Štulic

Even before the street had been cleared, however, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee blasted an email out to its supporters in a crass attempt to raise money off the attack:

AIPAC Immediately Fundraises Off Jerusalem Bombing | Political Correction

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Roach

this shit really needs to end.


Israel doesn't need or deserve american support.

there needs to be a freaking resolution on that !

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zerodown

Wrong roach, Israel is the one supporting america, without their money what would america be? We just defend them(militarily) and agree to their stupid shit(palestine occupation) cause we NEED their money.

If you make a resolution to stop supporting them, they'll just retrieve their money from our economy and yoou'll witness something greater than the great depression.

And you thought slavery was abolished eh?

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The Rev

I think more people died of the flu that day in Israel, than from that bomb.

Jeez. I don't know how much more bullshit I can take.



The Rev

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Štulic

I've read many skewed comments in this forum during the years, but yours is (hopefully) borderline sarcastic at least.

Sometimes I just have to explain it to my friends and people I talk to about the issue normally, the usual response is we should just nuke the fucking little strip and solve EVERYTHING.
Everyone reckons it'd be easier to deal with the consequences then with the macabre continuation of instability and growth of zionist arrogance.

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Roach

lol


Benefits to Israel of U.S. Aid
Since 1949 (As of November 1, 1997)

Foreign Aid Grants and Loans
$74,157,600,000

Other U.S. Aid (12.2% of Foreign Aid)
$9,047,227,200

Interest to Israel from Advanced Payments
$1,650,000,000

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Total Benefits per Israeli
$14,630

Cost to U.S. Taxpayers of U.S.
Aid to Israel

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Interest Costs Borne by U.S.
$49,936,680,000

Total Cost to U.S. Taxpayers
$134,791,507,200

Total Cost per Israeli
$23,240


Total U.S. aid to Israel is approximately one-third of the American foreign- aid budget, even though Israel comprises just .001 percent of the world's population and already has one of the world's higher per capita incomes. Indeed, Israel's GNP is higher than the combined GNP of Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, the West Bank and Gaza. With a per capita income of about $14,000, Israel ranks as the sixteenth wealthiest country in the world; Israelis enjoy a higher per capita income than oil-rich Saudi Arabia and are only slightly less well-off than most Western European countries.


US Financial Aid To Israel - Figures, Facts And Impact

The Cost of Israel to US Taxpayers


Israel’s use of US foreign aid violates US law which states “No assistance [ought to be given] to countries that violate human rights”. But the money is frequently used to finance the building of the Wall and the purchasing of weapons that continue the Occupation of Palestine. Furthermore, the US stipulates that military aid is to be used only for “legitimate” defense: Israeli forces have killed over 3, 000 Palestinian civilians since 2001.

Palestine Monitor - US approves plan to increase


and if you can stomach any more...scroll down to this chart in the link below...

U.S. Foreign Aid Summary

nuff said


now give me some figures on how much Israel pays to America.

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zerodown

Official statistics lol...

where are the israeli lobbying figures? where are the figures of the biggest corps(owned by zionists)? where are the figures of media control? They own america, if official statistics show us helping them, the reality is that they serve themselves.

"No hay peor ciego que el que no quiere ver"



But oh well, if the official info says im a nut then im a nut...

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Not everything we hear is the truth
Not everything we're taught helps us grow
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"La locura se lleva en la cabeza y las drogas en los bolsillos"
~Roberto Iniesta

Roach

find em ...post em.


own america, hardly.

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zerodown

If Im wrong, where is the logic behind our stance on the israel/palestine issue? explain that one to me.

If Im wrong, make sense of that "giant aid" we "give" them?

BTW, if that aid is anything like the "aid" the US sends us(puerto rico) then I bet you israeli citizens aren't seeing a dime and every penny goes back to the rich man.

Don't thrust statistics just like that, look at reality, look at the whole, look at how everything ties together.

Cause and effect.

Also: http://www.mediamonitors.net/khodr49.html

by Mohamed Khodr

On October 3, 2001, I.A.P. News reported that according to Israel Radio (in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael an acrimonious argument erupted during the Israeli cabinet weekly session last week between Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and his foreign Minister Shimon Peres. Peres warned Sharon that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and "turn the US against us. "Sharon reportedly yelled at Peres, saying "don't worry about American pressure, we the Jewish people control America."

