Jewish Pork

I actually just tried looking into what part of the budget funds the GI bill. Couldn't fine anything. Just saw a bunch of articles saying they were looking to balance the budget by cutting my benefits. Guess that's what I get for working though

kamikazi89

it's probably a sub committee in the house..those assignments are gold(for a lobbyist)

..that's what you get when you make a deal with Uncle Sam

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kamikazi89

oh kay, you're right..it's not congress, it's magic..these things just write themselves into the budget

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I'm sorry, dude. It's just that you kept going on and on about lobbyists; and I realize that they're a huge part of the problem with our country. It just made me think of that picture

kamikazi89

i think of it as a stimulus package..the post world war2 economy was a result of aggressive government spending and infrastructure investment
GI bill
VA loans
really created the middle class and what we commonly refer to now as the suburbs

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So if we can't raise taxes, why not make the folks pay what they should?

If the corporations enjoy a 14% tax rate then maybe they should actually pay what that 14% adds up to?



Loopholes bought by the lobby big enough to drive plane loads of cash through.


I wouldn't even mind if the asshole down the street with his fat wife, cranking out a kid every ten fucking months doesn't get his refund this year. Maybe when the reward is NOT spawning another deficient drone to clog up life, folks might learn to depend less on being stupid and led.




But I digress...

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I think you might be on to something. Companies should be taxed on their entire operations (if they are incorporated in the United States). I don't think outsourcing should be rewarded.


I've also heard Bill Maher make a fairly convincing argument on why families with kids should pay more in taxes instead of getting tax credits for having kids.

I'd probably even agree to getting rid of the mortgage tax deduction.

Actually, I'm completely all in for making the tax code as simple as possible. The government guided economy needs to go.

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kamikazi89

the post world war2 economy was a result of aggressive government spending and infrastructure investment
GI bill
VA loans
really created the middle class and what we commonly refer to now as the suburbs

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Jewish Pork

You've convinced me... All the government needs to do is spend more! We'll spend our way out of debt!!! I finally get it!!!

kamikazi89

allyou have to do is manage debt responsibly...increa se revenues, reduce spending

what i said about post world war 2 america is absolute truth

the GIbill
VA
went a long way in building the middle class..
..and cheap oil didn't hurt either

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stoneric

So in our wonderful capitalistic system that produces 12% poverty we can only assume that irresponsibility is the only reason people failed to plan for retirement? So why exactly did you join the military? Maybe no jobs to be had? I guess you were lucky and our major export, which seems to be killing with impunity, was looking for some warm bodies. Hang on buddy, you'll find that your self righteous attitude will change abruptly once life starts kicking your ass around.

John F. Kerry

come on folks we got some good discussion going on here but u kids play nice ya heard?

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John F. Kerry

lol at that pic

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Jewish Pork

Speaking of poverty, what's been up with Greece, Italy, Spain, and Ireland. I thought socialism was the path to prosperity for everyone. The problem is that when people don't have to work for a living, they usually don't. I didn't create the laws of nature; but I at least like to think that I understand them.

And there are lots of reasons why people didn't save for retirement, and I can pretty much trace them all back to being irresponsible. For example, no one forces people to have kids 3-5 kids... It's also not a right to own a big screen TV, 2 cars (or 1 car for that matter), or even a house/property.

I'd also argue that everyone has many opportunities throughout their life to make something of themselves. It just so happens that it's usually the people with intelligence and determination that take advantage of them. Why should those people be penalized for not taking the path of least resistance?

Jewish Pork

That's a very Keynesian opinion...

I'm sure that it was just a coincidence that the time period that you're talking about just so happened to be one of the most innovative times in the history of our species. I'm sure it was all due to govt spending though.

Jewish Pork

You'll like this one

stoneric

You'd think in the land of capitalistic opportunity one would be able to have kids, a car and maybe even a roof over their heads AND still be able to save a little for the twilight years. But in reality , in order for the capitalist to get fat, they need some poor folk to round off the numbers. These would be the irresponsible who lack intelligence and determination. Funny thing, a little bad luck and you're one of them.

Jewish Pork

No one is stopping them. I just don't want to have to pay for them to have it.


That's not just being a little hyperbolic?


So now the producers are just lucky... And the moocher are just unlucky... I guess doctors are just moonlighting at the clinics to keep themselves busy while they're not at their real jobs, making a killing at the black jack tables.