The Fall of Rupert Murdoch's Empire? - Page 2

Waves · 07-23-2011, 12:32 PM

rupert murdoch stands for old white people who refuse to change the way they work in an ever shrinking ever transparent world. his news is clearly bias and spun to control peoples opinions and in turn where they spend their money. its a complete sham when you compare his news to the rest of the media. not saying the media is unbiased its just that murdochs was THE MOST bias and corrupt and thats probably why its the first to go down. i think all of them will follow in time. its a good thing for the world because we can finally move onto news sources that are actually news sources and not just hilarious fronts for the corporate bullshit that rules the modern civilized world. eventually we're going to have to get rid of the idea of the "Right and left" completely and move onto more efficient systems of government and economy that incorporate actual liability and responsibility and shit.

John F. Kerry · 07-23-2011, 12:55 PM

thats cool and all, but just give me an example or two of what your talking a bout will you ? what would u like changed? in concrete terms? not to mention whether its rupert murdochs fault. ps im definately NOT defending that rich old bastad but im not gonna pull a casey anthony for no reason either. if it comes out that worse stuff happened, ill be more than happy to condemn him with that rest of ya.

farmergiles · 07-23-2011, 02:18 PM

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just give me an example or two of what your talking a bout will you ?

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At the Albert pub, squeezed next to the ground, football scarves and Liverpool memorabilia cover the walls and ceiling. The entrance of the pub has a poster mocking the front page of the Sun’s notorious splash, which appeared a few days after the tragedy. The tabloid’s masthead appears to be dripping in blood. “The truth,” it reads. “96 dead. Hillsborough 15th April 1989. Don’t buy the Sun.”

Tommy Doran, who works at the Albert, remembers one regular reading the Sun in a corner of the pub. “I went over to him and said: ‘What’s that?’ and he went: ‘The Sun.’ I just ripped it up into pieces in front of him.” Like many others on Merseyside, Doran will never forgive the decision of then editor Kelvin MacKenzie to lead on 19 April 1989 with a story headlined “The Truth” that was anything but. In it, quoting unnamed police sources and a Tory MP, it claimed drunken Liverpool fans urinated on and picked the pockets of the dead, hampered rescue efforts and attacked policemen.

Lord Taylor’s subsequent report into the tragedy later made it clear that it was the decision to open a gate to ease a crush outside the ground and a failure to direct fans away from the central pen once inside that was the main cause. The Sun’s slurs still linger and, according to some relatives of the victims, hampered a fight for justice that goes on to this day.

The hatred they feel for the paper still burns fiercely and the Sun has all but given up trying to repair relations.

Sun reporters know they will never get exclusives from former players who remember the disaster and its effect. Current players such as Steven Gerrard, who lost a cousin in the disaster, are similarly aware of the sensitivities involved.

Some at the paper believe it became the target for the anger of fans partly because of the failure of officials to accept responsibility. Managing editor Graham Dudman wrote two weeks ago: “Despite some members of the Hillsborough Family Support Group publicly accepting our apology, it made little difference on Merseyside where the community has to live with the knowledge that no police officer or ground official was ever convicted for the mistakes that led to the tragedy.” For most, the time for apologies has long gone. Tom Hughes, a Liverpool fan, said: “I would never buy it and people round here won’t buy it again for another 20 years. It has gone too far. There has been the apology from Kelvin MacKenzie then he took it back saying he was forced to apologise. What does that say to people?”

Don't Buy The Sun » Blog Archive » 20 years on, Liverpool has still not forgiven the newspaper it calls ‘The Scum’

The (UK) Sun is a best selling tabloid owned by Murdoch. True to form Murdoch blamed the editor Kelvin MacKenzie (who is undoubtedly a nasty piece of work).

