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Old 04-28-2011, 12:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Birthers Officially Full of Shit... Trump to Release Tax Form?

White House releases full Obama birth certificate
In a gesture acknowledging the distracting effect that a false but persistent rumor has had on the Obama presidency, the White House yesterday released the long-form version of Barack Obama’s birth certificate, which showed that he was born in Honolulu.


President Obama expressed puzzlement yesterday that some people continue to believe he is not a US citizen. (Jewel Samad/ AFP/ Getty Images)

OBAMA'S BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENTS
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Hawaii has two major newspapers, the Honolulu Advertiser and the Star Bulletin.
BOTH newspapers include birth announcements, and BOTH newspapers record the August 4th, 1961 birth of Barack Obama.


Now, McCain's (Rove's) useful idiots will scream that these are fakes, that they are part of this grand conspiracy by Obama's parents to smuggle a newborn baby from Kenya into Honolulu to obtain a birth certificate and birth announcements. But what is lacking in their story is MOTIVE. It's not like Obama's parents knew back then that Barack would go into politics, and need to be "Natural Born." Why bother with such a deception, which includes a very risky flight half way around the world with a newborn baby. Under US law, Barack is a US citizen no matter where he was born because his mother was an American citizen, born and raised in Kansas. The question of location is only relevant to the "Natural Born" requirement to be President. Barack's parents could not have known at the time of his birth that this would be an issue. continued

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Moreover, both of Honolulu's major newspapers (the Advertiser and the Star-Bulletin) published announcements in August 1961 documenting the birth, in Honolulu, of a son to "Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama" on 4 August 1961

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The family of a doctor whose signature appears on President Obama's birth certificate woke up to the news Wednesday that the late obstetrician had delivered Obama. Relatives of Dr. David Sinclair said they were "blown away" and "honored.



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Enough already! Voters tire of Obama birth certificate flap
With gas prices soaring and high employment, residents said it's time to focus on more pressing issues affecting the nation.

Birthers, Insanity, by Ezra Grant
At the time he was sworn into office on Jan*u*ary 20th 2009, the United States econ*omy was on the brink of a cliff with one foot already off the edge. On a monthly basis, over 500,000 peo*ple were los*ing their jobs. He walked into office with a deficit of 1.8 tril*lion dol*lars, and a pro*jected deficit of 8 tril*lion over 10 years, thanks to the poli*cies of his pre*de*ces*sor George Bush. Respect for Amer*ica was at an all time low, this too, due to the poli*cies of George Bush and the war in Iraq.

Birther Bill Sponsor Receives Financial Support From House GOP Leadership
The latest FEC filings show that Rep. Bill Posey (R-FL), the author and main sponsor of the infamous "Birther Bill" in the House to require Presidential candidates to submit proof of citizenship, is receiving financial support from some prominent people -- namely, the House GOP leadership, in their regular donations to GOP incumbents.

The Birthers in Congress
Seventeen men and women who are either enabling the fringe movement or having trouble admitting Obama is president.

"The only people that I know who are afraid to take drug tests are the people who use drugs," says Rep. Bill Posey. The Florida Republican is the author of the so-called "Birther" bill, which would require future presidential candidates to submit their birth certificates. The fact that President Obama has already submitted -- forgive the extension of Posey's metaphor -- a clean urine sample seems to be completely irrelevant. Whether it's out of cynicism, fear of the GOP base or a simple inability to read and reason, the ranks of Birthers in Congress seem to be growing.


Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla., Rep. Bill Posey, R-Fla., Rep. Mary Bono Mack, R-Calif., botttom row, from left, Rep. John Campbell, R-Calif., Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., Rep. John Culberson, R-Texas.

Arizona Republicans Sponsor Birther Bill

Obama Birth Certificate Bill Advances,
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Racist Birther Bill Makes Republicans Look Ridiculous



Release of President Obama’s Long-Form Birth Certificate Was Stupid and Wrong
The American people have been well-served by this Birther story, for precisely the reasons President Obama gave to end it. While it did give rise to an absurdly popular Donald Trump candidacy, it also revealed to Americans the unserious nature of an absurdly large number of Republicans. This issue promised to be a crucible against which GOP candidates (as they eventually declared) could be judged sane or not.

Ann Coulter To O’Reilly: MSNBC,
Liberals Are To Blame For Birther Media Madness


Jon Stewart Takes Down The Media And Trump
For Obama Birth Certificate Controversy

Daily Show host Jon Stewart had a field day with the circus surrounding the White House’s presentation of President Barack Obama’s long-form birth certificate and Donald Trump’s subsequent… helicoptering.


