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Old 05-26-2011, 09:06 AM   #441 (permalink)
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how is that more credible than for example, this site about zionism?

The Jews Who Wrote The Protocols Of Zion | Real Zionist News

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Look at the references

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Pavel Krushevan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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In 1903 a riot started after an incident on February 6 when a Christian Russian boy, Michael Rybachenko, was found murdered in the town of Dubăsari, about 25 miles north of Chişinău. Although it was clear that the boy had been killed by a relative (who was later found), Бессарабец, published by Pavel Krushevan, insinuated that he was killed by the Jews instigating the Kishinev pogrom.
I don't know why they cited that as a source, must have made a mistake there

The Judeo-Masonic Conspiracy: February 2010

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# Hitlerís Struggle (part I: the Two World Orders)
# Hitlerís Struggle (part II: World War I)
# Hitler's Struggle (part III: the unfinished war)
# Hitlerís Struggle (part IV: the Eternal Jew)
# Hitlerís Struggle (part V: the Second World War)
Obviously I'm very sympathetic with Hitler's struggle .

Racist tosh without a hint of credibility. Very poor.

To be honest I wonder why I bothered, I want my 5 minutes back.
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Old 05-26-2011, 01:14 PM   #443 (permalink)
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I thought you were talking about historical references, not site references, but still look at the list of references from the blog you consider credible.



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http://en.wikipedia dot org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the _Elders_of_Zion
http://lorenrosson.blogspot dot com/2005/10/top-20-literary-hoaxes.html
http://www.abovetopsecret dot com/forum/thread54862/pg1
http://www.scamtypes dot com/the-protocols-of-the-elders-of-zion.html
http://www.ushmm dot org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10007244
http://www.adl dot org/special_reports/protocols/protocols_condemnati on.asp
Anyone could slap links of references that they haven't read.

If you want to insist on the protocols issue, address me in the protocol topic and I will gladly post all sorts of information that you will never read.
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Old 05-26-2011, 01:20 PM   #444 (permalink)
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But the article I posted is well researched and has very credible linked references. Which you seem to have overlooked.You asked
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how is that more credible than for example, this site
I've just told you.

Stop posting links to white supremacist sites on Yahooka. They are not welcome.

Edit btw if I hadn't read them then how did I choose the quotes?
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What is the argument about at this point?

edit: touche on the ''how'd I quote''....
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Old 05-26-2011, 01:28 PM   #446 (permalink)
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lol. again, address me in the appropriate topic. This will be hilarious.

edit: what quiotes did you chose? the welcoming message on both links? yeah awesome.
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zerodown you are an idiot.

Just don't post any race hate links.
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The only one full of hate here is you my friend.
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Seconded....

There isn't such a fine line between conspiracy/belief (not matter the accuracy) and straight up Anti-Semitic links.
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has anybody seen the discovery channel doc yet? its pretty sweet.

that motherfucker.
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Seconded....

There isn't such a fine line between conspiracy/belief (not matter the accuracy) and straight up Anti-Semitic links.
Now hang on a second. There's a difference between white supremacy and what zerodown has actually been saying.

Had his posts read, "hang the jew, burn Israel to dust" I'd be inclined to agree with you. The Protocols and the majority of them who have read them may be racist, but not everyone whose read them is racist. Zerodown posts unpopular theories and God help me I love arguing with the guy, and as someone who debates him constantly let me be the first to say he has never posted anything bigoted. He has his views, and it's not his fault if a work he finds interesting has been latched onto by a hate group, zerodown by his posts has shown he is not a bigot. And I have trouble believing a Puerto Rican possible of being an advocate of white supremacy so let's all chill out.
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Now hang on a second. There's a difference between white supremacy and what zerodown has actually been saying. .
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not his fault if a work he finds interesting has been latched onto by a hate group,
Latched onto? That's like saying jews appropriated the old testament!

Specifically the problem is not with zerodown or his views but with posting race hate or links to race hate material.
If I was sure zerodown was deliberately promoting racism I would have banned him straight away. I'm willing to acknowledge the possibility that he may just be misguided. His responses were not conclusive either way imo.
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Now hang on a second. There's a difference between white supremacy and what zerodown has actually been saying.

Had his posts read, "hang the jew, burn Israel to dust" I'd be inclined to agree with you. The Protocols and the majority of them who have read them may be racist, but not everyone whose read them is racist. Zerodown posts unpopular theories and God help me I love arguing with the guy, and as someone who debates him constantly let me be the first to say he has never posted anything bigoted. He has his views, and it's not his fault if a work he finds interesting has been latched onto by a hate group, zerodown by his posts has shown he is not a bigot. And I have trouble believing a Puerto Rican possible of being an advocate of white supremacy so let's all chill out.

