wellfleation

They are one in the same.
President Obama could make wine out of water and the crazies/racists/right wing Christian fakes (e.g. most "Christians" in the US) would accuse him of being an alcoholic! It must be all that fluoride being dumped into our water supplies! Drink up wingnuts.

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zerodown

lol. just as their official story is crumbling apart because they just keep changing it, they make an attack on anyone who questions it by calling them deathers? lol, I thought cnn was serious business.

Anyways, i don't debate if he is alive or dead, that is irrelevant, i debate the motive of his "official killing".

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wellfleation

Well, why would they change their story knowing that crazies would jump on it? bush certainly NEVER did no matter how absurd. Oh, maybe because they weren't there and keep hearing new info and want to be accurate, knowing that the crazy deathers are a small minorities whose minds can't be changed no matter what because they are partisan to the X (they were mostly the racist birthers, after all!), and want normal people to know the truth.

Did men land on the moon? What else don't you believe? Jeesh, there are many non-partisan witnesses regarding the killing. And you ask the absurd question, "Why did Obama kill him now?" Well durrr, because they have trying to kill this piece of garbage for ten years. I think that is a stupid question.

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stoneric

The story started out with there being an intense firefight with bin laden using his wife as a human shield why wielding an AK47. Later we hear only one man fired any shots at the navy seals. We also hear that a total of 4 men (including bin laden's son) and 1 woman were killed with one of the men being killed because he lunged at the seals. They say bin laden was shot because he was in reaching distance of a pistol and an AK47. So an unarmed man is stupid enough to lunge at the heavily armed seals and somehow bin laden didn't hear any of this and was only in reaching distance of any weapons by the time the seals reached him? We then took bin laden and son out to sea and fed them to the sharks. We keep suspected low level alqaeda operatives detained for years supposedly trying to get information from them yet we shoot the main man in the eyes and dump him in the sea. And you're not skeptical?

zerodown

me: Why did they kill him now?

you: because government keeps its promises

That is a stupid answer.

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Snowmayne

lol @ labeling me anything simply because I question a story thats been changed numerous times, as well as used pictures and press releases that were meant to deceive us, only later to be told that wasn't exactly what happened.

most people aren't questioning his death, we are simply questioning this official story thats changed numerous times.

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zerodown

Exactly, it is irrelevant if he is dead or alive, I do think he is dead, though I think he has been dead for several years mind you(based on my own research, not on cnn's version), what I am questioning is the motive of officially doing it now, at this moment in history. If we can learn something from reading history is that these things don't happen randomly. Another thing we can learn from history is that when something big like this happens its usually a smoke screen or the trigger to something bigger. Like the birth certificate issue being a smoke screen for the historical event of the federal reserve doing its first ever press conference.

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Snowmayne

I also think its odd that the forum the news is reporting the Al Qaeda quotes came from confirming his death, can be linked back to the US. The site acts as pentagon propoganda to further push agendas.

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stoneric

Why was he unarmed, was he fucking deaf? Or was he going to surrender?

SmokeaJoint

He wasn't even there what are you talking about. OBL died alone in a cave a long time ago.

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wellfleation

I think it is obvious why they killed him. `

1) He was wanted dead or alive.
2) A trial would have posed some real security threats.
3) A trial would have costs a lot of money.
4) A trial would have benefited Osama as he would have a huge public venue to spew his agenda and cause more attacks, in secrete code even.
5) It would have glorified his "cause" to other extremists.

I'm sure there are many other reasons why we killed him. And if he was killed years ago under bush, knowing his ego and wanting to justify his cowboy mentality of getting us into two wars we couldn't afford, he would have jump at a chance to claim he got him.

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SmokeaJoint

He wasnt killed, he died of natural causes. IE kidney failure, old age. Thats at least as likely as the "official" story.

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stoneric

You have as much evidence of that as the people that say he was killed by the navy seals. I'm just basing my statements on the assumption that we did indeed kill him.

stoneric

I'm thinking if cowboy bush were in charge, and the same scenario took place, you'd be spewing some different shit. Seriously, since bin laden was wanted 'dead or alive', that justifies his execution? And we have to take financial considerations into account before we decide who should have a trial or should have their eyes shot out? Aren't we trying to cram our way of life down everybodies throat yet it's allright for us to kill with impunity?

wellfleation

Absolutely not, I would be equally happy for the kill, but still against his foreign policy of invading countries on a whim.
Not legally so I've read. A self admitted terrorist who has taken responsibility for thousands of peoples death should not get a trial venue to spread his message to other extremists (see list). That was bush, who oddly enough, campaigned on the lie, "no nation building".

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wellfleation

What would al-Qaida have to gain by now confirming Osama's death?

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SmokeaJoint

Thats exactly what I'm saying. My assumption is different, but with the "facts" as we have them now, it truely is open to speculation. Not some crazy crackpot conspiracy bullshit, because man does this thing smell fishy.

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stoneric

Every human being deserves a trial. No exceptions. None. Zero. Nada.