John F. Kerry

damn....

its actually pretty crazy how well a totally bulshit fake story can reasonably fit the circumstances that actually happened, if your willing to suspend disbelief and just question everything.


what do u think the odds are that everything we've been told for the past 10 years has been one big lie?


id say probably like .01% probability perhaps... but i dont see how were gonna be able to close this chapter without several photos from several angles (at the safe house, on the ship)... to really prove to most people that this shit is true.



i mean come on, how can they not release that shit? sorry but whatever consequences of incitement it might have, i dont see that we have any choice... i think we probably need to release several pictures at least, from different angles that seem impossible to fake.


can u imagine if nixon had said we landed on the moon but were not gonna show pictures of the flag on the moon cuz that would piss off the soviets...

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John F. Kerry

also -after the quran burning thing, everyone was so worried. well he eventually did burn it and the huge "backlash" ended up being a handful of pissed of taliban having a rally...

the idea that all these normal peaceful regular muslims will go crazy when they see a pic of dead osama is actually like a pretty racist view of muslims.... does obama really think they are so stupid and just like easily provoked that they wont see why we had no choice but to release the picture....wtf.... it wont piss them off to kill him, thats fine, but show a pic of the deed? OMGGG

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John F. Kerry

bizzump cuz i had to reply to the other un

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Grieves

Remember what happened when those danish dudes printed a cartoon of Muhammad...?

Now take a so called "living prophet" from a small, highly volatile sect of the same religion and kill him and brandish those pictures all over the world...Now imagine what the reaction to seeing those images would be...?

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consternation?

SmokeaJoint

I think the odds are pretty good man. Saying everything is a bit of an overstatement, but as far as everything important goes, yes I feel its all pretty much a bullshit lie. As to why I feel that way, well, a man can only be lied to so many times before he begins to see EVERYTHING as one. We as a country have officially hit 1984 status. Orwell was a fucking prophet.

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Grieves

nawh its more brave new world than 1984 brah...

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SmokeaJoint

I dunno man, I think its a split, some aspects of one novel fit, while some aspects of the other fit. Ok never mind I really have no idea what I'm talking about. I'm too sober for this shit.

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Grieves

You might need to go smoke an oz and come back to this one than...

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SmokeaJoint

Yeah maybe. But I got another interview tomorrow, so that ounce is gonna have to wait till Friday. Why, jealous? Don't answer that, your constant obsessing on it is confirmation enough.

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The Rev

Josef Stalin once said, "There is only one way that three men may keep a secret: if two are dead." I think there may be some truth to this that is applicable to conspiracy theories. If the conspiracy involves a small number of people who stand to lose big if the story gets out (anonymously or otherwise) then the secret will be kept. However, beyond that, it's going to be nearly impossible to keep something secret.

Take the moon landing. Had it been fake, thousands of people, on both sides of the Iron Curtain, would have had to keep that secret. Now, why would the Russians, who were competing with us not just for control of the world, but for credibility, keep that secret for us?

9/11 would involve a lot of government employees who would have nothing to lose if the story broke, so long as they didn't get caught as the leak. There are some fishy aspects to the 9/11 story, but for it to be something huge, like Bush being behind it, we would know by now. I think it's much more likely that the Bush administration exploited the opportunities presented by the attacks, and may even have known something was coming and let it happen anyway for political advantage. That's possible. But beyond that...

As for the government lying to us? Absolutely, they lie. And I think most people don't understand enough about how politics, economics, and other things work to know when they do, or to listen to those who DO understand, because those people make no sense to them.

And I think the most effective government lies are the ones that pander to our desires or wishes: We can fix the economy and guarantee jobs! We can create social justice! We can make you safe! Just give us more power. They don't need to create massive conspiracies to meet their agendas. They just need good marketing.



The Rev

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Grieves

How can one person be so wrong so often and still act as though their shit doesn't stink?

You may feel as though you don't need to change your attitude because "if they don't like me fuck em", right? But being as you are unemployed and looking to work for someone else's money, on their time, you may benefit from a change of attitude...

I have managed, hired and fired many people for real businesses and for trim jobs and I wouldn't even let you step foot near one of my trim scenes with your "I only please myself" attitude...

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SmokeaJoint

I couldn't give less of a fuck man. Whats your obsession?

Oh, and I man my own trim scene lol. You can trim your shitty mids yourself, holla at me when you get some real shit going.

EDIT: I grow my own herb, I trim my own herb, You should do the same.

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Grieves

No obsession man, just trying to help you look into the mirror, but your too busy trying to hold up one for me to look at...

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SmokeaJoint

Ok, ok. However, I think you probably haven't really gotten to know me well enough to be allowed to hold that mirror. Same for me, thats true enough. I'll drop it if you will?

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John F. Kerry

another fairly interesting possibility is that the cia built the bin laden compound. maybe it was the us that was setting him up in pakistan, for some reason or other, and then obama was like fuck i need to get reelected and everyone is pissed at my low poll numbers so fuck keeping this shit a secret anymore....

im just asking questions

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Štulic

Plenty of eyewitness reports of a Boing 757 hitting the Pentagon but we never saw a footage of it, probably never will, even though it's a fact that there is at least a dosen of CCTV footages that captured the impact but got confiscated by the FBI.
Why?

I'm just asking questions too.

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SageTree

What?????



*BEEP BEEP*




Oh.... hang on for a second + meaningless 'Sorry'....

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The Don

Goddamnit you are so clever and well spoken I just busted a nut.

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stoneric

I don't get the thread title.