UN Passes Gay Rights Protection Act - Page 2

Terry · 06-19-2011, 01:21 PM

At the risk of being censored in my own thread, Roach you're a reactionary old moron. Shut up and move on.

John F. Kerry · 06-24-2011, 04:39 PM

well it looks like the nys assembly is going to vote to make the the color blue officially green.

congratulations.

blue was never blue, blue has always been green, green is blue.

oh brave new world we live in .

Captain Cannabis · 06-24-2011, 04:42 PM

what the fuck are you even trying to say?

John F. Kerry · 06-24-2011, 04:46 PM

heres a cypher

marriage = blue

gay unions = green

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/57738.html

it really is like 1984 with this social shit.

if 32 people vote to make chicken a vegetarian dish... then we have to accept that it is vegetarian dish.

we were never at war with eastasia...untill we are, and then we were never not at war with eastasia...

its like the absolute opposite of freedom of consciousness. you cant believe what you want to believe... if the government votes to make 1+1=3 then we just have to either accept whats false as true.... or compartmentalize between "truth" that you observe and determine on your own and "truth" as what a majority of a paliamentary body decides.

how can a parliament or a congress vote to change reality? by order of the NYS senate gravity is officially no longer a force.... so ... .U BETTER START FLOATING OR ELSE!

cantSEEme · 06-24-2011, 06:08 PM

lol, i wonder what j would've said during the civil rights movement.

because, back then, it was black people and their rights who "we" were told to change from "blue to green" (what a stupid analogy).

something tells me j would be on the giving end of the chains and fire hoses in birminghan (or at least, in agreement with them).

Grieves · 06-24-2011, 06:29 PM

j will/would be handing out blowbies to whoever is in power like he always has...

he will be just fine...

John F. Kerry · 06-24-2011, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cantSEEme

lol, i wonder what j would've said during the civil rights movement.

because, back then, it was black people and their rights who "we" were told to change from "blue to green" (what a stupid analogy).

something tells me j would be on the giving end of the chains and fire hoses in birminghan (or at least, in agreement with them).

the constitution says "all men are created equal"

it doesnt say "all human pairings are recognized as marriage"

Terry · 06-24-2011, 09:54 PM

Based on how little New York Republicans did to stop this, and how many Republicans nationwide are actually saying this is a good thing, are we seeing gay marriage go mainstream? Pretty cool.

J what are your thoughts on all the Repubs jumping ship on the issue?

John F. Kerry · 06-24-2011, 10:16 PM

i dunno man, as i said im torn about this issue.

if ny has to be the laboratory to see how it works, then i guess at least thats better than if obama had changed the law on a federal level.

but thats a pretty small consolation

John F. Kerry · 06-24-2011, 10:19 PM

another funny thing i read this article tonight that said "gays now have the right to divorce!" and was like celebrating that saying that divorce is just as important as the right to marry. it sorta made me think about how in some sense once these groups get what they want, they end up realizing that getting waht they wanted might not have mattered that much as it is...

like, now gays can have just as screwed up marraige lives and gay couples who have stupid and shallow relationships (like the hetero ones that do) can be screwed and have to be "spouse" support

ugh it just sounds so disgusting... but yea pay spouse support and alimony and shit.

so now all the hetero dudes can be like "haha welcome to the club gay guys" now your fucked by the system just like us.

Silverleaf · 06-24-2011, 11:40 PM

Gays didn't need to be allowed to be married for them to "have stupid and shallow relationships (like the hetero ones that do)". That goes with the territory of being a person who matures and starts making good decisions for themselves and their well-being.

The point the article was really trying to make, wunderkind, is that a state is now recognizing equality between sexual orientations. Not that one demographic is going to get ambushed by "the system" that you one minute seem to defend while in the next breath condemning.

If you don't like it, then don't come to my state and don't deal with it. Your absence makes New York a better place, too.

Captain Cannabis · 06-25-2011, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John F. Kerry

i dunno man, as i said im torn about this issue.

if ny has to be the laboratory to see how it works, then i guess at least thats better than if obama had changed the law on a federal level.

but thats a pretty small consolation

Where is Gay Marriage Legal?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage

certainly the first place to legalize gay marriage ever

cantSEEme · 06-25-2011, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John F. Kerry

the constitution says "all men are created equal"

it doesnt say "all human pairings are recognized as marriage"

true, and thats a good point. i personally think the government should not be involved in marriage at all. it should be civil unions for all to get the "benefits" of marriage from the government, and the actual "marriage" should be separate, chosen to be performed by your cult of choice.

but that's not the world we live in. our societies basic marriage is both religion and government entwined, and under this setup, imo, all ppl should be able to marry whoever (whomever?) they want to. that is also not counting the enormous open-minded positive actions that this act could possibly spread to other parts of the world, places where homosexuals are brutally murdered for their sexual orientation. or maybe it wont do anything to the worlds consciousness. either way, it is not a bad thing. only religious fanatics and ppl filled with hate would think it is.

imho of course.