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Numerous observers, such as ex-Sun deputy editor Roy Greenslade, left-wing journalist John Pilger, and playwright Dennis Potter, have commented more seriously on the alleged 'Murdoch effect' – and more specifically about the effect of the Sun during the MacKenzie era, supposedly by far the most significant example of this effect – on British journalism, the media, political climate, and intellectual culture, as well as on British culture and society at large. These commentators argued that Murdoch's media enterprise, and in particular MacKenzie's Sun, not only helped to keep Thatcher in power and enable the successful continuation of the "Thatcher revolution" while successfully smearing her left-wing opponents, but also had such a profound effect on all areas of the British media as to be perhaps the most significant contributor to the perceived "dumbing-down" of British news, popular entertainment, and culture across the board.

Kelvin MacKenzie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

John F. Kerry · 07-23-2011, 02:50 PM

i was talking about waves' dellusions of grand worldwide conspiracies. but thanks for the info.

like i said, if he did anything bad in the us so be it

farmergiles · 07-24-2011, 03:24 PM

Rupert Murdoch shirking responsibility over phone hacking, says police chief | Media | The Guardian

Rupert is wriggling

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Rupert Murdoch shirking responsibility over phone hacking, says police chief

Roach · 07-24-2011, 04:20 PM

^ at his age wriggling is normal

Roach · 07-24-2011, 04:26 PM

anyone remember william randolph hearst ?

yellow journalism ?

anyone.

the one who aided anslinger in promoting prohibition of the dreaded marijuana.
because his timber investments would have been in jeopardy if newspapers were made from hemp.

farmergiles · 07-24-2011, 04:44 PM

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anyone remember william randolph hearst ?

yellow journalism ?

The difference is Murdoch does not make any concessions to

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dramatic sympathy with the "underdog" against the system.

Waves · 07-24-2011, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by John F. Kerry

i was talking about waves' dellusions of grand worldwide conspiracies. but thanks for the info.

like i said, if he did anything bad in the us so be it

im not talking about conspiracies at all lol

im talking about shady business tactics, corruption, bias in news that claims to be "fair and balanced", etc.

these are all very real whether or not you want to see them yourself.

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thats cool and all, but just give me an example or two of what your talking a bout will you ?

This entire fucking scandal is an example of what im talking about.

Jesus. I know you wear some hardcore blinders but cmon, cant you make that connection yourself?

DdC · 07-25-2011, 04:11 PM

Slime-ball yellow journalists like Rupert provide us with the same fiction the dung worriers sell to vulnerable school kids in Daryl Gates DARE classes. Censorship, omissions, diversions, red herrings, hobgoblins, lies, myth, false information, bias gossip. A war on free speech by a corporate media pushing reefer madness, intimidation and murder just to keep America drug free and gung ho for spending tax dollars killing people and caging others. Not for food and shelter. Yellow Journalists like Pulitzer and Hearst and then Murdock are old style newsmen. They sell news stories, not truth or facts as Congress is supposed too. Commentary and Opinions are based on an agenda to sell advertisements. Back room deals like the Cheney Enron Arabs or planning Iraq are sold to the public through worms like Murduck. Same "public airwaves" programmed to "fit" the image. News that's fit to print. Koch and the entire Iran Contra gang of Neocons. Boosh, Delay, Armey, Norquest and the entire christian confederacy exporting jobs, busting regulations, safety nets and the economy. Pay up and trickle down some place else. At least if you pay for the poor they spend it here. Qerry you're losing status as anyone who can be trusted with a rational thought. If Neocon squawkers didn't give you answers you'd lose it. Its not a game, real Americans are hurt by the Neocon acts and their weak lapdogs gossip. Murdock was as instrumental as Rush and the clones after him to divide the country and kill it. International and Multinational corporations have no allegiance to the US. China is taking our technology the same as a spy only through legal extortion. 10 years they won't need us for anything.

