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Pat Robertson, voice of sanity in the Drug War DWR

“We’re locking up people that take a couple of puffs of marijuana and the next thing you know they’ve got ten years – they’ve got mandatory sentences and these judges, they throw up their hand and say ‘What can we do, it’s mandatory sentences.’ We’ve got to take a look at what we’re considering crimes, and that’s one of them. I mean, I’m not exactly for the use of drugs, don’t get me wrong, but I just believe criminalizing marijuana, criminalizing the possession of just a few ounces of pot, and that kind of thing, I mean it’s costing us a fortune, and it’s ruining young people. The young people go into prisons, they go in as youths, and they come out as hardened criminals.”

Conservative Minister Pat Robertson
Disagrees With Continued Criminalization of Marijuana

It's a Christmas miracle. Conservative minister Pat Robertson made a surprising declaration on a recent episode of The 700 Club: He disagrees with the continued criminalization of marijuana.

kamikazi89

he seems to be ahead of oBAMA ON THIS ONE

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First of all, he's calling for the, ". . .decriminalizing the possession of just a few ounces of pot." This is hardly a progressive position. Small amounts of weed have been decriminalized in many states for decades now.

Second of all, Pat is a nut-job of the first order who has lost all credability with everyone except Alzheimer's Disease inflicted grandmothers who keep the cash flowing to the 700 Club. Here's just a sampling of some of his pearls of wisdom:

10. "Lord, give us righteous judges who will not try to legislate and dominate this society. Take control, Lord! We ask for additional vacancies on the court." –Pat Robertson

9. "Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history."

8. "I would warn Orlando that you're right in the way of some serious hurricanes, and I don't think I'd be waving those flags in God's face if I were you, This is not a message of hate -- this is a message of redemption. But a condition like this will bring about the destruction of your nation. It'll bring about terrorist bombs; it'll bring earthquakes, tornadoes, and possibly a meteor." –Pat Robertson, on "gay days" at Disneyworld

7. "(T)he feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians."

6. "I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period."

5. "I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover: If there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God, you just rejected him from your city. And don't wonder why he hasn't helped you when problems begin, if they begin. I'm not saying they will, but if they do, just remember, you just voted God out of your city. And if that's the case, don't ask for his help because he might not be there." --Pat Robertson, after the city of Dover, Pennsylvania voted to boot the current school board, which instituted an intelligent design policy that led to a federal trial.

4. "God considers this land to be his. You read the Bible and he says 'This is my land,' and for any prime minister of Israel who decides he is going to carve it up and give it away, God says, 'No, this is mine.' ... He was dividing God's land. And I would say, 'Woe unto any prime minister of Israel who takes a similar course to appease the E.U., the United Nations, or the United States of America.' God says, 'This land belongs to me. You better leave it alone.'" --Pat Robertson, on why Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon suffered a massive stroke

3. "Maybe we need a very small nuke thrown off on Foggy Bottom to shake things up" –Pat Robertson, on nuking the State Department

2. "You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war ... We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with." –Pat Robertson, calling for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez

1. "It may be a blessing in disguise. ... Something happened a long time ago in Haiti, and people might not want to talk about it. Haitians were originally under the heel of the French. You know, Napoleon the third, or whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, we will serve you if you will get us free from the French. True story. And so, the devil said, okay it's a deal. Ever since they have been cursed by one thing after the other." –Pat Robertson, on the earthquake in Haiti that destroyed the capital and killed tens of thousands of people, Jan. 13, 2010

Any sensible thing Pat Robertson might say has to contend with the mountains of crap he's uttered over the years.

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Hey man, the lord works in mysterious ways and Pat Robertson calling for abolishing mandatory sentencing laws and decriminalization of a few ounces of pot is fairly baffling so you really can't completely discount what old Pat is trying to say because if you buy into any of that fucking shit than old Pat isn't nuts just enlightened.

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Been a while, but on and off since 97 I used to frequent a Yahoo group called achristianvsatheistc lub. Posting these two themes especially have gotten the most positive feedback from the christians.

'Relax Your Muscles as Much as Possible'

Wall street's Spontaneous Abortionists

To a lesser degree, and some negative responses were on Ancient Temple Hashish Incense! Did Jesus Inhale?

