STILL unsure about prop19? just watch this..

profit · 10-11-2010, 11:53 PM

YouTube - No on Prop 19!

^^ let's end this shit.

TIME FOR CHANGE VOTE YES EVERYONE!

yo. · 10-12-2010, 12:12 AM

but both sides make good points.

i'm glad i can't vote.
that's a hard one.

~1~ · 10-12-2010, 08:41 AM

Good points or valid points?

I can make a lot of 'good points' about how pot is a gateway and how as soon as it's legal the world will be smoking pot and car crashes and stoned parents neglecting their kids and on and on and on...

Now, are any of those points valid? Probably not. But that's what the no on 19 camp is counting on, you'll be too scared to vote for freedom of choice because you've been frightened into thinking what they want you to believe and once you're good and scared, it's quite easy to get you to believe whatever they throw out the tube at you.

yo. · 10-12-2010, 10:16 AM

Besides the fact that your 'points' are total BS, I was talking about the regulation, controlling and taxing of it by the gov't. That's not such a good thing, and it's not gonna change many people's smoking habits who already grow and smoke, other than rape them with taxes and regulations.

A lot of people just don't want gov't interference, plain and simple.

farmergiles · 10-12-2010, 10:32 AM

Why would taxing and regulation be harder to avoid than prohibition?

yo. · 10-12-2010, 10:51 AM

because across the nation the "prohibition" is joke, especially in MMJ states.

But I don't really know all the aspects of it. Just givin my two cents in the matter.
I'd vote yes, but after weeks of "knowing" prop 19 will pass, I'm not so sure any more.

Rubix · 10-12-2010, 11:06 AM

here's what much of the stink involves, however, anyone with a medical card can still smoke regardless of age.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

Every person 18 years of age or older who hires, employs, or uses a minor in transporting, carrying, selling, giving away marijuana, or knowingly sells or gives away marijuana to someone under the age of 14, shall be imprisoned in state prison for a period of three, five, or seven years.
Every person 18 years of age or older who knowingly sells or gives away marijuana to someone older than the age of 14 but younger than 18, shall be imprisoned in the state prison for a period of three, four, or five years.
Every person 21 years of age or over who knowingly sells or gives away marijuana to someone older than the age of 18 but younger than 21, shall be imprisoned in county jail for up to six months and fined up to $1,000 per offense.
Any person who is licensed, permitted, or authorized to sell marijuana, who knowingly sells or gives away marijuana to someone under the age of 21 results in them being banned from owning, operating, or being employed by a licensed marijuana establishment for one year.

i believe it is best worded this way simply because it would not get the general public support if the limit was 18...sad but true

yo. · 10-12-2010, 11:11 AM

I really don't think there should be an age limit.
Sure that sounds bad at first, but look what the age limit has done for tobacco.
Kids wanna smoke cigs cause they can't, cause it's illegal and cool.
If every one were aloud to smoke cigs, all these high school teens who get hooked, would take one hit and say fuck this! Cause cigs are nasty, period.

And what's wrong with 12 year olds gettin high and playin video games [staying out of trouble]?

stoneric · 10-12-2010, 01:15 PM

So I grow 1 plant in my closet. Under current law in my state, that will get me 4 years in prison. 1 fucking plant. You can tax it, regulate it, do whatever the fuck you want with it and it's still better than keeping it illegal. Besides the simple fact that organized crime will lose their staple product is reason enough.

profit · 10-12-2010, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by №1

Good points or valid points?

I can make a lot of 'good points' about how pot is a gateway and how as soon as it's legal the world will be smoking pot and car crashes and stoned parents neglecting their kids and on and on and on...

Now, are any of those points valid? Probably not. But that's what the no on 19 camp is counting on, you'll be too scared to vote for freedom of choice because you've been frightened into thinking what they want you to believe and once you're good and scared, it's quite easy to get you to believe whatever they throw out the tube at you.

wtf? good or valid???

what kind of fucking distinction is that? i mean it's just the right thing to do, it's a character thing for me when you wouldn't vote yes to change rules that are still being upheld from the NIXON campaign! i mean shit.. the laws were so fucking racist! it should be obvious at this point to vote yes simply to remove something from Nixon related legislature.

so this very grey issue has a black and white-ness to it for me- paradoxical?

farmergiles · 10-12-2010, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yo.

because across the nation the "prohibition" is joke

Tell that to all the people in jail because of prohibition.

stoneric · 10-12-2010, 01:44 PM

Yeah, 800,000 arrests per year.

profit · 10-12-2010, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yo.

Besides the fact that your 'points' are total BS,

agreed.

Quote:

I was talking about the regulation, controlling and taxing of it by the gov't. That's not such a good thing, and it's not gonna change many people's smoking habits who already grow and smoke, other than rape them with taxes and regulations.

uh what??

Quote:

A lot of people just don't want gov't interference, plain and simple.

yes this is a true fact.

Sugar420 · 10-12-2010, 03:11 PM

lmao

OldMan&TheWeed · 10-13-2010, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v3d4

lmao

What the hell was that!?