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"...somebody has to take governments' place,
and business seems to me to be a logical entity to do it."
- David Rockefeller,
Newsweek International, Feb 1 1999

Thanks to bozo's like the naive twitbag symbol worshiping baby killers falling lock stock and barrel over King Rupie. You traded your sovereignty for a two tier classism that most are never going to be part of short of winning the lottery. Then its usually very temporary. 20 years a schoolin and they put you on the day shift. Stuck in the lower tiers of the Titanic. Easy to divert the guilt of a maggot like Rupie by screaming out conspiracy. Or other buzzwords to let these moneysluts escape Justice and continue stealing our American heritage. Conspiracy might be asking if you have a ticket for the underground towns TRW's been building? What Fox prints is in stone the same as what you post on the net. Trying to deny it makes you sound all retarded. Releasing unclassified tapes of corruption and illegal corporate activities aren't even in the same ball park as Yellow journalists Profiteers. Rupie got busted for stealing dead girls emails. Assange didn't steal anything, his followers hacked some places to send a message. Shifting blame game of shame to tame the Lame like JFQ. Such a troll. If slimeballs take my taxes to cheat the people behind their backs then we need whistle blowers like Assange to deal with it. The corruption has become almost status quo. Just look at the scam Ganjawar. Just read the twitbogs whiny pleas.

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DEAth Lies & LAPDog Perversions...

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Non-cooperation with evil is as much a duty as cooperation with good.
-- Mohandas Gandhi

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CENSORSHIP

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"We the People are the rightful master of both congress and the courts -
not to overthrow the Constitution,
but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."
~ Abraham Lincoln

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Bong Hits 4 Jesus

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Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it.
Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus of judges, police, prisons and
gendarmes at the service of the plunderers, and treats the victim --
when he defends himself -- as a criminal.
-- Frederic Bastiat, "The Law"

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"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."~ Reichsmarschall Hermann Goering,
Nazi Air Force (Luftwaffe) commander,
the Nuremberg Trials

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"Terrorist operatives infiltrate our communities, plotting, planning and waiting to kill again....To those who scare peace loving people with phantoms of lost liberty, my message is this: your tactics only aid terrorists."
~ United States Attorney General John Ashcroft

Closing Ranks on MAPA/Secret Searches Bill Passes

Corporations That Own Our Media

This judge gets it by Pete Guither
This was from an article about a former college student who mugged Kal Penn at gunpoint and tried to explain his actions due to struggling with drug use.

I never have any sympathy for people who try to excuse their violent crimes because of their drug use. No, it is the individual who is responsible, not the drug.

'After Two Puffs, I Was Turned Into a Bat'

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Anslinger's assertions were rarely questioned, and his few critics, like the anti-prohibitionist mayor of New York, Frank La Guardia, were subjected to smears and rebuttals. Anslinger swept all before him for decades, to the extent that his success began to pose its own problems. Admitting to marijuana use became a popular way of avoiding conscription, and murderers cited the brainwashing powers of "an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality and death" to plead diminished responsibility for their crimes. Their claims were frequently supported by an expert witness, the pharmacologist Dr James Munch, who claimed that "after two puffs on a marijuana cigarette, I was turned into a bat". Sentences were commuted from death to imprisonment on Munch's evidence, and Anslinger had to ask him to stop testifying.

NFL's Buzzkill
Police also claimed that the availability of cannabis in the Netherlands probably helped to defuse any violence. Scores of ticketless England fans gathered in coffee shops in Eindhoven, where cannabis is sold and smoked, to watch the game, greeting the defeat with mild disappointment and unusually, gentle applause. "It (cannabis) may have helped relax them," Mr Beelan added. "Even the hooligans enjoyed the party - and they told our officers. There were lots of things for fans to do and everybody had a good time."[/quote]
* Fans Too Relaxed for Fights
* Cannabis Helps Keep Fans Calm
* Euro 2000 Soccer Violence Could Vanish in a Puff