Blatant Hypocrisy got the 911 responders their funding the same way. Exposure. Jon Stewert gulled them into it. How can you protest women choosing abortion when you employ airplanes to poison bible belt farm women causing the same abortions. Robertson is a lot of things, but making money has never been a problem with his diamond mines and support for Apartheid. I don't think he has a problem making bucks off of private prisons.

But prison rape and beatings don't set well when its to a sick person in for relieving pain or spasms with RxGanja. The other post that gets responses is Starving Babies and Illegal Food. The basics of St Francis, food for the hungry, shelter for the homeless, clothing for the naked and health care for the sick and elderly can be provided by cannabis, and its just sacrilegious to ban it.

I had an eccentric wealthy patient once, who supported the 700 club. When it came on I couldn't believe some of the slander and weirdness coming out of Robertson's mouth. A telethon no less. Curing people via the cable companies. Seemed a lot of what he did for the needy, he also helped cause with corporate interest and shoddy practices. Outsourcing, pollution, war mongering and especially his anti choice anti condom stance. Including building a coalition of lawyers to fight RvW.

All while poisoning the cotton crop when Hemp was organic and a natural deterrent to lesson chemical use on other crops. The process of converting crude oil into plastic, veggie oil could make. Some of the responders seemed to "get it". Fighting gays became a negative as more mainstream started accepting. DADT repeal gaining with military support put him on the opposite side of the money

Babysteps... but Truth will prevail in the long run as long as truth can be heard. Appeasing and ConPromises won't do anything but perpetuate some part of the Ganjawar for profits, and then taking profits becomes the fight. Or stays the fight as it is. Ganja is or it ain't. Bandaids like Prop 215 are shelter in the storm, but damn it the suns shining and they're still make us where goulashes! Go Pat!

Oh and this one too... Seems most Vets care about returning soldiers. Maybe not McCain, but real soldiers without political careers and relatives holding the rank of admiral. How can a GOP war monger deny PTSD with a straight face, and a cheap homegrown remedy? Again we the ordinary people can probably accept a heap of BS, but sooner or later. When they become the butt of jokes and real consequences of their actions start to pile up in statistic books. Even Pat Robertsons know what side of the bread has the butter. Fingers start pointing at the prohibitionists and they get the shunning and stigmatizing stoners know all too well. More with each days spreading the word. NoConpromises! By Jove, Its starting to look like we really CANnabis!

Many Veterans are the Enemy of the Bush D.E.A.th War Jun 08, 2006
Ganja 4 PTSD & Depression
Sam Stone came home, To his wife and family After serving in the conflict overseas. And the time that he served, Had shattered all his nerves, And left a little shrapnel in his knee. But the morphine eased the pain, And the grass grew round his brain, And gave him all the confidence he lacked, With a Purple Heart and a monkey on his back. There's a hole in daddy's arm where all the money goes...

The Conservative Argument for Legalization
DWRf closed. This is google cached from the DWR forum, and I am posting the DWR threads at yuku eventually. If any of my DWR forum links are inaccessable, let me know or check google cache. The yuku search works pretty well.

Ya, where the hell are all the GOP obstructionists when it comes to opposing Obombo's Ganjawar funding... and that $700 billion just slipped by for the war machine... Now the dude just beat every previous record for passing legislation, not to mention in a lame duck session. Hope is still flickering. Lost in a blizzard for a while and still barely lighting a path to our own destiny. If we choose to go down it or fight at the gate keeping the status quo quoing. Most likely the later but one can always hope. Toking illicitly doesn't change the buzz. it probably enhances it. Throwing wheel barrow loads of cash on someone for $420 kushykushykoo isn't really someone looking to let politicians fuckitup. I mean they've been listening to cops for 40 years, while jailing doctors and patients.



In combat situations aging hippies and their offspring, vets, bikers and renegade investors have already produced an infrastructure equipped to stock and staff 800 frickin buyers clubs in LA alone! With vending machines and store wrapped Ganja candy bars, beer, vodka and soda. Restaurants and better faster physician exams and referrals than the best insurance provides. Who needs politicians? Legislating by circumventing existing laws and rights with no need of tweaking. Abusing the Prison Industrial Complex profits and politicians investments by ending a strong opposition to legalizing mergeewona wouldn't be prudent at this juncture... Pat Robertson says legalize. Martin Sheen says prison. It's a mixed up muddled up shook up world.