Sugar420 · 10-13-2010, 01:15 AM

it is exactly what will happen if prop 19 passes:
pot will grow 20 feet tall in seconds when you water it
all joints will have bar codes
money will appear for everyone
prisoners wearing tight trousers with bulges will be given joints and set free
hot blondes will get high and talk about life
everyone will go to dennys and eat whole chickens and triple decker hamburgers
kids will get out of school at 4:20 and eat cannabis ice cream (for some reason the ice cream guy starting at 0:44 is especially hilarious)
hippies in flower vans will drive slow
beer sales will plummet
bears will come down from the mountains and into your living room for bong hits

profit · 10-13-2010, 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v3d4

it is exactly what will happen if prop 19 passes:
pot will grow 20 feet tall in seconds when you water it
all joints will have bar codes
money will appear for everyone
prisoners wearing tight trousers with bulges will be given joints and set free
hot blondes will get high and talk about life
everyone will go to dennys and eat whole chickens and triple decker hamburgers
kids will get out of school at 4:20 and eat cannabis ice cream (for some reason the ice cream guy starting at 0:44 is especially hilarious)
hippies in flower vans will drive slow
beer sales will plummet
bears will come down from the mountains and into your living room for bong hits

nice!! ahhahahahah, veda, hahahahahahhahahahah ah~

profit · 10-13-2010, 05:04 AM

will prisoners be set free? i have actually been wondering about that one.

profit · 10-13-2010, 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry

There is a fundamental difference. Hitler was a good speaker, yet most his views were not valid.

Just because one has the gift for gab does not make them correct. Just because someone makes 'good' arguments does not make said arguments true.

ohh, well never mind. no1 keep on enlightening us even though i may start every rebuttal by saying "that is fucking ridiculous" XD

yo. · 10-13-2010, 07:53 AM

veda that was fkn great

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~1~ Successful Failure Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: where 'they' can't see. Posts: 10,925 Thanks: 466 Thanked 1,581 Times in 925 Posts	Good points or valid points? I can make a lot of 'good points' about how pot is a gateway and how as soon as it's legal the world will be smoking pot and car crashes and stoned parents neglecting their kids and on and on and on... Now, are any of those points valid? Probably not. But that's what the no on 19 camp is counting on, you'll be too scared to vote for freedom of choice because you've been frightened into thinking what they want you to believe and once you're good and scared, it's quite easy to get you to believe whatever they throw out the tube at you. __________________ "And those who are successful, be always on your guard. Success walks hand in hand with failure, along Hollywood Boulevard" Ray Davies --------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Click Here Asshole

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yo. Controversial Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SOCAL Posts: 1,160 Thanks: 676 Thanked 202 Times in 143 Posts	Besides the fact that your 'points' are total BS, I was talking about the regulation, controlling and taxing of it by the gov't. That's not such a good thing, and it's not gonna change many people's smoking habits who already grow and smoke, other than rape them with taxes and regulations. A lot of people just don't want gov't interference, plain and simple. __________________ "God" is an alien and we all came from another galaxy as an expansion of our specie's existence.

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yo. Controversial Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SOCAL Posts: 1,160 Thanks: 676 Thanked 202 Times in 143 Posts	because across the nation the "prohibition" is joke, especially in MMJ states. But I don't really know all the aspects of it. Just givin my two cents in the matter. I'd vote yes, but after weeks of "knowing" prop 19 will pass, I'm not so sure any more. __________________ "God" is an alien and we all came from another galaxy as an expansion of our specie's existence.

10-12-2010, 11:11 AM	#8 (permalink)
yo. Controversial Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SOCAL Posts: 1,160 Thanks: 676 Thanked 202 Times in 143 Posts	I really don't think there should be an age limit. Sure that sounds bad at first, but look what the age limit has done for tobacco. Kids wanna smoke cigs cause they can't, cause it's illegal and cool. If every one were aloud to smoke cigs, all these high school teens who get hooked, would take one hit and say fuck this! Cause cigs are nasty, period. And what's wrong with 12 year olds gettin high and playin video games [staying out of trouble]? __________________ "God" is an alien and we all came from another galaxy as an expansion of our specie's existence.

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stoneric bougeman Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,646 Thanks: 704 Thanked 1,512 Times in 1,067 Posts	So I grow 1 plant in my closet. Under current law in my state, that will get me 4 years in prison. 1 fucking plant. You can tax it, regulate it, do whatever the fuck you want with it and it's still better than keeping it illegal. Besides the simple fact that organized crime will lose their staple product is reason enough.

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stoneric bougeman Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,646 Thanks: 704 Thanked 1,512 Times in 1,067 Posts	Yeah, 800,000 arrests per year.

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Sugar420 Freedom Bird Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 6,138 Thanks: 41 Thanked 183 Times in 733 Posts	lmao

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Sugar420 Freedom Bird Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 6,138 Thanks: 41 Thanked 183 Times in 733 Posts	it is exactly what will happen if prop 19 passes: pot will grow 20 feet tall in seconds when you water it all joints will have bar codes money will appear for everyone prisoners wearing tight trousers with bulges will be given joints and set free hot blondes will get high and talk about life everyone will go to dennys and eat whole chickens and triple decker hamburgers kids will get out of school at 4:20 and eat cannabis ice cream (for some reason the ice cream guy starting at 0:44 is especially hilarious) hippies in flower vans will drive slow beer sales will plummet bears will come down from the mountains and into your living room for bong hits

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