**mothernature** · 06-25-2011, 03:42 AM

There have been gay people since there have been people. They have just, in the past, been forced to stay hidden.

No one has been harmed because of them being gay, well, except for themselves. They get none of the legal protection that other couples get.

As far as the constitution goes, this isn't the first time a group has had to fight for the attempt to be treated equally under the law.

Unless, of course, you think that only white men should have all the rights and the rest of us are here only to provide cheap labor.

kamikazi89 · 06-25-2011, 06:14 AM

just as a point of clarification, the U.S, Constitution does not state "all men are created equal", and that principle is torn to shreds in the said document itself(slaves)

it was the declaration of independence

**Kompressor** · 06-25-2011, 09:20 AM

Preach open-mindedness

Give close minded rant

link random opinion who agrees with me

misinterpret event as first time happening ever

preach again how allowing gay people to be gay will somehow make me and society by extension less heterosexual

**Kompressor** · 06-25-2011, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John F. Kerry

Whenever I think about this issue, im torn between this type of person, who i have compassion and sympathy for

and this one, who is no different than v for vendetta mask wearing anarchists who just want to shock people and to force themselves on others and insist that we have to live by their , to many, offensive, behavior.

he wants me to not be able to teach my children that his fun games with other dudes (that he has every right to engage in in the privacy of his own home) that what they do is any different, in fact, or by law, from anything me and mommy do.

Seriously jfk, why you gotta rain on their parade.

kamikazi89 · 06-25-2011, 09:22 AM

don't think for one minute this resolution trumps states rights

Captain Cannabis · 06-25-2011, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kompressor

Preach open-mindedness

Give close minded rant

link random opinion who agrees with me

misinterpret event as first time happening ever

preach again how allowing gay people to be gay will somehow make me and society by extension less heterosexual

omg i think i might change my mind on this

The Rev · 06-25-2011, 12:50 PM

I wonder if gay marriage would be legal if only women were gay...

I've always believed that the prejudice is directed largely at male homosexuals. For example, in mainstream TV you see a lot more shows about homosexuality, but aside from Glee, the gay characters are usually women. This leads me to think that the issue is more about straight men, and how it affects their sexual self-image possibly being objects of desire (which would put them in the role of "the female"), than it is about anything else (like God).

The Rev

06-19-2011, 01:21 PM	#21 (permalink)
Terry Propaganda Minister Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Big Sky Country Posts: 4,087 Thanks: 3,878 Thanked 3,826 Times in 1,890 Posts	At the risk of being censored in my own thread, Roach you're a reactionary old moron. Shut up and move on. __________________ And if you think peace Is a common goal That goes to show How little you know -The Smiths

06-24-2011, 04:39 PM	#22 (permalink)
John F. Kerry Secretary of State?! Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,997 Thanks: 2,086 Thanked 685 Times in 459 Posts	well it looks like the nys assembly is going to vote to make the the color blue officially green. congratulations. blue was never blue, blue has always been green, green is blue. oh brave new world we live in . __________________ The future's like the weather baby there aint no guarantees "real-world competency is no match for fresh packaging and a good slogan"

06-24-2011, 04:42 PM	#23 (permalink)
Captain Cannabis safety word: more Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: m.i.a. Posts: 17,389 Thanks: 3,224 Thanked 3,988 Times in 2,171 Posts	what the fuck are you even trying to say? __________________ fuck the monkeys

06-24-2011, 04:46 PM	#24 (permalink)
John F. Kerry Secretary of State?! Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,997 Thanks: 2,086 Thanked 685 Times in 459 Posts	heres a cypher marriage = blue gay unions = green http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/57738.html it really is like 1984 with this social shit. if 32 people vote to make chicken a vegetarian dish... then we have to accept that it is vegetarian dish. we were never at war with eastasia...untill we are, and then we were never not at war with eastasia... its like the absolute opposite of freedom of consciousness. you cant believe what you want to believe... if the government votes to make 1+1=3 then we just have to either accept whats false as true.... or compartmentalize between "truth" that you observe and determine on your own and "truth" as what a majority of a paliamentary body decides. how can a parliament or a congress vote to change reality? by order of the NYS senate gravity is officially no longer a force.... so ... .U BETTER START FLOATING OR ELSE! __________________ The future's like the weather baby there aint no guarantees "real-world competency is no match for fresh packaging and a good slogan"

06-24-2011, 06:08 PM	#25 (permalink)
cantSEEme Cold School Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,638 Thanks: 280 Thanked 235 Times in 509 Posts	lol, i wonder what j would've said during the civil rights movement. because, back then, it was black people and their rights who "we" were told to change from "blue to green" (what a stupid analogy). something tells me j would be on the giving end of the chains and fire hoses in birminghan (or at least, in agreement with them). __________________

