TODAY: Measure to legalize marijuana will be on California's November ballot

Mikey · 11-02-2010, 07:13 AM

Measure to legalize marijuana will be on California's November ballot - Los Angeles Times

OldMan&TheWeed · 11-02-2010, 05:12 PM

I voted.

Mikey · 11-02-2010, 06:55 PM

good
every vote counts

wellfleation · 11-02-2010, 07:03 PM

So, is it looking good in terms of passing?

zerodown · 11-02-2010, 08:04 PM

So whats the final count? did it go through? or did citizens pass on real change again?

kameelyun · 11-02-2010, 08:31 PM

...I will gladly stand corrected if it passes, but I can't help but feel pessimistic.

From the following article (bolding mine):

Quote:

Although marijuana already is available at storefront medical marijuana dispensaries in California, Prop 19 trailed in recent opinion polls. Every major newspaper, both political parties, the two candidates for governor and all but a handful of leading politicians have come out against it.

Wow, I love the profound difference between the two parties... NOT!!!!!

And as a 9/11 truther, I'm not at all surprised to read that EVERY major newspaper there has come out against it. And Americans (even Californians) are among some of the most gullible, succumb-to-propaganda-and-groupthink folks on earth.

The CIA owns everyone of any major significance in the mainstream media. - William Colby, former director of the CIA

Oh, and as Bush/Cheney stole two elections, why should I have faith that this Prop 19 won't be infiltrated by rigging and vote fraud?

I'm SO glad I voted for Cynthia McKinney in the 2008 presidential election and didn't fall for the Obama hype. Don't forget that after the election, the transition team asked Americans (via change.org/gov) what the number one issue was in which they'd like to see change, and the overwhelming no. 1 issue was "legalize marijuana." The official response: "President elect Obama is not in favor of legalizing marijuana." I knew that would be his response even before his team put it out. Frankly, if Obama had said, "Wow, the people are truly speaking. I should take this issue seriously" THEN my jaw would have dropped and I might have regained a bit of faith in the republicrats.

Like I said, wake me when it's over.

The Rev · 11-02-2010, 08:45 PM

Well, it's not looking too good so far, unfortunately. It's not over till it's over, but the "No" votes are pulling out ahead of the "Yes" votes, fairly significantly.

I get that some people are for some things, and against others. What I really don't get is why someone feels they have to bar EVERYONE from what they are against, even when it has no real impact on them. Welcome to Planet Stupid, I suppose.

The Rev

Xil · 11-02-2010, 08:50 PM

ya its looking like a fail.
fuck. not gonna happen again for another twenty fucking years i bet.
All | TPM ElectionCenter

**Mafoo** · 11-02-2010, 09:36 PM

im still smoking a bowl tonight. and tomorrow.

i guess i dont mind paying "the cartels"

(im 100% sure my stuff is grown in the US so that last part is a joke

)

zerodown · 11-03-2010, 08:32 AM

Its not like it would have made a difference: Legalize-pot activists push for upset win in Calif - Forbes.com

"Federal officials said they would continue enforcing laws against marijuana possession and sales, and have not ruled out suing to overturn the California initiative if it passes."

Which makes me wonder, what kind of democracy do we have when even if we join together and the majority votes for something the government could still just say NO.

Besides: I don't trust elections, on this technological age, elections can be manipulated so easily its practically a joke.

zoltron · 11-03-2010, 09:04 AM

Yeah it's official...nonsense = +1. The politicians have once again told the citizens to keep those street-gangs thriving by buying their dogshit dimebags. Organized crime must thrive in order to keep those politicos greased. Keep ruining lives of people who have a few plants in their homes...toss them in a prison cell...confiscate their homes & property...let out a few child-molesters to make room for the dangerous grower. Make sure those pharmaceutical companies keep the briibes coming, so those politicians can take that Hawaiian vacation.
Back in 1974, when States were decriminalizing, I would've bet my last dollar that outright legalization was just around the corner. I had no idea it was just around the corner of Pluto!! I now realize that even though the 1st Prohibition Act of 1919 only lasted 14 yrs before FDR said, "Fuck this shit!! The only ones benefitting from this law is La Cosa Nostra!!" & booze flowed thru the bars once again. This Prohibition Act of Insanity will last way after my death. I've come to terms that I'll never live to see legal weed. In fact, they're probably waiting for me to die & then these fuckwads will say, "OK, zoltron's dead!! Legalize the shit!! This oughta piss him off in the afterlife for a few thousand years!!"

