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Old 04-08-2011, 06:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Brain structure differs in liberals, conservatives: study

Brain structure differs in liberals, conservatives: study - Yahoo! News

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WASHINGTON (AFP) – Everyone knows that liberals and conservatives butt heads when it comes to world views, but scientists have now shown that their brains are actually built differently.

Liberals have more gray matter in a part of the brain associated with understanding complexity, while the conservative brain is bigger in the section related to processing fear, said the study on Thursday in Current Biology.

"We found that greater liberalism was associated with increased gray matter volume in the anterior cingulate cortex, whereas greater conservatism was associated with increased volume of the right amygdala," the study said.
Other research has shown greater brain activity in those areas, according to which political views a person holds, but this is the first study to show a physical difference in size in the same regions.

"Previously, some psychological traits were known to be predictive of an individual's political orientation," said Ryota Kanai of the University College London, where the research took place.

"Our study now links such personality traits with specific brain structure."
The study was based on 90 "healthy young adults" who reported their political views on a scale of one to five from very liberal to very conservative, then agreed to have their brains scanned.

People with a large amygdala are "more sensitive to disgust" and tend to "respond to threatening situations with more aggression than do liberals and are more sensitive to threatening facial expressions," the study said.
Liberals are linked to larger anterior cingulate cortexes, a region that "monitor(s) uncertainty and conflicts," it said.

"Thus, it is conceivable that individuals with a larger ACC have a higher capacity to tolerate uncertainty and conflicts, allowing them to accept more liberal views."

It remains unclear whether the structural differences cause the divergence in political views, or are the effect of them.

But the central issue in determining political views appears to revolve around fear and how it affects a person.

"Our findings are consistent with the proposal that political orientation is associated with psychological processes for managing fear and uncertainty," the study said.
Its like that phrase...."something we've always known but now is scientifically verifiable."
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fairly invalid study without knowing who paid for the results.

but it sounds like bulllshit to me.

If this person had stated certain people with altered brain patterns/brain damage tend to become politicians, I might say ok.

liberal, conservative, nazi...these are all learned , you're not born a republican/democrat.

In fact very few things are truely "genetic"




be patient, explanation starts @ 9:19...there's no such thing as human nature.
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So what did obomba's brain look like before and after the election?
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before , successful african american senator

after, failing american president ?

quite a change.
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the most retarded part about this is that before 9/11 being a republican had nothing to do with fear. and now, i guess you can say it has something to do with fear (the fear that we are at war with islamic terrorists) but really that study is so absurd as to be laughable.

when kennedy was president, democrats were "afraid" of the soviets just as much as anyone else...


today, democrats are "scared" and "afraid" that republicans will take away their social wellfare programs.


and the union madness in wisconsin proved that dems were living in deep deep fear of having their union benefits taken away....


so what is this about the "republican brain being more amenable to fear".... lol if that fear is of things that are considered republican ideas....if they are afraid of things that cause them to think like liberals it must be a different kind of fear....of course, it has to do with being smart versus being dumb....


this entire idea is ridiculous, but it fits in with one stereotype of liberal people for sure, that they always think they are so much better than other people.
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This reminds me of those "studies" they did on the brains and cranial capacities of black people vs. white, in an attempt to prove the inferiority of blacks.

There's definitely a different mindset to conservatism and liberalism, but as a person whose views have run the gamut over the course of his life, I can tell you that anger and fear can drive both views, and tend to be more correllated with the intensity of the viewpoint, and not its position on the political spectrum.

In fact, I would say this is true of ANY position one takes (political, religious, racial, etc.); the more seriously they take their views, the more fearful and angry they are likely to be.



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This struck me, at first, as another situation like Rev said, to prove the superiority of one over the other.

After thinking about it for a few and reading between the lines, this may not be an invalid study after all.