06-24-2011, 06:29 PM	#26 (permalink)
Grieves Primordial Mantelope Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Interstate 8 Posts: 18,322 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 6,347 Thanked 7,108 Times in 3,555 Posts	j will/would be handing out blowbies to whoever is in power like he always has... he will be just fine... __________________ Primordial man, the antelope hunter Made his weapons out of sticks Thinking drinking from the sun Her moonbeams birth mercurial babies Antelopes run free and the sea it returns me Now that my body's grown the lonely heart poetry Droning in hearts becomes songs that all objects Sing to each other like friends telling stories The immorals gently awaken All possibilities open Unto one another And brothers and sisters begin To see truly through strata

06-24-2011, 09:54 PM	#28 (permalink)
Terry Propaganda Minister Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Big Sky Country Posts: 4,087 Thanks: 3,878 Thanked 3,826 Times in 1,890 Posts	Based on how little New York Republicans did to stop this, and how many Republicans nationwide are actually saying this is a good thing, are we seeing gay marriage go mainstream? Pretty cool. J what are your thoughts on all the Repubs jumping ship on the issue? __________________ And if you think peace Is a common goal That goes to show How little you know -The Smiths

06-24-2011, 10:16 PM	#29 (permalink)
John F. Kerry Secretary of State?! Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,997 Thanks: 2,086 Thanked 685 Times in 459 Posts	i dunno man, as i said im torn about this issue. if ny has to be the laboratory to see how it works, then i guess at least thats better than if obama had changed the law on a federal level. but thats a pretty small consolation __________________ The future's like the weather baby there aint no guarantees "real-world competency is no match for fresh packaging and a good slogan"

06-24-2011, 10:19 PM	#30 (permalink)
John F. Kerry Secretary of State?! Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,997 Thanks: 2,086 Thanked 685 Times in 459 Posts	another funny thing i read this article tonight that said "gays now have the right to divorce!" and was like celebrating that saying that divorce is just as important as the right to marry. it sorta made me think about how in some sense once these groups get what they want, they end up realizing that getting waht they wanted might not have mattered that much as it is... like, now gays can have just as screwed up marraige lives and gay couples who have stupid and shallow relationships (like the hetero ones that do) can be screwed and have to be "spouse" support ugh it just sounds so disgusting... but yea pay spouse support and alimony and shit. so now all the hetero dudes can be like "haha welcome to the club gay guys" now your fucked by the system just like us. __________________ The future's like the weather baby there aint no guarantees "real-world competency is no match for fresh packaging and a good slogan"

06-24-2011, 11:40 PM	#31 (permalink)
Silverleaf Toker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: in transit Posts: 1,195 Thanks: 613 Thanked 302 Times in 165 Posts	Gays didn't need to be allowed to be married for them to "have stupid and shallow relationships (like the hetero ones that do)". That goes with the territory of being a person who matures and starts making good decisions for themselves and their well-being. The point the article was really trying to make, wunderkind, is that a state is now recognizing equality between sexual orientations. Not that one demographic is going to get ambushed by "the system" that you one minute seem to defend while in the next breath condemning. If you don't like it, then don't come to my state and don't deal with it. Your absence makes New York a better place, too. __________________ CONQUISTADOR OF THE USELESS

06-25-2011, 03:42 AM	#34 (permalink)
mothernature ancientbongmaster Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,026 Thanks: 2,667 Thanked 1,734 Times in 939 Posts	There have been gay people since there have been people. They have just, in the past, been forced to stay hidden. No one has been harmed because of them being gay, well, except for themselves. They get none of the legal protection that other couples get. As far as the constitution goes, this isn't the first time a group has had to fight for the attempt to be treated equally under the law. Unless, of course, you think that only white men should have all the rights and the rest of us are here only to provide cheap labor. __________________ Sometimes sleep is the best revenge- Luke

06-25-2011, 09:20 AM	#36 (permalink)
Kompressor Voice of Reason Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,387 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4,514 Times in 2,239 Posts	Preach open-mindedness Give close minded rant link random opinion who agrees with me misinterpret event as first time happening ever preach again how allowing gay people to be gay will somehow make me and society by extension less heterosexual __________________ Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought. -H. Bergson

06-25-2011, 12:50 PM	#40 (permalink)
The Rev Adorable Idiot Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: There's no one here. Posts: 22,064 Thanks: 6,124 Thanked 7,238 Times in 3,642 Posts	I wonder if gay marriage would be legal if only women were gay... I've always believed that the prejudice is directed largely at male homosexuals. For example, in mainstream TV you see a lot more shows about homosexuality, but aside from Glee, the gay characters are usually women. This leads me to think that the issue is more about straight men, and how it affects their sexual self-image possibly being objects of desire (which would put them in the role of "the female"), than it is about anything else (like God). The Rev __________________ Budforce - My Friend August 29, 1973- May 25, 2012

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