"The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate."

-- Senator Fullbright, Chair of Senate Foreign Relations Committee: 10/07/1973 on CBS' "Face the Nation".

"I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews..... terrific control the Jews have over the news media and the barrage the Jews have built up on congressmen .... I am very much concerned over the fact that the Jewish influence here is completely dominating the scene and making it almost impossible to get congress to do anything they don't approve of. The Israeli embassy is practically dictating to the congress through influential Jewish people in the country"

-----Sec. of State John Foster Dulles quoted on p.99 of Fallen Pillars by Donald Neff

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We have to learn to unlearn
Its not contradiction, its amendment
Not everything we see is reality
Not everything we hear is the truth
Not everything we're taught helps us grow
~Cultura Profetica

"La locura se lleva en la cabeza y las drogas en los bolsillos"
~Roberto Iniesta

zerodown

MUST READ:

The Israeli occupation of America:How Israel Gained Control of American Foreign Policy and Public Opinion

By Hesham Tillawi, PhD

”Israel need not apologize for the assassination or destruction of those who seek to destroy it. The first order of business for any country is the protection of its people.”Washington Jewish Week, October 9, 1997

I came from a country occupied militarily by Israel to the land of “the free and the brave” only to find out it too was occupied politically by Israel.

ALSO: ConspiracyPenPal Newsletter

It's the Jews, Stupid!!!

by Edgar J. Steele

October 7, 2002

"Those who control the present control the past.
Those who control the past control the future.”
----George Orwell, 1984 (published in 1949)

Jews are the problem.

Jews have been the problem since before they saw to the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, in fact.

Now they are bent upon World War III, just as they fomented so many of last century's wars.

Books, indeed, libraries, have been written on this topic. I scarcely know where to begin.

If you don't see jews as being at least part of the problem, then you are seriously misinformed and wandering in extreme self delusion. I won't even try to deal with you in this essay below this level. Go do your elementary research, then come back, because we don't even speak the same language as yet.

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We have to learn to unlearn
Its not contradiction, its amendment
Not everything we see is reality
Not everything we hear is the truth
Not everything we're taught helps us grow
~Cultura Profetica

"La locura se lleva en la cabeza y las drogas en los bolsillos"
~Roberto Iniesta

Xil

Its people like you that make the zionists calls of anti-semitism effective. On behalf of my jewish friends, fuck the hell off.

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zerodown

Ignorance is bliss...

PS: Those aren't my words, its part of the eassy I linked to, did you read it? or are you expressin an opinion about something you haven't read?

PSS: I don't give a fuck about your jewish friends, im a goy, duh... on behalf of my palestinian friends fuck the hell off...

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We have to learn to unlearn
Its not contradiction, its amendment
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Not everything we hear is the truth
Not everything we're taught helps us grow
~Cultura Profetica

"La locura se lleva en la cabeza y las drogas en los bolsillos"
~Roberto Iniesta

Xil

Doesn't matter if its from an article or your words, putting it in your post that way gives it your tacit agreement. And no i didn't read the entire article, i've read enough racist tripe before (including yours) to be able to spot it and not have to waste my time. I'm pro-palestine, and i came to that conclusion from reading legitimate (try al-jazeera for instance) not bigoted sources, i dont have to rely on bullshit the jews killed jesus arguments.

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zerodown

If you didn't read it then i don't give a fuck about what you say about it. Your opinion about something you haven't read is of no relevance, its like me trying to talk about how to do a heart transplant operation, i didn't read the book, sorry.

Also: "i've read enough racist tripe before (including yours)"

lol, me racist? Never assume, when you assume you make an ASS of U and ME.

Who exactly do I hate? Jews? I don't hate Jews, I hate some people that just happen to be jewish. Don't confuse one thing with the other. Me racist, pfft... Jews on the other hand are racist, to them Im a goy, now that is racist.

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We have to learn to unlearn
Its not contradiction, its amendment
Not everything we see is reality
Not everything we hear is the truth
Not everything we're taught helps us grow
~Cultura Profetica

"La locura se lleva en la cabeza y las drogas en los bolsillos"
~Roberto Iniesta

Xil

You say you dont hate jews, just some people who are jewish, than you go on and post stuff like this
and make a sweeping generalization about all jews. it would be like me saying non-jewish people are stupid and lazy...but no i dont hate goys, just certain goys...

ya, fuck you twice.

the Palestinians deserve better allies than the likes of you.

on a more positive note i like this cartoon, i think you posted it in the political cartoon thread

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Clip from a Documentary by an Israeli Jew...showcasing the farce of antisemitism.