HARRY ANSLINGER'S GORE FILE reefermadnessmuseum

Reefer Madness Newspaper Headlines

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AXE MURDER - KILLS WHOLE FAMILY: A seventeen-year-old boy in a Southern state smoked a marijuana cigarette handed him in a poolroom. When he arrived home, he imagined that his family had been conspiring to dismember him. To forestall this, he hacked his father, mother, sister and two brothers to death with an ax

GIRL SLAYERS: In New Jersey, a young woman recently confessed that she and a girl companion lad held up and coldly murdered a bus driver. She had been smoking marijuana cigarettes or "reefers," she said and didn't know what she was doing. -- The CHRISTIAN CENTURY - June 29, 1938

CHILD RAPIST: Recently in Baltimore a young man was sent to the electric chair for having raped a girl while under the influence of marihuana.
-- Anslinger 1937 Congressional Testimony.

"Cannabis smoking does not lead directly to mental or physical deterioration... Those who have consumed marijuana for a period of years showed no mental or physical deterioration which may be attributed to the drug. The use of marijuana does not lead to morphine or heroin or cocaine addiction and no effort is made to create a market for these narcotics by stimulating the practice of marijuana smoking. Marijuana is not the determining factor in the commission of major crime....The publicity concerning the catastrophic effect of marijuana smoking in New York City, is unfounded"
~ LaGuardia Commission Report, 1944

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And I, I walked over to the, to the bench there, and there is, Group W's where they put you if you may not be moral enough to join the army after committing your special crime, and there was all kinds of mean nasty ugly looking people on the bench there. Mother rapers. Father stabbers. Father rapers! Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! And they was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on the bench next to me. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanest father raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean 'n' ugly 'n' nasty 'n' horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to me and said, "Kid, whad'ya get?" I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay $50 and pick up the garbage." He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?" And I said, "Littering." And they all moved away from me on the bench there, and the hairy eyeball and all kinds of mean nasty things, till I said, "And creating a nuisance...

KID, HAVE YOU REHABILITATED YOURSELF?

I went over to the sargent, said, "Sargeant, you got a lot a damn gall to ask me if I've rehabilitated myself, I mean, I mean, I mean that just, I'm sittin' here on the bench, I mean I'm sittin here on the Group W bench 'cause you want to know if I'm moral enough join the army, burn women, kids, houses and villages after bein' a litterbug." He looked at me and said, "Kid, we don't like your kind, and we're gonna send you fingerprints off to Washington."
~ Alice's Restaurant By Arlo Guthrie

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07-23-2011, 12:32 PM	#21 (permalink)
Waves Duderino Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: chiburbs Posts: 15,405 Thanks: 991 Thanked 4,036 Times in 2,224 Posts	rupert murdoch stands for old white people who refuse to change the way they work in an ever shrinking ever transparent world. his news is clearly bias and spun to control peoples opinions and in turn where they spend their money. its a complete sham when you compare his news to the rest of the media. not saying the media is unbiased its just that murdochs was THE MOST bias and corrupt and thats probably why its the first to go down. i think all of them will follow in time. its a good thing for the world because we can finally move onto news sources that are actually news sources and not just hilarious fronts for the corporate bullshit that rules the modern civilized world. eventually we're going to have to get rid of the idea of the "Right and left" completely and move onto more efficient systems of government and economy that incorporate actual liability and responsibility and shit. __________________ On this life that we call home The years go fast and the days go so slow

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Roach Victoria Aut Mors Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7,184 Thanks: 2,372 Thanked 1,987 Times in 1,509 Posts	^ at his age wriggling is normal __________________ לזיין את הקופים

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Roach Victoria Aut Mors Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7,184 Thanks: 2,372 Thanked 1,987 Times in 1,509 Posts	anyone remember william randolph hearst ? yellow journalism ? anyone. the one who aided anslinger in promoting prohibition of the dreaded marijuana. because his timber investments would have been in jeopardy if newspapers were made from hemp. __________________ לזיין את הקופים

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