adults, or flipping a hamburger might be crazy; what about a background check for the guy teaching your kid Karate, or the nanny caring for your young child?

Are you saying there is no place for background checks?

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The Rev

This is why I want OUT of the system entirely. In a world that insists you be a follower, whether it's by having the same haircut as everyone else, or sharing the same arbitrary cultural prejudices, I have no place. A person can't be free to be whoever he is in this world, no matter how respectfully he treats others. I'll never go back. Shit's just gotten too out of hand.



The Rev

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Grieves

Did they not read their copies of 1984, you must allow the populous to consume drugs to keep them feeble-minded and numb to stimuli....

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The Rev

I think that's "Brave New World" actually. In "1984" it was excessive liquor consumption (or is that what you meant?).



The Rev

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Grieves

o yeah, yer right...guess the soma is working...

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Debaser

Personally, I wouldn't give two shits if the guy teaching my kid karate or my nanny smoked bud, as long as they understand that they can do that on their own time, and not when they're in charge of my kids (well, the karate guy I could let slide).

The unfortunate problem with pre employment testing is that all it tells you is whether a person does drugs or not, and that's where the DAREsheeple anti-drug bias comes in, after all, if someone does drugs then they MUST be coming to work high/stealing from the company for drug money/ not doing a good job, right?

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The Rev

I can't decide if it's debaser's excellent reasoning, or his hypnotic avatar, that compells me to agree so strongly with everything he says...

Perhaps a bit of both.



The Rev

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Debaser

Ha! I need to shop it up a bit and get an intermittent flashing "OBEY" in there, a la They Live!

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patriot

Many other checks are also involved such as credit checks. Let me see now, you have been unemployed for a period of time and have been struggling to pay your bills. This has a negative effect on your credit score and history.

I hope everyone on here understands that Cannabis is the easiest to detect and that cocaine, heroin, or crystal meth are gone in a few days. Too easy to get around a drug test anyway. And what about a poor convicted felon who continues wo be punished long after he is released from prison?

We didn't have any of this crap in the until the 1980's. Employers were actually allowed to follow up on you through your references. We need to get back to this so people can work freely.

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A true patriot is always ready to stand up against his own government.

We can't be using plants that come from the Lord for beneficial purposes. Now hurry up, or we'll be late for church.

The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it.-Adolf Hitler

Legalizing marijuana won't grow our economy-Barack Hussein Obama 2009

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What does my lack of credit have to do with my ability to hold a job (credit reports for employment are going the way of the dodo however), my credit is non existent because I choose not to play the game, not because I'm a dead beat, I will however be excluded for that reason.

Perhaps they're just looking for the most complacent among us, those who will punch the clock and obediently become part of the corporate until it's time to punch out and go sit in your house box until it's time to shuffle in, single file and silently, next week.

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zerodown

I'll take a guess.

If you have shit credit it means you're poor, if you are poor you must do drugs.

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The Rev

Alot of the motivation for companies to adopt drug testing comes from the insurance companies. Workers Comp, which is mandatory for employers, is a huge expense. Often, those companies will give employers a lower rate if they drug test. I'm not aware if there is any meaningful correlation between drug use, per se, and workplace accidents, but I think it probably comes under the heading of "baby with the bath water" thinking; that is, if you drug test, most of the people who are screened out will be fine, but you'll minimize your risk of on the job drug users that way. Since the workers comp companies don't give a shit if you hire compentent people or not, it means nothing to them if many good people are penalized to cut down on the occasional bad one.

Again, you can blame the government. If employers could pass on workers comp, then the insurance companies would have to work harder to sell their product, and would be more inclined to sell it at a reasonable price. And as long as employees know that workers comp may or may not be a benefit they will get, up front, then no one is getting screwed, and no industries are getting a strong-arm subsidy from the government at the expense of everyone else.



The Rev

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stoneric

I started working where I do now 27 years ago. There was comp back then but I didn't have to piss in a bottle. The raygun years brought along the piss testing full force. And the reason we have comp laws is because coporate america could give two shits about the working man.

OldMan&TheWeed

The best teachers my kids ever had were closet tokers, but weed smokers aren't the only thing at issue here. Background checks also catch pedophiles and thieves. Would you want to give a second chance to a child molester with YOUR kid? If you had a business, would you want a robber at the till?

Again, it's pretty stupid to weed out weed smokers. Why not weed out alcoholics? They cause much more mayhem.

Most weed smokers (thank god) never get caught. Those of us that do are the unlucky ones. In this case, what the background check is really weeding out are the unlucky potheads.

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Ego Tripping

self employment ftw

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