The main problem, to me, is that the study was of 90, healthy young people. That's a pretty small specific group. I also want to see the original study and all that shit before I make a decision.
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the most retarded part about this is that before 9/11 being a republican had nothing to do with fear. and now, i guess you can say it has something to do with fear (the fear that we are at war with islamic terrorists) but really that study is so absurd as to be laughable.

when kennedy was president, democrats were "afraid" of the soviets just as much as anyone else...


today, democrats are "scared" and "afraid" that republicans will take away their social wellfare programs.


and the union madness in wisconsin proved that dems were living in deep deep fear of having their union benefits taken away....


so what is this about the "republican brain being more amenable to fear".... lol if that fear is of things that are considered republican ideas....if they are afraid of things that cause them to think like liberals it must be a different kind of fear....of course, it has to do with being smart versus being dumb....


this entire idea is ridiculous, but it fits in with one stereotype of liberal people for sure, that they always think they are so much better than other people.
Here's a newsflash: republicans recieve social welfare, belong to unions and think they're "so much better than other people".
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this is funny
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This is such a retarded study...
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The most important point of note deleted from that study is that, equally, their brains had the highest level of blood flow to the area that controls love...




of money.

Inversely, the give-a-shit-about-the-public portion of their brains had atrophied to the point of near non existence.
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oddly enough, the same area of the brain that's affected by coke.

it's an addiction.
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To be honest this whole study sounds like a 21st Century snooty liberal version of Eugenics.

I think focusing on conservative arguments and the fallacies in those arguments is more effective than a blanket statement like "they are all just scared".
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the most retarded part about this is that before 9/11 being a republican had nothing to do with fear. and now, i guess you can say it has something to do with fear (the fear that we are at war with islamic terrorists) but really that study is so absurd as to be laughable.

when kennedy was president, democrats were "afraid" of the soviets just as much as anyone else...


today, democrats are "scared" and "afraid" that republicans will take away their social wellfare programs.


and the union madness in wisconsin proved that dems were living in deep deep fear of having their union benefits taken away....


so what is this about the "republican brain being more amenable to fear".... lol if that fear is of things that are considered republican ideas....if they are afraid of things that cause them to think like liberals it must be a different kind of fear....of course, it has to do with being smart versus being dumb....


this entire idea is ridiculous, but it fits in with one stereotype of liberal people for sure, that they always think they are so much better than other people.
this post is afraid of the truth. fear the study which provides information on a previous unknown topic. fear science and fear academics. they are up too something i know it. you shouldn't trust them because they are scary.
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Fear mongering will always be a part of politics, because it sells even better than sex (although it seems that the conservative element is trying that one too).



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Conservatives Have Larger 'Fear Centers' in Their Brains

Brain structure differs in liberals, conservatives: study
Liberals have more gray matter in a part of the brain associated with understanding complexity, while the conservative brain is bigger in the section related to processing fear, said the study on Thursday in Current Biology.



Study: Conservatives Have Larger 'Fear Centers' in Their Brains
British study shows conservatives' brains tend to have larger amygdalas, which responsible for primitive emotions.

Conservatives' brains have larger amygdalas than the brains of liberals. Amygdalas are responsible for fear and other "primitive" emotions. At the same time, conservatives' brains were also found to have a smaller anterior cingulate -- the part of the brain responsible for courage and optimism.

OK and a so what's the problem? Sounds about right to me mon.
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But the most insidious one, the most insidious scheme for permanence, the one that really strikes me, is the use of deficit spending by the right. OK, now, I don’t have a problem with deficit spending. You know, it’s—liberals have used it for decades very effectively. You know, it’s—if you’re a Keynesian—you know, it’s one of the tools that you use to, say, you know, get the country out of a recession or, you know, build low-income housing, or whatever it is that you want to do with the state, right? So, but the conservatives got into power in the early 1980s, and they’re handed this tool, the big old—you know, the power tool of deficit spending, and I’ll be damned, they run that sucker right into the ground, you know, and pile up the biggest deficit anyone has ever seen, short of, you know, World War II.

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An article on the Bivings web site, titled "Viral Marketing: How to Infect the World," originally recommended covert and deceptive Internet activity, "there are some campaigns where it would be undesirable or even disastrous to let the audience know that your organisation is directly involved... it simply is not an intelligent PR move. In cases such as this, it is important to first 'listen' to what is being said online... Once you are plugged into this world, it is possible to make postings to these outlets that present your position as an uninvolved third party... Perhaps the greatest advantage of viral marketing is that your message is placed into a context where it is more likely to be considered seriously.... Sometimes, we win awards. Sometimes only the client knows the precise role we played." After this message was criticized publicly, Bivings removed the offending passages, placing a note at the bottom of the article that states, "Recently edited for clarification." continued...