$1,000,000,000,000.0 0 spent saveding us from burlap...

Legalize It! Audubon Mag. 09/07/00
Text by Ted Williams November-December 1999
Factoid A crop of hemp, one study shows, could bring a return of $319 per acre, compared with $135 for white corn.

Spraying Ditchweed Could Devastate Game Bird Populations 01/11/03
Nine out of 10 hunters probably couldnt care less whether marijuana lives or dies. However, marijuana is one of the Midwests most valuable cover plants for upland game, and some of the proposals for eradicating it could have terribly damaging effect on all other upland-game cover. And cover is the name of the hunting game. No cover means no game and no hunting.

Cannabis Eradications 99.28% Ditchweed 03/07/00
"The national total of ditchweed eradicated compared to the total number of plants seized is 99.28 percent resulting in less than one percent cultivated indoor and outdoor plant eradication percentage at the national level," the report concludes. It further notes that each cultivated plant seized by the DEA costs taxpayers an average of $3.02. Nationally, the program spent over $9 million for marijuana eradication in all 50 states in 1996.

DdC

Robertson Pleases Pot-Legalization Groups
Television evangelist Pat Robertson has made inflammatory remarks in recent years that offend gays, Muslims and others, but a recent comment he made on his Christian Broadcasting Network was more notable for whom it pleased: people who want to see marijuana legalized. "We're locking up people that take a couple of puffs of marijuana, and the next thing you know they've got 10 years," the controversial pastor said on "The 700 Club" on Dec. 16, in a clip unearthed by bloggers this week. "I'm not exactly for the use of drugs - don't get me wrong - but I just believe that criminalizing marijuana, criminalizing the possession of a few ounces of pot and that kind of thing, I mean, it's just, it's costing us a fortune and it's ruining young people."

farmergiles

Non disrespect meant but maybe it's better to distance oursleves from these nut jobs cannabisnews.com: Robertson Pleases Pot-Legalization Groups

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I don't think he said it out of any moral reasoning. Hemp is as versatile as Ganja. It seems too many are finding out what they took such care in censoring from the media and school books. Educated ignorant "experts" have been making and perpetuating the policy since the early 1900's. Now its a matter of the moneysluts cashing in. Not the growers making fair prohibition prices, taking the risk and jail time. The corporatist, removing it from the people. Not that tricky. Obombo / Congress lowers RxGanja to a schedule #2 same as morphine. Requiring a triplicate, personal contact between physician and pharmacist. Authorizing GW's Sativex and Bayer sublingual raw cannabis spray to enter the US, as its already marketed in Canada and a bid for England. X-Ass.Czar Barthwell has been arranging the deal since she left the DEAth. Obombo has patents on some cannabinoids.

This would... oops. Keep the Ganjawar profits flowing. Keeping homegrown and Buyers clubs illicit, as well as keeping Hemp a schedule #1 narcotic and 98% of the nationwide "marijuana" eradications. At least until the last drop of crude is used. The same old Boosh mentality with Leonhart vowing to keep on busting. Bidons RAVE Ax threatening any gatherings sponsors with $1/4 mil fines and/or forfeiture, confication and cage time. I don't see any reason why we all can't just get along, mind our own affairs with large and small operations prospering and enjoying the fruits of the cannabis plant. Power sucks as bad as it corrupts. Pat told the truth and it made headlines.



The Conservative Argument for Legalization

"I think 'one man, one vote,' just unrestricted democracy, would not be wise. There needs to be some kind of protection for the minority which the white people represent now, a minority, and they need and have a right to demand a protection of their rights."
~ Pat Robertson,
"The 700 Club," 3/18/92
(On Apartheid South Africa)

Ganjawar in Everything

"Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history."
~ Pat Robertson

Soros Monsanto Connection



"The mission of the Christian Coalition is simple," says Pat Robertson. It is "to mobilize Christians -- one precinct at a time, one community at a time -- until once again we are the head and not the tail, and at the top rather than the bottom of our political system." Robertson predicts that "the Christian Coalition will be the most powerful political force in America by the end of this decade." And, "We have enough votes to run this country...and when the people say, 'We've had enough,' we're going to take over!"
--Pat Robertson

Signs of Sickness and D.E.A.th

"We should resist the temptation to identify our religious convictions with the platform of a party or the platitudes of favored politicians."--~ Ralph Reed, 1996

Vices Are Not Crimes

"We want...as soon as possible to see a majority of the Republican Party in the hands of pro-family Christians by 1996."
~ Pat Robertson, Denver Post, 10/26/92

Pat Robertson has said...

