farmergiles

It does kinda have the air of trumped up charges tho. I could be wrong but it seems like a strange coincidence.

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I can't disagree the timing isn't something worth considering.

His suspicion of guilt on the sexual assaults shouldn't effect him as a business man.

If he's facing the charges that is good and honourable.

Now.... if he's detained or poorly treated afterward... then I think we have a conspiracy on our hands.

But....If the 'powers that be' wanted this man out of their way he'd be dead right now, not in court for sex crimes, whose details seem odd at best.

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They don't want him 'out of the way' they want wiliLeaks discredited as any type of source of valid information.

What better way than to paint him as a rapist in the eyes of the stupid who put them in power. FoxNews goes on a crusade against that evil Assange and his dubious organization. You would naturally assume the rest of the organization is full of child molesters deviants of all colors and religious beliefs other than good old god fearing 'murican christianity!!!




No, once the cat is out of the bag, you can't just shove it under the rug, you have to make it look like under the rug is too good for that cat Assange and his ilk.


It might work too since most folk are too stupid to change the channel once in awhile.








Meanwhile...

Oh look, shiny shit!!

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You're right.... I'm so silly.

I'm sure you have it figured out.

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I haven't figured anything out. It's pretty simple actually, the worse the demon looks, the more evil he is attached to.

Ask Bill Clinton

That 'evil cheating no good got his cock sucked by an intern womanizing whore'.


Never mind the fact that in comparison to today, shit was running pretty smoothly for the most part.

You spin to the simple so it is easy to take in and digest and frankly with the average I.Q. in this country right around 100 you got a pretty deep well of stupid to dip into and manipulate.

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If you haven't figured it out yet... then don't tell me I'm wrong silly pants, it's just an opinion.


"I'm not a crook!"

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Fair enough and I don't think you are a bit wrong it's just that really, what he did or didn't do is irrelevant to what the powers that be would like to happen most, which is make wikiLeaks irrelevant. Play on the shallowness and short attention span of the masses, demonize the figurehead and turn the tide.


So we are both actually in agreement in a sense. If the man is innocent, let him stand up and be vindicated but the reality is what happens in the court of opinion is far more damning and damaging than any outcome in a court of law.



My $.02

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I just have to play absolutist dick for lulz sometimes... it's not trolling, but for me it's close.

I agree this is a mess to fleece people and I can't pretend like I don't indulge in some wool wear from time to time or play a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Here is a perfect example of a sexual predator that American loved and cherished... .there is hope....



Wikileaks needs to start giving away free shit or have lower prices than Wal-Mart.... get American on their side

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stoneric

There usually isn't violent behavior during statutory rape either so I'm sure it has to do with how the law is written and what constitutes 'rape' in any particular country.

Bad dog

the law says that she can say no right up until you've cum.
like this.

please let me suck your dick, fuck me hard, yeah fuck me harder, oh yeah put it my ass big boy, are you ready to shoot? well I've changed my mind! stop it now........oooops... ..............you go to jail for rape.

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Remind me to never visit Sweden.

Purd Hupley

No dog in this fight. If they snatched him on trumped up charges and shipt him to Guantanamo, OK by me. If he meets with an unfortunate "accident", just as OK.

I realize we're all snickering like 6th Graders about broken jimmies and how consensual sex can turn into rape, but it wasn't all that many years ago we as a society were debating these very same issues. No means no, even if it's said during the dirty deed. Whether being drunk or not made you unable to give consent. Date rape, acquaintance rape. It was all a very big thing. And sure, the discussion got pretty silly at times, but I think we reached a general consensus that the dames have rights (wink). Considering how progressive the Swiss are, I can see it within the realm of possibility that this could be a huge deal for them.

If it is trumped up stuff to whisk him away to Cuba, it's truly a testiment to the ineptness of the all seeing, all knowing gov that some of us feel actually run the show. The Number 1 Rule of Snatching Some Dickhole For Waterboarding and Other Civil Rights Violations is not to let your client state stooges release said dickhole on bail.

OldMan&TheWeed

The case of the alleged rape has gotten kind of lost in the crush of news in recent days, so here's a timeline:


The timeline of events:

August 11: Assange is in Sweden. he is to speak at the behest of the Brotherhood Movement. his address will be on “war and the role of the media”.

He is met by a woman. at university she was the “campus sexual equality officer”. she is a feminist. she has a posting on her website called: “7 steps to legal revenge.” It’s a guide to getting back at an ex-lover.

Assange and she agree that he can stay at her Stockholm apartment.

August 12: Assange has drinks at the Beirut cafe in Stokholm.

August 13: The pair have dinner. They go back to her place and have sex. he wears a condom. it breaks.

August 14: The woman throws a party at her home for Assange.

Assange is at the headquarters of the Swedish trade union. in the front row is a woman. she is wearing a pink jumper. she stands out from the crowd. she is from Enkoping. she thinks Assange is “interesting, brave and admirable”. she has contacted the Brotherhood Movement and is keen to be involved. The Movement does not offer a job. But she attends the seminar anyhow.