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The kids have a better shot at understanding reality.
The adults are either ingrained in reefer madness or censored books.
leaving them fighting to protect their own vested ignorance.
At least you don't have to un-teach the kids...
... and oh how the academia gnash their teeth defending their sheepskins.
The "expert" denialists and appeasers proud of their compromises of reality.

Think of the message being sent to the kids? - 11/11/05

If the goal was to tell the truth or use facts that live in the real world of Science. Or actually want an informed public. This is a cycle of disinformation that pops up randomly. Using the same list of tired boring reefer madness. Always what it will do and never what has it done. Each decade fabricating the symptoms to the times. Racism and xenophobic headlines getting it started. Murderous rampages dragged out of the Gore files in the war years to brainwashed commie bait in the 50's and lazy commie bait hippies in the 60's. 80's Rayguns swore it caused worse brain damage than getting nuked. Then his piss test entrepreneur drug czar said it lead to Gayville and therefore caused AIDS. Of coarse lung cancer seemed obvious until their own tests proved otherwise. Same with tobacco being lumped in with chemical cigarettes. When they demonize it matters not what they say or do or the results of their actions. They're cogs in a machine and humans are irrelevant.



More potent than Yo Momma's. Lil cancer sticks. It's all BS to keep the corporations competition free. Many might convert if legal but why press it as long as the status quo they sell is making profits. Hemp replacing Cotton and 90 million pounds of aborting poisons, not sold for Hemp. Hemp replacing Trees for wood and paper. Hemp plastic instead of OPEC crude oil. That is a direct hit to the Koch's and Boosh/Cheney Empire. Along with their drug ties "treating" the cancer caused by the other enterprises. Hempseed omega 3, 6 and 9 efa's worry meat, dairy and fish. Hemp oil skin care and stimulating the immune system to industrial base for paints and the best furniture polish. Now after damaging thousands of kids with lead based crude oil paint we have to clean up their mess. Like cleaning up Exxons mess in Alaska or I'm sure the tax payers will do the bulk of the BP Gulf atrocity. Haliburton's asbestos was reimbursed with no bid contracts in Iraq. Rockefeller's Oil and the Propagandists maintaining dysfunction on us. Huge profits and they pay no tax.

Strong corporate profits amid weak economy?

Wars protecting foreign Oil wells. Using depleted uranium casings. Contaminating the soil kids play in. kick up the dust and more customers for Chemo! As long as you try to analyse it as a typical problem. You'll need two more joints just for the nausea from getting dizzy going in catch 22 circles. There are too many red flags to suggest this is just happenstance. I'm starting to wonder if the professional "reformers" aren't in on it. It's just so damn obvious, its tangible evidence and nothing has the run around the bill of rights as much as the Ganjawar. Or as much never mentioned in the press or courts. Cannabis doesn't fit by definition of a schedule#1 narcotic. Where is the paperwork on that? Just take Nixon's word for it and Congress play his secretary typing it? Its almost set up to fail as far as any semblance of good for the kids or America. It's the DEA's mission for it to remain at a steady pace. Not enough to win or enough to legalize.



Its only a wasted trillion dollars to us tax payers, not the companies and government employees receiving part of it to perpetuate this abomination. Its a tragedy that stands alone knowing how it could have been, especially the past 40 years. Several wars and 20 million Americans without criminal records or serving time, 4 decades ago we thought it was close. A renewable resource that grows anywhere and cleans the dirt as it grows. Deep roots aerate the soil for natural fertilizers and holding land preventing mudslides. Chokes off underbrush that create hotter forest fires and more damage than natural burns. Less drunks and stupidity, and that also seems to be a part of keeping it going. Doublespeak and Gossip in-between commercials and sitcoms. GodLessAmerica!



Henry Ford originally made his cars to run on ethanol, so farmers could create their own fuel. (He saw farmers really as his customers originally, since nearly all of us were farmers).

Along comes John D. Rockefeller, who wants people to use oil. He provides money to the anti-alcohol movement in order to make Prohibition a reality, and stop the ethanol fuel industry and promote the use of fossil fuels.
The documentary is called: Fuel.

Al Capone and Watergate were red herrings to divert the countries attention from the Fascist acts of eliminating competition. Booze/Ethanol or Ganja//Hemp.

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