All joking about Trump’s hair aside and ostentatious hobbies aside, Stewart brought up a great point: Why are so many outlets painting the revelation of Obama’s long-form birth certificate as “shocking news”? Wouldn’t the truly shocking news have been that Obama was not, in fact, an American citizen? Or that he was some sort of humanoid robot the entire time? Has the definition of “shocking” really changed so very dramatically? continued

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"All joking about Trump’s hair aside and ostentatious hobbies aside, Stewart brought up a great point: Why are so many outlets painting the revelation of Obama’s long-form birth certificate as “shocking news”? Wouldn’t the truly shocking news have been that Obama was not, in fact, an American citizen? Or that he was some sort of humanoid robot the entire time? Has the definition of “shocking” really changed so very dramatically?"

That is a pretty good point..
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All joking aside? You've got to be kidding, this is the Donald somethings living on my head Trumpster. Running for president is enough of a joke without the hair piece and air time spewing weird horshit.

I don't think many considered it seriously or was shocked when he produced it, again. I just think its a diversion from the other goofy shit the GOPerverts say and do. Trump's an ass. enough said. At least it pegs the loonies who thought there was something to it. I think they should all get a free, all expense paid trip to Fukushima. RIHGOP

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Where's my ticket? Lol. I'd vote for Trump as would I have voted for Perot (sp?). They know how to make money and right now the US needs somebody to help turn our economy around. It may not be the best choice but it really couldn't hurt.
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Not saying he can't be a complete doucher but he can turn a profit. He's been down but he came back.

Donald Trump

"Trump International Hotel and Tower New York: Trump provided his name and expertise to the building's owner (GE) during the building's re-development in 1994 for a fee totaling $40 million ($25 million for project management and $15 million in incentives deriving from the condo sales). Forbes values Trump's stake at $12 million.

Trump Park Avenue: Park Avenue & 59th Street. It is valued at $142 million.

Nike Store: The Niketown store is located in Trump Tower. It is valued at $120 million.

Palm Beach estate: 43,000 square feet (4,000 m²) on a large oceanfront lot in Palm Beach. Trump purchased this property for $40 million at a bankruptcy auction in 2004. Renovations to the property were led by the Season 3 Apprentice Kendra Todd, and Trump sold the property for $100 million in June 2008, making it the most expensive house ever sold in the United States. (The preivous record is $70 million for Ron Perelman's Palm Beach estate in 2004.). Forbes values his stake in the property for $43 million.

Mar-A-Lago, Palm Beach, Florida: Most of this estate has been converted into a private club. This landmark property, according to Trump, has received bids near $200,000,000. However, Forbes magazine does not take into account either of Trump's large vacation residences (Mar-A-Lago or his 213-acre (0.86*km2) spread near Bedford, NY in Westchester County, NY) for its valuation of his wealth."



He's got a checkered past but who doesn't? Not arguing just conversing..
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He's got a checkered past but who doesn't? Not arguing just conversing..
So he's a shady bullshitter who already made a lot of coin .
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So he's a shady bullshitter who already made a lot of coin .


And lost, and made and lost again and made some more...



You want a Trump in the White House?



I'd much rather it was this one.
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Birtherist response highlights racial undertones of ‘debate’ - Yahoo! News

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During the 2008 campaign, questions about John McCain's birth in the Panama Canal Zone on a U.S. military base prompted some to ask whether McCain was eligible to be president, since the Constitution stipulates that anyone not born in the United States is not eligible to be president.

Amid a flurry of news reports, McCain's own campaign announced in February 2008 that it was conducting an investigation. When a bipartisan pair of lawyers announced the following month that McCain was indeed eligible, the issue virtually died--apart from a Senate resolution that pretty much laid the question to rest by attesting to the facts surrounding McCain's birth and citizenship.

But the winner of the 2008 election, Barack Obama, has faced a relentless campaign questioning his U.S. citizenship--and thereby the legitimacy of his presidency--that has disregarded the facts.

Questions regarding Obama's birth certificate have persisted for more than two years, as the president noted Wednesday at a press conference announcing the release of his long-form birth certificate. A vast array of evidence attests to Obama's citizenship--including a certificate of live birth, signed affidavits from people who viewed Obama's long-form birth certificate, confirmation by Hawaiian officials, and independent investigations by news outlets. Nevertheless, "this thing just keeps going" as Obama said this morning. Even after the White House released the long-form certificate of Obama's birth, birther leader Orly Taitz—who has filed unsuccessful lawsuits seeking to obtain access to Obama's birth certificate—sought to cast doubt on the document's authenticity, suggesting that in 1961, Hawaiian officials would have classified Obama as "Negro" rather than using designation "African," which suggests, in her view, a more contemporary concern for "political correctness."