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zerodown

I made no such generalization, do you even know what "Goy" means? I didn't make it up, here read the wiki-wiki-washed-down-pedia version, its a real word, its not a racist comment.

Have you read the Talmud?

Besides, anything can be twisted into a racist comment these days, just to be clear, to me a racist is a person who feels hate towards a specific ethnic group, I hate none yet, how many do you hate?

PS: The image was about reality, not about hate. The reality is that anyone trying to defend Palestine get their mouths shut, blocked from media, treated as anti-semites(just like you are assuming of me), ridiculed, not about hating jews, lol, your interpretation of art is way off.

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We have to learn to unlearn
Its not contradiction, its amendment
Not everything we see is reality
Not everything we hear is the truth
Not everything we're taught helps us grow
~Cultura Profetica

"La locura se lleva en la cabeza y las drogas en los bolsillos"
~Roberto Iniesta

Xil

No i actually agree with the picture. I HAVE been called an anti-semite for my pro-palestine beliefs. people use the anti-semite argument to derail the conversation and ignore the logical conclusion that israel and the us (for its support of israel) is in the wrong.

that doesnt change the fact that real anti-semitism is wrong and you are an anti-semite. When you make a statement about saying jews this and jews that you are making sweeping generalizations. i guess jewish isnt a race, so your not technically racist, but you are still a bigot

and yes i do knwo what goy means, what does that change?

edit: and if you think i somehow hate any ethic group you obviously do not know me and haven't read my posts

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zerodown

I don't think you hate anyone, that is why I asked. YOU are the one thinking I'm a racist antisemite telling me to fuck off because you disagree with me, way to uphold freedom of speech.

Oh and what would be the best way to make reference to people of jewish descent? Because "jew" seems to offend them.

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We have to learn to unlearn
Its not contradiction, its amendment
Not everything we see is reality
Not everything we hear is the truth
Not everything we're taught helps us grow
~Cultura Profetica

"La locura se lleva en la cabeza y las drogas en los bolsillos"
~Roberto Iniesta

zerodown

From the conspiracypenpal newsletter linkwritten in 2002)

"What, you didn't know that all the jews in political power in the US today are also Israeli citizens? Just ask Ari Fleischer, Bush's spokesman, or Paul Wolfowitz, Perle, Libby, Adelman, Satloff, Kissinger, Luttwak, Feith, Zakheim, Abrams, Grossman, Haass, Zoelick, Schlesinger, Sembler, Chertoff, Bolton, Greenspan, Goldsmith, Golden, Gersten, Gildenhorn, Weinberger, Bodman, Cohen, Davis, Bloomfield, Lefkowitz, Frum, Melman, Blakeman...all jewish and all running things in Washington. Names from today's newspapers.

Even Colin Powell has a jewish forebear; he grew up in a jewish neighborhood and speaks Yiddish (didn't know that, did you?). His family was shabbas goy for the jews (did their forbidden work on the sabbath).

The price for the White House? Selling out to jewish interests. That's why the so-called War on Terror. That's how Bush came from nowhere and coasted to the Presidency. He, Clinton before him and most of the presidents of modern times are traitors, pure and simple. They sold their country, including you and me, for a turn at the trough. Yes, you heard me right: George Bush is a traitor.

Why in the world does America have to share Israel's fate, simply because the jews want to eject the Palestinians from all of Palestine today? Why do American boys have to die to advance Israel's interests, when Israel's boys do everything they can to shirk the call of duty during war (did you know the malingering coward slapped by Patton was jewish?)?

Why does America lionize people like Clinton and Bush, both of whom dodged the draft? Shabbas goy...that's all they are."

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We have to learn to unlearn
Its not contradiction, its amendment
Not everything we see is reality
Not everything we hear is the truth
Not everything we're taught helps us grow
~Cultura Profetica

"La locura se lleva en la cabeza y las drogas en los bolsillos"
~Roberto Iniesta