~1~ · 11-03-2010, 09:06 AM

Time to regroup...

Hey the one good thing to come from this is that there wont be a gaggle of fucking lawyers doing nothing but getting richer of the backs of the people. No one is suing anyone to get their way, eh?

~1~ · 11-03-2010, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoltron

Back in 1974, when States were decriminalizing, I would've bet my last dollar that outright legalization was just around the corner. I had no idea it was just around the corner of Pluto!! I now realize that even though the 1st Prohibition Act of 1919 only lasted 14 yrs before FDR said, "Fuck this shit!! The only ones benefitting from this law is La Cosa Nostra!!" & booze flowed thru the bars once again. This Prohibition Act of Insanity will last way after my death.I've come to terms that I'll never live to see legal weed. In fact, they're probably waiting for me to die & then these fuckwads will say, "OK, zoltron's dead!! Legalize the shit!! This oughta piss him off in the afterlife for a few thousand years!!"

See Zolty, if it was a constitutional amendment that placed marijuana in the schedule 1 category then it would be legal by now, they decided to skirt the will of the people by not making it an amendment but a Congressional act, that way only the shareholders of Dow and DuPont and Merkk and Pfiser and Hearst had a say as to how to protect their interests...

clive · 11-03-2010, 09:12 AM

Damn that sucks, sucks because it was so close most of all.

patriot · 11-03-2010, 09:52 AM

They would rather have crime and drug dealers. I wonder when the prohibition is going to work.

fenderbender · 11-03-2010, 10:06 AM

damn a lot closer then i thought it was gonna be.

shits rigged

cantSEEme · 11-03-2010, 10:22 AM

hmmmm....

prop 19 fails, and we now have a republican house majority.

win/win amirite?

now lets all get ready for total and complete bipartisanship.

The Rev · 11-03-2010, 10:48 AM

What's more ridiculous? A world in which marijuana is illegal, or a guy like myself who continues to be let down when the kind of idiocy responsible for that prohibition continues unabated?

I'm convinced I expect too much from my fellow homo sapiens. This is the world in which war, an institution that has brought 100 centuries of misery, still sounds like a good idea sometimes. This is the world in which people kill each other, sometimes wholesale, because they don't agree about an invisible God. This is the world in which people hold onto crazy ideas, even when presented with irrefutable evidence to the contrary. This is the world in which smart people are called "nerd" and made fun of. This is the world in which Sarah Palin is taken seriously as a politican.

People, we are an island of sanity in an ocean of cognitive diarrhea. And I, for one, think it's time to accept that fact, and learn to live with it, because it ain't changing anytime soon.

The Rev

myxomatosis · 11-03-2010, 11:03 AM

Defeated or not the fact that it got that far, the vote was that close and it got that much press coverage is a big step in the right direction so chill out ya sissies.

wellfleation · 11-03-2010, 08:28 PM

Fuck you

11-02-2010, 07:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
Mikey Seasoned YaHookan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: gulf islands bc Posts: 7,443 Thanks: 1,144 Thanked 2,246 Times in 1,475 Posts	TODAY: Measure to legalize marijuana will be on California's November ballot Measure to legalize marijuana will be on California's November ballot - Los Angeles Times __________________ RIP Gov

11-02-2010, 05:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
OldMan&TheWeed been there done that Join Date: May 2006 Location: The West Posts: 2,281 Thanks: 294 Thanked 800 Times in 406 Posts	I voted. __________________ Nintey-three percent of what I say is brilliant, factual information and seven percent is complete bullshit. Have fun deciding which is which.

