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Old 03-09-2011, 11:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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....first he lands a much higher paying gig on fox when he is let go from npr for not pantamiming its far left nonsense....

....now he can laugh from his 38th floor fox office while vivian schiller hits the unemployment line....


bwahahahahaha....


sorry, its just awesome when shit like this works out so well... sage and the rest of u who talk about karma... this is the finest example of karma ive seen this week.
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ok i read the "article" but im not really getting what this is about or why it is interesting.
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well thats why i posted the vid


..... whatever your political views, or other views.... they totally fuckin punkd that dude .... i cant belive he would just open up and say such outrageous shit and he was being filmed clearly and in a high quality way.... what a fuckin idiot this guy is.

i dont even really care if what he said about npr is true. people know they are liberal and shit.... i just think this sting, and catching that dude in the act is one of the funniest things ive seen this year. he totally acted as if he was in some private house with old friends....instead he was literally being punked while he was saying that stuff.... talk about a 'doh' moment.
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@Terry: Watch this, them zionists keep appearing everywhere man, I think their in my head...
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i dont even really care if what he said about npr is true.
Well ain't that the problem to begin with? Blind fool.
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no im saying the revelation isnt that npr is liberal and anti-republican and pro-radical muslim..... and that they are so blatantly so that they would open up and say stuff like that to people they had only just met...


but i think the funnyness of the sting is more important than the actual facts here because everyone knew npr was liberal already.
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juan was the guy who had a problem with people being "Muslims first", you know, dressed in the garb and all. He deserved to get his bigoted ass fired.
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no im saying the revelation isnt that npr is liberal and anti-republican and pro-radical muslim..... and that they are so blatantly so that they would open up and say stuff like that to people they had only just met...


but i think the funnyness of the sting is more important than the actual facts here because everyone knew npr was liberal already.
I think you didn't get the video, or you missed out on a lot of stuff, go watch it again and pay attention. Specially after he takes his "NPR hat" off.

Here is my summary of the video:

First, the only reason this guy got "punkd" was his greed, he started talking before he even knew who this group of muslims represented, why? Because he was discretely offered $5million :58 seconds into the video. After that you just get 10 minutes of truth coming from the mouth of the president of national PUBLIC radio.

Did you get what the woman meant when she talked about the camps? She said "We've done it before" meaning purposefully.

The federal funding?

The small percentage of educated people?

zionists?

there was so much shit on that little video, wish politicians would get punkd often.
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juan was the guy who had a problem with people being "Muslims first", you know, dressed in the garb and all. He deserved to get his bigoted ass fired.
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oh u gaiz.... come on now, u know its funny and ridiculous....
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Oh u gaiz... come on now, like always, focus on this matter that doesn't really matter.
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oh u gaiz.... come on now, u know its funny and ridiculous....
You are projecting again....
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Oh u gaiz... come on now, like always, focus on this matter that doesn't really matter.
well it actually does matter to a fairly significant extent i was just making light of a funny aspect of it.
it bodes pretty poorly for a particular strand of uber liberal...certainly doesnt reflect very kindly on them, example- altho i like a person like rachel maddow somewhat as a journalist she also clearly has some of the same attitude this guy does- some others are similar too...

its like Juan Williams said in what will probably become a famous catchphrase attributed to him.... "its like you were tuning the radio to just the right frequency and you got the truth..."


http://video.foxnews.com/v/4575621/n...-party-part-1/http://video.foxnews.com/v/4575621/n...-party-part-1/


here you go, great vid, just ignore hannity u know, im not trying to rep him its juan im after.

go to 3:50 for juans analysis of how u find a persons real thoughts... pretty damn good metaphor for that mothafucka.... props ! but good points too. check it out. juan was long respected as a semi liberal reporter on npr and what was done to him was not just shameful but straight up retarded and ridiculous... he said he was against bigotry and profiling in the same exact statement that 'got him fired' anyone who watches that video stoneric my man , can see that for themselves...
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....first he lands a much higher paying gig on fox when he is let go from npr for not pantamiming its far left nonsense....
by this useage/word choice: What are you saying?