"How can there be peace when drunkards, drug dealers, communists, atheists, New Age worshipers of Satan, secular humanists, oppressive dictators, greedy money changers, revolutionary assassins, adulterers, and homosexuals are on top?"--~ Pat Robertson,
The New World Order, p.227

DdC

"The Lord hath sent me to bind up the broken hearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives and the opening of the prison to them that are bound." (Isaiah 61:1)

When does it become justifiable to kill a prohibitionist? That includes the gossip queens spouting unsubstantiated rumors and innuendo. Is killing too harsh for someone intentionally saying things that do harm to others? Do harm to the elderly, sick and even those dying. Crying fire in a crowded theater can cause people harm if they panic and stampede. If killing someone to prevent greater harm is justified, why not those yelling fire in the Ganjawar? Falsely denigrating someone with malice and forethought is a crime. Why not the pigs lying about Ganja? Or the politically correct cowards appeasing the liars?

Giving false statements leading to death or injury is a punishable offense, same thing when prohibs do it. Don't we have laws especially protecting doctors and cops from Perjurious slander potentially leading to the harm of others? Or plane old self defense. If someone is attacking you with lies about Ganja, that lead to injury, trauma or even death. You have the right to protect yourself the same as those breaking into your home. What part of the Constitution does it say I have to pay the salaries of my tormentors?

Profiteers selling lies that do harm are prosecuted when found guilty. Profiteers that pollute or recklessly trash public land are also brought to justice. Except maybe not in Texas. Keeping Hemp a controlled narcotic is doing just that. The truth is known and those hiding it are traitors to America, thats lower than sworn enemies attacking. Intentionally doing harm to a citizen of the US is an act Americans should have no problem standing against. Those who choose to stand by or participate with the lies are as guilty... and lets not barter, hang them too. At least at first as an example.

In an International Ganjawar Tribunal the propagandist, enforcement, Ganjawar brokers and profiteers should be put on trial and that be broadcast to the citizenry of the world. Until then there are two choices. Us or them. On this Christmas "I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword" "I've come to split up families, divide homes, turn father against son, mother against daughter." "Whatever you do to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me. Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils...

“Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit.”
— White House drug czar Gil Kerlikowske,
7/09 Fresno, Calif. press conference

"shall not bear false witness" Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron. Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving. "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge; because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you will be no priest to Me for I desired mercy and not sacrifice."

40 years has kept cannabis in schedule 1 as a deliberate way to deny patients access to medical marijuana. This includes people suffering from asthma, cancer, migraine headache, chronic pain, spasticity, glaucoma, arthritis, or any reason. As a result, people at various locations across the USA have had to risk and suffer years in prison for providing medical marijuana to patients as an act of compassion and personal conscience. What would Jesus do? He chose to break the law in order to heal the sick.
~ Chris Conrad

Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up. Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind, And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch. Not like its a secret. Narcotics police are an enormous, corrupt international bureaucracy ... and now fund a coterie of researchers who provide them with 'scientific support' ... fanatics who distort the legitimate research of others. ... The anti-marijuana campaign is a cancerous tissue of lies, undermining law enforcement, aggravating the drug problem, depriving the sick of needed help, and suckering well-intentioned conservatives and countless frightened parents.
-- William F. Buckley,
Commentary in The National Review, April 29, 1983, p. 495

kamikazi89

http://www.yahooka.com/forum/politic...r-economy.html

whatever happened to that bill in congress anyway?

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stateofkane2

I agree with Pat Robertson on his anti-feminist, somewhat misogynistic views, but his calling for assassinating Chavez should have warranted a mandatory psych evaluation. He is a complete loon.

OldMan&TheWeed

The good news in all of this is that time is on the side of legalization, even though it will likely be a while. However, having people like Robertson come out in support is extremely important. Love him or hate him, the moron evangelicals and blue-hairs follow him like drones, and they listen to what he says. And, he represents the type of people that generally most fervently oppose legalization. If they come around, the dominoes will begin to fall.

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kamikazi89

yea. when it's legalized only then will time will be on your side.
70 years not seeing the light

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