11-02-2010, 06:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mikey Seasoned YaHookan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: gulf islands bc Posts: 7,443 Thanks: 1,144 Thanked 2,246 Times in 1,475 Posts	good every vote counts __________________ RIP Gov

11-02-2010, 07:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
wellfleation Old School Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Methuen, MASSHOLE Posts: 3,854 Thanks: 196 Thanked 601 Times in 427 Posts	So, is it looking good in terms of passing? __________________ FIGHTPOWER

11-02-2010, 08:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
zerodown Mafutero Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: PR Posts: 782 Thanks: 41 Thanked 169 Times in 131 Posts	So whats the final count? did it go through? or did citizens pass on real change again? __________________ "I've seen people so poor all they got is money." We have to learn to unlearn Its not contradiction, its amendment Not everything we see is reality Not everything we hear is the truth Not everything we're taught helps us grow ~Cultura Profetica "La locura se lleva en la cabeza y las drogas en los bolsillos" ~Roberto Iniesta

11-02-2010, 08:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,867 Thanks: 5,019 Thanked 5,421 Times in 2,865 Posts	Well, it's not looking too good so far, unfortunately. It's not over till it's over, but the "No" votes are pulling out ahead of the "Yes" votes, fairly significantly. I get that some people are for some things, and against others. What I really don't get is why someone feels they have to bar EVERYONE from what they are against, even when it has no real impact on them. Welcome to Planet Stupid, I suppose. The Rev __________________ Budforce - My Friend August 29, 1973- May 25, 2012

11-02-2010, 08:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
Xil OD'ing on sobriety Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mizzura Posts: 3,334 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 1,037 Thanked 1,158 Times in 717 Posts	ya its looking like a fail. fuck. not gonna happen again for another twenty fucking years i bet. All \| TPM ElectionCenter __________________ "we'll show these fascists what a couple of hillbillies can do"

11-02-2010, 09:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mafoo nice daze Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: the anguish of anticipated transformation Posts: 5,975 Thanks: 3,776 Thanked 2,652 Times in 1,698 Posts	im still smoking a bowl tonight. and tomorrow. i guess i dont mind paying "the cartels" (im 100% sure my stuff is grown in the US so that last part is a joke ) __________________ PLUR For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return

11-03-2010, 08:32 AM	#10 (permalink)
zerodown Mafutero Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: PR Posts: 782 Thanks: 41 Thanked 169 Times in 131 Posts	Its not like it would have made a difference: Legalize-pot activists push for upset win in Calif - Forbes.com "Federal officials said they would continue enforcing laws against marijuana possession and sales, and have not ruled out suing to overturn the California initiative if it passes." Which makes me wonder, what kind of democracy do we have when even if we join together and the majority votes for something the government could still just say NO. Besides: I don't trust elections, on this technological age, elections can be manipulated so easily its practically a joke. __________________ "I've seen people so poor all they got is money." We have to learn to unlearn Its not contradiction, its amendment Not everything we see is reality Not everything we hear is the truth Not everything we're taught helps us grow ~Cultura Profetica "La locura se lleva en la cabeza y las drogas en los bolsillos" ~Roberto Iniesta