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sorry, its just awesome when shit like this works out so well... sage and the rest of u who talk about karma... this is the finest example of karma ive seen this week.
Since you used my name , and I feel put words in my mouth, I'll reply to this part as well. I don't feel that I say or have said that I feel karma works in this manner of 'Universal Judge'.

I don't believe I've ever cited to you that 'karma is going to get you'. My apologies if that was unclear.

Where does my name come into this for you?

Karma: To me, This is essentially 'Action-Effect', although singularly the word means 'Action' or 'Deed' throughout Dharma Religions, born of India.

Every action we take does something.... there is no inaction in my understanding.

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....now he can laugh from his 38th floor fox office while vivian schiller hits the unemployment line....

bwahahahahaha....
Possibly irony about this action if we are summoning karma in a 'revenge-like' light? ????

To me that isn't how Karma works. If you are thinking these thoughts (that are action) you'll see the world this way.

An example from the Dhammapada:

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All that we are arises with our thoughts.
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"Look how he abused me and hurt me,
How he threw me down and robbed me."
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How he threw me down and robbed me."
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To me THAT is how karma (cause-effect) works in my experience of it.

'Seek and ye shall find' in other words.

Or as my Great Grandfather used to say "Of course when you stir shit it's stink"

Citing karma is like saying "He did it because he's alive", when really, it's a lot more complicated than that


For now, I'm not even going to address the issue at hand, because I've likely wasted too much time typing out something you won't read and-or respond to.


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... he said he was against bigotry and profiling in the same exact statement that 'got him fired' anyone who watches that video stoneric my man , can see that for themselves...
If you preface your bigoted statement with "I'm not a bigot....", it doesn't make it any less bigoted.
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by this useage/word choice: What are you saying?





Since you used my name , and I feel put words in my mouth, I'll reply to this part as well. I don't feel that I say or have said that I feel karma works in this manner of 'Universal Judge'.

I don't believe I've ever cited to you that 'karma is going to get you'. My apologies if that was unclear.

Where does my name come into this for you?

Karma: To me, This is essentially 'Action-Effect', although singularly the word means 'Action' or 'Deed' throughout Dharma Religions, born of India.

Every action we take does something.... there is no inaction in my understanding.



Possibly irony about this action if we are summoning karma in a 'revenge-like' light? ????

To me that isn't how Karma works. If you are thinking these thoughts (that are action) you'll see the world this way.

An example from the Dhammapada:



To me THAT is how karma (cause-effect) works in my experience of it.

'Seek and ye shall find' in other words.

Or as my Great Grandfather used to say "Of course when you stir shit it's stink"

Citing karma is like saying "He did it because he's alive", when really, it's a lot more complicated than that


For now, I'm not even going to address the issue at hand, because I've likely wasted too much time typing out something you won't read and-or respond to.


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well thanks for the in depth commentary on karma sage. i was just using it loosely in the sense that juan was treated so poorly by npr and now npr is getting its comeuppance.... but u have opened my eyes to new vistas in the meaning of karma and ill try to be more precise next time.

i only used your name because of the association in my mind between u and eastern religions/philosophy and sitch.
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well thanks for the in depth commentary on karma sage. i was just using it loosely in the sense that juan was treated so poorly by npr and now npr is getting its comeuppance.... but u have opened my eyes to new vistas in the meaning of karma and ill try to be more precise next time.

i only used your name because of the association in my mind between u and eastern religions/philosophy and sitch.

Coolsville John.... I'd say I rather elaborately ducked the topic at hand then.

Nah.. seriously... glad you didn't mind the tangent, but I DID put that 'you won't reply' in there as a hook No ill will though dewd

It's fair enough though. Words are to be played with, and have weight put on them for many reasons fairly and unfairly. It's not always the users fault for vernacular and social meanings.