So what's fueling the dogged questioning of Obama's origins? Many critics of the birther movement say its core tenets--and its stubborn resistance to evidence disproving those beliefs--can be traced to racial hostilities. The fundamental birtherist conviction, these critics say, is that an African-American can't have legitimately won the presidency--and that his elevation to power therefore has to be the result of an elaborate subterfuge...
I never realized there were "birther" issues surround McCain as well, but as you can see in the article, they were handled with a lot less ridiculousness.

This whole thing is about race, plain and simple.



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I mean if this shit is so important best to elect a native American prez right? Just to be sure they're not Austrian?
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Donald Trump, February 2011

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I musta missed who was australian...
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Cool Wouldn't be rich if he paid his back taxes...

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I never realized there were "birther" issues surround McCain as well, but as you can see in the article, they were handled with a lot less ridiculousness.

This whole thing is about race, plain and simple.
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Sir Hillary also made the claim. After I saw the newspaper birth notices I assumed it was another teabog horshit story. They just toss things against the wall to see what sticks. Trumpster is only rich do to shady deals, tax evasion and inside connections. I wouldn't let him on TV let alone trust him with the nukes. I mean its really rather silly to think someone would spend the money Obombo did to get elected if they knew it could all collapse on such a simple rule. Same swiftboat liars the entire Neocon infrastructure is made out of. The race card for sure. It would be much better if they let x cons vote and barred wingnut birthers. How do the GOPerverts expect to win since you have to be born to have a birth certificate. These cloned idiots were hatched in incubators under 75 watt light bulbs much brighter than the lot of them. Let the Donuld run. Maybe without worrying about a third term Obombo can start acting Liberalish and give the people their pot. I'm not expecting it but Kucinich may be bending his ear and there is that outside chance Ron Paul or Gary Johnson could at least make the debates. Even if they don't win the election they can spread the word about the tragedy known as the Ganjawar. Maybe Santa will bring me a defunked out of business GOP for next years 4.20 holiday.



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Not saying he can't be a complete doucher but he can turn a profit. He's been down but he came back.
Wow, man, just wow. Running the government is not even close to the same as running a business. Just ask former gov. Mitt Romney. And besides the point, what do you want, more people in even more powerful positions to pass even more anti-consumer, anti-middle class, pro-mega corporation bullshit legislation that hurts you and I in both the short and long run? It's already happened and is continuing to happen today. Great isn't? Having corporations running the country and telling everyone what they can and can not do. Give me a fucking break.

It's exactly this kind of thinking that is fucking up America forever! Literally in front of our very eyes.
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That's a good, but sad, point. Pretty much every politician in Washington is a millionaire, yet we keep electing them to represent us, as if they could.



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I guess that's my point. More so, however, with someone like Chump.
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Where's my ticket? Lol. I'd vote for Trump as would I have voted for Perot (sp?). They know how to make money and right now the US needs somebody to help turn our economy around. It may not be the best choice but it really couldn't hurt.
Yes, I'm sure he would, "Make the trains run on time."
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The economy is fucked and he knows how to turn a fucked situation around. He's not any worse than what we've had in the past. That's why theirs a vote. The people will decide, then bitch about it later down the road. Palin or Obama better? I think not
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as soon as his TVshow is over he'll be irellevant again..he wouldn't win a single primary, but he's not really looking for votes is he(i'm not convinced he's anything more then a stooge for the Democrats), they love giving him air time don't they
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The economy is fucked and he knows how to turn a fucked situation around. He's not any worse than what we've had in the past. That's why theirs a vote. The people will decide, then bitch about it later down the road. Palin or Obama better? I think not
Well I highly disagree.

Also, you again demonstrate that you have no idea that running the government is not like running a business in any way. You can't go in there and start telling people what to do, when to do it, and so on. It doesn't work like that, nor should it. That is why we have something called checks and balances. A business is not a democracy. Does that make sense to you? That's why Chump or any of these teabagger wingnuts would be utter disaster. Thinks there's gridlock now? Ha
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there hasn't been all that much gridlock, and that's a big part of the problem, issues get spun instead of adressed
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