11-03-2010, 09:04 AM	#11 (permalink)
zoltron Yankee Rebel Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: left right here Posts: 6,239 Thanks: 638 Thanked 944 Times in 500 Posts	Yeah it's official...nonsense = +1. The politicians have once again told the citizens to keep those street-gangs thriving by buying their dogshit dimebags. Organized crime must thrive in order to keep those politicos greased. Keep ruining lives of people who have a few plants in their homes...toss them in a prison cell...confiscate their homes & property...let out a few child-molesters to make room for the dangerous grower. Make sure those pharmaceutical companies keep the briibes coming, so those politicians can take that Hawaiian vacation. Back in 1974, when States were decriminalizing, I would've bet my last dollar that outright legalization was just around the corner. I had no idea it was just around the corner of Pluto!! I now realize that even though the 1st Prohibition Act of 1919 only lasted 14 yrs before FDR said, "Fuck this shit!! The only ones benefitting from this law is La Cosa Nostra!!" & booze flowed thru the bars once again. This Prohibition Act of Insanity will last way after my death. I've come to terms that I'll never live to see legal weed. In fact, they're probably waiting for me to die & then these fuckwads will say, "OK, zoltron's dead!! Legalize the shit!! This oughta piss him off in the afterlife for a few thousand years!!" __________________ Politicians against Legalization support Organized Crime

11-03-2010, 09:06 AM	#12 (permalink)
~1~ Successful Failure Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: where 'they' can't see. Posts: 10,925 Thanks: 466 Thanked 1,581 Times in 925 Posts	Time to regroup... Hey the one good thing to come from this is that there wont be a gaggle of fucking lawyers doing nothing but getting richer of the backs of the people. No one is suing anyone to get their way, eh? __________________ "And those who are successful, be always on your guard. Success walks hand in hand with failure, along Hollywood Boulevard" Ray Davies --------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Click Here Asshole

11-03-2010, 09:52 AM	#15 (permalink)
patriot Liar,Cheat,and Fraud Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: United States of Saudi Arabiaa Posts: 1,679 Thanks: 34 Thanked 154 Times in 103 Posts	Just goes to show you.... They would rather have crime and drug dealers. I wonder when the prohibition is going to work. __________________ A true patriot is always ready to stand up against his own government. We can't be using plants that come from the Lord for beneficial purposes. Now hurry up, or we'll be late for church. The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it.-Adolf Hitler Legalizing marijuana won't grow our economy-Barack Hussein Obama 2009

11-03-2010, 10:22 AM	#17 (permalink)
cantSEEme Cold School Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,019 Thanks: 152 Thanked 127 Times in 457 Posts	hmmmm.... prop 19 fails, and we now have a republican house majority. win/win amirite? now lets all get ready for total and complete bipartisanship. __________________

11-03-2010, 10:48 AM	#18 (permalink)
The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,867 Thanks: 5,019 Thanked 5,421 Times in 2,865 Posts	What's more ridiculous? A world in which marijuana is illegal, or a guy like myself who continues to be let down when the kind of idiocy responsible for that prohibition continues unabated? I'm convinced I expect too much from my fellow homo sapiens. This is the world in which war, an institution that has brought 100 centuries of misery, still sounds like a good idea sometimes. This is the world in which people kill each other, sometimes wholesale, because they don't agree about an invisible God. This is the world in which people hold onto crazy ideas, even when presented with irrefutable evidence to the contrary. This is the world in which smart people are called "nerd" and made fun of. This is the world in which Sarah Palin is taken seriously as a politican. People, we are an island of sanity in an ocean of cognitive diarrhea. And I, for one, think it's time to accept that fact, and learn to live with it, because it ain't changing anytime soon. The Rev __________________ Budforce - My Friend August 29, 1973- May 25, 2012

11-03-2010, 11:03 AM	#19 (permalink)
myxomatosis life is music Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: between a pair of headphones Posts: 3,917 Thanks: 1,027 Thanked 934 Times in 597 Posts	Defeated or not the fact that it got that far, the vote was that close and it got that much press coverage is a big step in the right direction so chill out ya sissies. __________________ oh sometimes the blues is just a passing bird and why can't that always be tossing aside from your birches crown just enough dark to see how you're the light over me last.fm blog deal (updated 12/22/11)

11-03-2010, 08:28 PM	#20 (permalink)
wellfleation Old School Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Methuen, MASSHOLE Posts: 3,854 Thanks: 196 Thanked 601 Times in 427 Posts	Fuck you __________________ FIGHTPOWER

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