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Old 01-01-2011, 10:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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after a 20 year hiatus , now things are really gonna start getting interesting...

well... ever since the collapse of the cold war americans have been able to smugly laugh at every supposed "threat" to our power out there.

as 60s russian tech became 70s rusting hulks, became 80s repainted rusting 60s tech hulks we could just sit there and think , damn, the prospect of a war (at least one without nukes) is pretty much a joke, the biggest threat to our power was some cardboard cutouts of airplanes and painted on missles on the sides of old ww2 russian ships....


... get ready for that to change.

China's New Missile: A Game Changer? - Investors.com


now after a decade of going from everyone riding bicycles to making all our toys, to making all our steel, to making half way decent airplanes and cars... china is starting to catch up to the point of nipping at our heels.


get ready folks, because we wont be paired up against some painted on russian bs anymore... these new chinese made war machines and missles are gonna be designed using more or less state of the art western tech, by people trained in state of the art western style engineering schools, using state of the art computer systems .... none of which the russians had even in the 80s....

get ready for a huge arms race, because the only way for us to maintain a deterrent is to get our shit together before their 5x population to ours can get their industrial complex fully functioning and pump out 5x the b2 bombers we could every day...


unless we maintain a qualitative edge, just like israel does over its neighbors... china will easily be able to overpower us militarily in the next decade or two....

the sad part is that this new vibrant growing place isnt some bastion of freedom, nor are the wills of the chinese people being directed into some utopian glorious endeavor like we were when we tried to create an empire of liberty and spread freedom to all corners of the world.

sure, we can probably still defend our territory, and if our allies keep up with us, european and nato and the rest's territory as well... but just imagine how much the balance of power in the world is gonna change when china starts rolling out 3 nuclear powered aircraft carriers a year to our 10 nimitz class ones that will be 20+ years old by then and getting older by the year with no replacements in sight...

its like a gutteral reaction, seeing these chinese missle systems, all shiny and new, looking like something boeing or northrop was rolling off the line...except these are for the glorious peoples liberation army as controlled by the communist peoples congress... not for the united world of free democracys trying to promote and defend liberty across the world.



all i can say is, a. this is seriously some scary and fucked up shit, and its only the very beginning of much worse to come. and b. we better concentrate our minds today while we still can because 10 years from now if we havent gotten ourselves on some good programs and in a solid direction to maintain our qualitative edge, we might as well all start learning mandarin and reading daily essays from the book of mao.
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Old 01-02-2011, 06:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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"unless we maintain a qualitative edge, just like israel does over its neighbors... china will easily be able to overpower us militarily in the next decade or two...."

Thats your solution? build more bigger and better weapons with which to remain ourselves the threat?

TBH some times I think you are a paid propagandist troll, now we need to go to war with china nice.

PS: The "Investors.com" article link you put up there results in "page not found".
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Lets nuke them motherfuckers before they get all ballsy on us.
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Old 01-02-2011, 08:41 AM   #4 (permalink)
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the sad part is that this new vibrant growing place isnt some bastion of freedom, nor are the wills of the chinese people being directed into some utopian glorious endeavor like we were when we tried to create an empire of liberty and spread freedom to all corners of the world.
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and pump out 5x the b2 bombers we could every day...
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Dude, the Chinese people are about as fed up with their government as we are with ours.


It'd be a short war as I doubt most folks would show up.





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except these are for the glorious peoples liberation army as controlled by the communist peoples congress...not for the united world of free democracies trying to promote and defend liberty across the world.

You owe me a new monitor as I just spit my rice crispies all over this one after reading your silly little joke there.
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Dude, the Chinese people are about as fed up with their government as we are with ours.


It'd be a short war as I doubt most folks would show up.





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That being said, let us not underestimate the power of threats and/or propaganda. You think the German people would have just said "sign us up!" if they knew what Hitler was up to right from the get go?
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That being said, let us not underestimate the power of threats and/or propaganda. You think the German people would have just said "sign us up!" if they knew what Hitler was up to right from the get go?
Propaganda has been behind every mayor event and has had an impressive record of success since the 1920s after the innovations of Edward Bernays(and family).
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we could still vaporize that entire country if it came to that. (ignoring nuclear winter and all that) we could literally drop a nuke every 10 miles or so and pretty much wipe it off the map.
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oh so we're good then? fuck that

at least the chinese aren't trying to place their actions in the name of freedom or liberty (well they probly are lol, but i mean shit i feel like i dont even know what those terms mean anymore, they just make me think of politics and warfare..)

if china is the one to put the US in its place, then let them take the spotlight... huge thriving consumeristic societies suck anyways. for all i care let the chiney man make him bombs
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