I figured that is why you mentioned me honestly though.
I just saw that as my platform for my fascist neo-con liberal hippie agenda


ON TOPIC:


I don't remember how exactly Juan put his ideas that got him in trouble out there, but in this instance, I'd have to say this was a pretty 'interesting' way to collect information and present it......



I really think they just caught a bullshitter bullshitting, just like every other executive, money maker, etc.... etc...., cork sucking, ice hole, bastage, trying to sell some body or get their money, which happens every day in the business word.... to over generalize and piss in someone cornflakes....





My conclusion... BOTH of these dude are racist pricks
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that really is a shame for people to think that though.

a year ago, juan was the liberal foil on fox.

he was deliberately there to represent the liberal viewpoint, like alan colmes used to be.

the whole thing with npr was straight up totally uncalled for.

i can post the vid of the original controversy if u want.... u have to look at juan williams in his totality.... this isnt sean hannity saying 'i feel nervous when i see people in muslim garb on planes'.... its juan williams... the guy who argues obamas position all the time, the guy who tries to make liberal positions seem moderate to fox news people- i love juan because he reminds me of me- a person who is kind of an out-of-the-box type of person who believes in one side but is also constantly trying to doubt his own infailibility and also constanstly trying to explain why he thinks what he does to others who are inclined to disagree.

so now we see that npr didnt actually have much to say about juan.... their whole "reason for firing him", which this new video makes clear, has to do with their crazy fox-hate and republican-hate that they feel so strongly about they will tell it to anyone who cares to hear- even people they just randomly met.... so npr didnt like that juan wasnt an elitist liberal who would basically look down on all republicans the same way they did- he was willing , instead, to work in the trenches and try to change some minds and bring them around to what he believes which is still fairly liberal.


so the worst part about the situation was how liberals threw a moderate liberal under the bus... and the best part about how this worked out is that juan came out on top- so the person who tries to bridge gaps between people won over the people who try to sit in their ivory towers and look down their long noses at the other side with raging contempt.

his comment about feeling uncomfortable when he sees people in full muslim garb on a plane.... the very next word was but i realize this is an irrational feeling which i shouldnt be having... but i do just the same....

this was a feeling that many have.... he was trying to argue with people on fox when he said that- so what good would it have been to just be like ariana huffington and say oh boo hoo we cant be rascist.... he was trying to explain to right wing and right-moderate people who watch fox, why its wrong to feel that way even tho by instinct u might feel that way- if u ask me- he was totally trying to have a good forward looking conversation about tolerance and how to improve your tolerance of others by trying to analyze how it came about in the first place- far from being a bigot, like stoneric keeps saying... this makes him like a better person than most of the left and most of the right that doesnt even try to see eye to eye- he was trying to bring people around and trying to show how even tho he "had an instinct of being worried on a plane after 9.11 when he saw people in full muslim garb' but he also realized that 'having those views was unfair to the many innocent muslims who would never commit terrorism"....

his position is something that i wouldnt even necesarily be behind 100% - because its quite left-moderate a view.... but the fact is, he was doing like the equivalent of a public service announcement, far from trying to make bigoted statements with his fox cronies like the npr execs tried to make it seem.

this is what we do in our society to people who try to be moderate and in the middle- they are called scabs by the left and radical terrorists by the right.... i think people who try to talk to those on the other side who are likely to disagree with them, and who speak honestly and openly in the name of trying to expand tolerance , should be rewarded and praised.... juan should get some prize for increasing tolerance and promoting inter-faith discussion, instead some people who dont even know the story call him out as some traitor to liberals....despite his long career in service of mostly liberal interests.... its just crazy how they threw him under the bus.... but when u hear ron schiller talk u begin to understand why it happened- they are the xenophobic and crazy ones...
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it would be like if i said that shirley sherrod was actually being racist towards whites when she talked about not helping a white farmer in her story.... i can try to sell that to people who didnt follow it closely.... but with just a little understanding of subtlety i can plainly see that she was trying to have a reasonable discussion about the history of racism in america, and her example was meant as a learning story not to be taken literally.
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