At the seminar, Woman B bought Assange a computer cable. in computing terms this is, possibly, akin to roses.

At the seminar, it is believed the two women meet each other.

The woman in the pink jumper joins Assange and his associates for lunch. at the eatery, Assange puts his arm around her. she says, “I was flattered. it was obvious he was flirting.”

The lunch ends. The pair got to the cinema to watch Deep Sea. she says they were “intimate”. They go for a walk in a park. Assange calls her “attractive”.

You can read the courtship here. It’s one based on cheese.

They ended up at the city’s Natural History Museum, where Assange headed to a computer console and, to the woman’s clear annoyance, twittered about his day.

You can feel the romance. But he has to go. there is to be a crayfish party he has been invited to.

She heads back to Enkoping. he returns by taxi to the first woman’s flat.

“Sitting outside… nearly freezing, with the world’s coolest people. It’s pretty amazing!”

August 16: The woman from Enkoping calls Assange. They arrange to meet in Stockholm. They agree to return to her place in Enkoping. But he has no cash to pay for tickets. he does not want to use a credit card because he says it could be “tracked”. she agrees to pay for both of them. at her place they have sex.

Assange wears a condom.

August 17: They have sex again. he wears no condom. The pair have breakfast together. she buys him a return ticket to Stockholm.

Then the second woman calls the first women. she tells her of the unprotected sex.

August 20: The two women go to a Stockholm police station. The first woman alleges that during sex Assange had “deliberately” broken the condom. The police consider the option that the women are victims. They think there has been possible rape and sexual molestation. Prosecuting attorney Maria Kjellstand agrees that Assange should be questioned on suspicion of rape.

August 21: Police look for Assange. They do not find him.

August 22: The news hits the press.

The chief prosecutor looks at the police papers. she dismisses the rape charge. But now the first woman is talking to the press. she says:

“In both cases, the sex had been consensual from the start but had eventually turned into abuse.”
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“The accusations were not set up by the Pentagon or anybody else. The responsibility for what happened to me and the other girl lies with a man with a twisted view of women, who has a problem accepting the word ‘no’.”

Who are the press?

The allegation was first brought to our attention by Swedish tabloid The Expressen. It’s owned by the Bonnier family, who have considerable business interests in Europe and the US. The paper has:

A commitment to protect the editorial voice from commercial and political interests and the courage to publish controversial media content

What of the source? Kristinn Hrafnsson works with Assange. Says he:

“He didn’t know of the charges until he read them in the right wing tabloid Expressen this morning. there are powerful organisations who want to do harm to WikiLeaks.”

August 24: Assange talks to the Swedish press:

Q: But is it not best in this situation to be as transparent as possible?

Yes, but I do not want to drag people’s private lives through the dirt without having the whole situation clear to me.

Why have they turned to the police? What lies behind their actions? What I can say is that I have never, either in Sweden or in any other country, had sex with someone that they haven’t consented to.

August 28: The search phrase “Assange rape” yields about 4,390,000 results on Google. in not one of those results is he guilty.

Sept 1: Julian Assange is judged to be a possible rapist as the case reopens. The Swedish Prosecution Authority says:

“There is reason to believe a crime has been committed. more investigations are necessary.”

Marianne Ny, director of public prosecution, says:

“…considering information available at present, my judgment is that the classification of the crime is rape.”

“Present judgement” is a phrase that suggests that the judgement may change.

Nov 18: a Swedish court issues an international arrest warrant for Assange. Assange issues a statemtn via this lawyers, who call the charges “bizarre”:

The warrant for his arrest was rightly withdrawn within 24 hours by Chief prosecutor Eva Finne, who found that there was no “reason to suspect that he has committed rape.” Yet his name had already been deliberately and unlawfully disclosed to the press by Swedish authorities. The “rape” story was carried around the world and has caused mr. Assange and his organization irreparable harm.

Eva Finne’s decision to drop the “rape” investigation was reversed after the intervention of a political figure, Claes Borgstrom, who is now acting for the women. The case was given to a specific prosecutor, Marianne Ny.

Nov 20: InterPol issues a “Red Notice” about Assange. this is “a valid request for provisional arrest.”

Nov 25: Russian state radio smears Asange:

His [Assange] culpability for alleged rapes in Sweden has yet to be proven in Stockholm’s courts, but most psychologists interviewed by Western media say that he could’ve done this, given his troubled childhood.

Nov. 28: WikiLeaks' latest disclosures start appearing on websites of The New York Times, The Guardian and other news outlets.

Nov. 29: Interpol makes its Red Notice public "at the request of Swedish authorities who want to question him in connection with a number of sexual offenses."

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Source por favor?

It looks like there are a few links in here I would like to check out.

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It was sloppy of me not to list my sources. Sorry.

One source was NPR, Timeline: The International 'Arrest Warrant' For WikiLeaks' Julian Assange : The Two-Way : NPR and the other is http://www.westernoutlaw.com/julian-...line-of-events

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elegy

I don't wanna know if assange is good or bad, for me he is just another pawn on this "control-game". Just because of some guy that released "some documents" on the internet, new internet laws are being made...

OldMan&TheWeed

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