Now hang on a second

WHO said anything about 'white supremacy'?
And for that matter, when did anti-Semitism exclusively state one must be white?
The later statement isn't saying ANYTHING about zd... I'm just asking?

For the record:
I wasn't calling anyone an Anti-Semite....
You read WAY into my post and came out with things I never said or intended to imply.
I was talking about links.... links and nothing but the links.
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yea i got the vibe that zero was just misguided but that he earnestly believed at least some of what he posts.

i honestly dont know how you go about convincing someone that something that seems to me ridiculous is actually ridiculous. I think its a difficult and interesting question. Because its probably the reason why people in iran think they are fighting a worldwide fight against western scum that want to destroy t heir honor and religion.... like, seemingly modern intelligent people can just end up believing these crazy things. I dont have any problem with people thinking that zionists are devilishly clever and perhaps conniving....but the idea that an ancient worldwide conspiracy is responsible for their advances just seems...far fetched. This is one reason why a good education is so important because sometimes things can masquerade as the truth and unless you a truly sophisticated consumer of information you can be fooled. (ps im not trying to come off as a if your smart you agree with me type deal...) im 99.9% sure that the protocols are absurd...but everyone has the right to look at it and decide for themselves.

edit- i guess after reading some of what he posted it does seem pretty extreme. but he never came off as a straight up rascist. hes the one who posted the ska p intifada song too i think right? i dont support a lot of the hate mongering that it seems like hes engaging in....but his seemed to me at least at one point as a mind that was open to changing.
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Old 06-01-2011, 03:10 PM   #455 (permalink)
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I totally disagree with you. FG is NOT full of hate. He is a kind and loving person. AND...I feel sure his weed is better than your weed. So there.
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Not true man not true. I've seen no hate from yous guy's convos, and besides imo FG is a good guy, fair and logical. Can't ask for better in a human imo.
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I totally disagree with you. FG is NOT full of hate. He is a kind and loving person. AND...I feel sure his weed is better than your weed. So there.
But he will tell you how to make your weed as good as his.
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WTF, I'm being analyzed on the "osama's death" topic?

This place never stops amazing me haha...

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has anybody seen the discovery channel doc yet? its pretty sweet.

that motherfucker.
I can presume that you bought that completely then?

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Now Hang on...point of view...let's all chill out
Now there is some logic being rightfully applied.

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Specifically the problem is not with zerodown or his views but with posting race hate or links to race hate material.
If I was sure zerodown was deliberately promoting racism I would have banned him straight away. I'm willing to acknowledge the possibility that he may just be misguided. His responses were not conclusive either way imo.
Really? This is the link to the protocol text:

http://www.biblebelievers. org.au/przion1.htm#Table%20 of%20Contents
Don't click on it, im sure its just full of hate.

I don't believe in the bible, but that didn't stop me from READING something in their site. "Valga la redundancia" you don't have to believe everything you read, but if you don't read how can you discern?



You are a mod?

I wasn't giving any answers, I was providing questions, you were the one required to anwer.

PS: We're all misguided.

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now hang on...rest...but the links.
no misunderstanding.

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yea i got the vibe that zero was just misguided...wtf...op en to changing
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I totally disagree with you. FG is NOT full of hate. He is a kind and loving person. AND...I feel sure his weed is better than your weed. So there.
He insulted me twice out of the blue, not a characteristic of a smart person, gave me a false impression I guess.

But yes, I bet his weed is better than mine.

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Not true man not true. I've seen no hate from yous guy's convos, and besides imo FG is a good guy, fair and logical. Can't ask for better in a human imo.
Im not dissing the guy.
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Really? This is the link to the protocol text:

http://www.biblebelievers. org.au/przion1.htm#Table%20 of%20Contents
Don't click on it, im sure its just full of hate.
Well there are some articles which refer to jews as "the jew" and some articles referring to hinduism, bhuddism and islam as "false doctrine". Which seems a little insular and xenophobic.
However there is another article pointing out the stupidity and hypocrisy of anti semetism.
On the whole there are some questionable attitudes, I wouldn't call it outright hate. I can't see the protocols of teh elders there.
Whereas the previous site you linked had a lot of blatantly racist articles and links to book vendors hawking tracts about Hitler's struggle .

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I wasn't giving any answers, I was providing questions, you were the one required to anwer.
Which was why I suggested that you might want to think about how you are presenting yourself and that we might have a conversation. I'm not required to answer anything and the interrogative tone might not be the most polite thing perhaps?
And might give rise to a similarly impolite response from me.

If you cite documents or whatever asking someone to debunk them, rather than citing them as fact you should state that clearly to avoid misunderstanding. If that was what you were doing.

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Yes there is a lot of bad guidance out there.
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