The Rev

Legalizing marijuana: ‘The war’s over’ | Daily Bulldog

Looks like those legalization people just won't leave it alone.



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DdC

Looks like those Narkofascists people just won't leave it alone either.

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SageTree

Legalizing herb is good for the state budgets, no doubt.

Not taxes, but rather the cutting back on law enforcement and unneeded court proceedings.

If there are laws about how much herb and how many plants... etc.... I feel it makes it easier to prosecute the people, if so 'necessary', who stand outside that 'legal' limit, rather that busting Joe Quarter-Sack and his handful of plants or a citizen w/ a dispensary grower license.

If you can't appeal to their sense of reason.... try appealing to their cents worth of reason.

Hard times call for aiming Higher.

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John F. Kerry

here is a small sampling of the kind of dialogue that goes on on "hard core right wing" fox.... maybe this will help u guys who dont follow this stuff about how fox and the right wing talk about this issue.... they definately dont just take the "anti drug" stance they try to have meaningful debates and bill is asking imo good questions to ask about it-

theres another clip recently when he said he was sure it was gonna get legalized but i couldnt find that.


what u gotta understand is that bill having this dude on his show is IN ITSELF proof of open mindedness- bill keeps interupting etc... but just like the way i talk to u guys on here- i think the fact that hes got people with very different opinions and they all say what they think loudly and not being afraid of what the others will say.... this is the best way to get a kernel of truth and to get the real story... if it was a segment on msnbc dylan rattigan would have 4 liberal people who all sit there and say oh my goooosh how can these draconian drug laws continue, and the rest of them would just nod at each other- is it any wonder why 5x as many people watch fox.

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John F. Kerry

and heres mr president

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SageTree

O'Reilly "You can spin data anyway you want to" .... yes... yes you can O-rly.




Obama's aim to me is working within the system before it can be changed further, which is a conservative maneuver, but still forward.


What are you all opinions on Legalizing vs. Decrim?

Will herb be handled in the same way as booze behind the wheel or partaking in public?

As it effects the mind it's not booze and it's not a tobacco....

Can there be 'legal' limits of intoxication?

How does that get handled?

So how do you all see the responsible use and regulations playing out in these two scenarios?

Just getting some talk going here.....

Personally, I'd like to keep a couple of plants for myself, not be worried to smoke in public, but really know better when it comes to driving after a point, especially with how good the herb I've smoked is lately.

There are health concerns, but if they really wanted to crack down on that.... they'd close McDonald's and make cigs nearly unaffordable.... so really to me, it's my garden... no one taxes my squash or corn or fruit to make wine from, so fuck off!

Don't sell it to kids.

Don't send Joe Quater-Bag the personal grower-user to jail or even mess with him unless there is some legal infraction... which will be far more sensible than what we are faced with today.

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DdC

Legalization bill dies in Washington state
Drug War Chronicle

The bill had the support of the entire Seattle legislative delegation, as well as the Seattle Times editorial board. But that wasn’t enough to move it out of committee.

The legislature’s failure to act clears the way for an effort to take the issue directly to the voters. Sensible Washington is already gathering signatures for a legalization initiative to go before the voters in November.

Let’s hope that they can get the signatures collected. Here’s the Sensible Washington site.

I’ll take your 21 minutes and lower it to 19 seconds

The Rev

The anti-drug people have held sway for 80 years, so I expect them to stomp on new laws like roaches (no pun intended). However, the fact that the opposition keeps coming back and coming back is what impresses me. Watching a fight go on and on, with the underdog refusing to lie down, is what gets the public thinking about what side they are on.

Unfortunately, you have to change people's feelings before you can reach their minds. They aren't going to listen to reason, but they will listen to their own sentiments.



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There are always a few, better endowed than others, who feel the weight of the yoke and cannot restrain themselves from attempting to shake it off.... These are in fact the men who, possessed of clear minds and far-sighted spirit, are not satisfied, like the brutish mass, to see only what is at their feet, but rather look about them, behind and before, and even recall the things of the past in order to judge those of the future, and compare both with their present condition. These are the ones who, having good minds of their own, have further trained them by study and learning. Even if liberty had entirely perished from the earth, such men would reinvent it. For them slavery has no satisfactions, no matter how well disguised.
--Etienne de la Boetie, The Discourse of Voluntary Servitude

I still get a kick out of these springing up as quick as the hundreds of buyers clubs.
American ingenuity has gone underground...