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Old 06-17-2011, 06:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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UN Passes Gay Rights Protection Act

U.N. Gay Rights Protection Resolution Passes, Hailed As 'Historic Moment'

About time. I do wonder if the UN will stick to their guns however. Specifically this part of the bill:

"More important, activists said, it also established a formal U.N. process to document human rights abuses against gays, including discriminatory laws and acts of violence."

The way I read that suggests the UN will take some action against the most homophobic governments like Saudi Arabia and Uganda and plenty more governments who openly condone and encourage violence against their gay citizens.

Certainly a step in the right direction, lets just hope we start moving there a bit quicker.
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Old 06-17-2011, 07:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs failed in its goal to establish uniform drug laws. This will be no different. And this one won't have the US forcing it on everyone.
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Old 06-17-2011, 10:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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on the other side of the argument, heres an nfl players thoughts

Gay Marriage: Will lead to anarchy fears NFL player? - National LGBT Relationships | Examiner.com

""How can marriage be marriage for thousands of years and now all the sudden because a minority, an influential minority, has a push or agenda ... and totally reshapes something that was not founded in our country,"

"You can't teach something that you don't have, so two men will never be able to show a woman how to be a woman."



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Old 06-18-2011, 12:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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on the other side of the argument, heres an nfl players thoughts

Gay Marriage: Will lead to anarchy fears NFL player? - National LGBT Relationships | Examiner.com

""How can marriage be marriage for thousands of years and now all the sudden because a minority, an influential minority, has a push or agenda ... and totally reshapes something that was not founded in our country,"

"You can't teach something that you don't have, so two men will never be able to show a woman how to be a woman."



Continue reading on Examiner.com Gay Marriage: Will lead to anarchy fears NFL player? - National LGBT Relationships | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/lgbt-relationships-in-national/gay-marriage-will-lead-to-anarchy-fears-nfl-player#ixzz1PbZzmvRe"
The guy gives the NFL a bad name. Hopefully they all aren't as fucking stupid as him.
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Old 06-18-2011, 03:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The NFL today is a spoiled boys club. What do I care about the opinions of some jock who never evolved past high school?

In my opinion the anti-gay marriage cult is unfathomably idiotic. Most issues I try to see things from the other point of view, but there is no other point of view on this issue.

You either believe in freedom or you don't. Period.
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lol JKF i can't even believe you posted that...


I cant help but question if you are just a big troll sometimes... but then i realize there are stupid people being talked about in your posts, and if they exist you probably exist.

Then i get momentarily depressed over the fact that a large portion of the world is still complete retards.
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... yea maybe you need to be more open minded.


this and similar issues make me pretty frustrated. because i know certain people who i like, like terry and stoner and a few others, and people i know in real life, actually support this, and think its a good idea. and while i feel very strongly in abstract that its wrong, and inappropriate, and against nature and ultimately will hurt our society tremendously.... I also think those people who i like, and who want this soo bad, that they are good people and they dont want it to ruin society and they dont think their own actions will ruin society.

Many people support civil unions. and 100% equal rights for homo or hetero sexual couples.... but a lot of people also support marriage specifically being as it has since the dawn of recorded time, between a man and a woman. It seems like a militant angry tiny minority is demanding that we dont just give them equal rights (which civil unions does) but that we plaster over reality and simply call a club a spade to appease them.

So im pretty torn about this. I really think they are taking it too far and should accept completely equal rights but let traditional marriage stay what it always has been for the 95% of society that isnt gay. meh.
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Whenever I think about this issue, im torn between this type of person, who i have compassion and sympathy for



and this one, who is no different than v for vendetta mask wearing anarchists who just want to shock people and to force themselves on others and insist that we have to live by their , to many, offensive, behavior.


he wants me to not be able to teach my children that his fun games with other dudes (that he has every right to engage in in the privacy of his own home) that what they do is any different, in fact, or by law, from anything me and mommy do.
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... yea maybe you need to be more open minded.
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how can you take defense of human rights and rejection of discrimination and acts of violence and turn it into some kind of evil plot to destroy heterosexual society and institute mandatory sodomy education camps for every school age child in america?
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how can you take defense of human rights and rejection of discrimination and acts of violence and turn it into some kind of evil plot to destroy heterosexual society and institute mandatory sodomy education camps for every school age child in america?
its pretty simple, you just have to be a paranoid twat
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its easy just stop being so closed minded
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well, its only symbolic anyway. i dont think many govts care much what the UN say
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this and similar issues make me pretty frustrated. because i know certain people who i like, like terry and stoner and a few others, and people i know in real life, actually support this, and think its a good idea. and while i feel very strongly in abstract that its wrong, and inappropriate, and against nature and ultimately will hurt our society tremendously.... I also think those people who i like, and who want this soo bad, that they are good people and they dont want it to ruin society and they dont think their own actions will ruin society.

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So im pretty torn about this. I really think they are taking it too far and should accept completely equal rights but let traditional marriage stay what it always has been for the 95% of society that isnt gay. meh.
How will it hurt our society tremendously if it only involves a "militant angry tiny minority" or if 95% of society indeed isn't gay?
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well, its only symbolic anyway. i dont think many govts care much what the UN say
symbolically destroying the world maybe
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I think some research about Marriage and it's original intended purpose is in order here.

Perhaps someone who was really interested in informing themselves would learn that Marriage has evolved from it's original state.

Considerably.
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who even cares? marriage isn't really sacred anyway if you consider how prevalent divorce is
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