The desparation of deprivation myth

John F. Kerry · 08-30-2011, 02:39 PM

The Desperation-of-Deprivation Myth - Mark Steyn - National Review Online

awesome totally awesome article, read it thru and have a mind change.

ps. im totally sympathetic to the fact that the unemployment rate is very high and its hard for people to find jobs- this is not meant to shit on the 1/4 of people who are in shitty circumstances and trying to better themselves, but to the 3/4s of em who are happy to live off the fat of chinese loans.

zerodown · 08-30-2011, 03:22 PM

mind changing? what part changed your mind? why? how? what didn't you know that you read there?

John F. Kerry · 08-30-2011, 04:31 PM

i meant it was so clearly laid out and obvious that it should change other people's minds.

i wish some libs would give me articles like this to defend their positions. it would at least make me work to think of what i think.

stoneric · 08-30-2011, 05:49 PM

The article was scattered all over the fucking place. The guy sounds like an idiot.

Terry · 08-30-2011, 06:36 PM

Why do conservative "intellectuals" always have to play the victim or give themselves the role of persona non grata? It's fucking annoying and I don't want to read an article whose first three paragraphs are self serving egotistical masturbation put to print?

Terry · 08-30-2011, 06:37 PM

"Boo hoo woe is me I'm writing an article for the National Review one of the most widely read opinion magazines in the country." Give me a break.

kamikazi89 · 08-30-2011, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by stoneric

The article was scattered all over the fucking place. The guy sounds like an idiot.

the whole non-profit thing was outa nowhere..

Roach · 08-30-2011, 06:51 PM

desperation ?

seems to be why the self centered Mark Steyn wrote this drivel.

for some reason he felt it necessary to take some sort of position.

John F. Kerry · 08-30-2011, 07:22 PM

i thought it was pretty funny when he said vermont is becomming a non profit.

its pretty funny how the society is becomming stratified.

if roach would have given it a chance he might have realized it was ragging on not just lazy poor people but lazy trustfunders who want to basically have a cool office and drive nice cars and not do any real work, work for a non profit...lol... its ok when like 1 person out of 300 want to do that... we need many more profits than non profits if were gonna get out of 15 trillion in debt

kamikazi89 · 08-30-2011, 07:37 PM

Capitalist Case For Nonprofit Health Insurance - Forbes.com

**SageTree** · 08-31-2011, 07:27 AM

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its pretty funny how the society is becoming stratified.

really 'becoming'????

Roach · 08-31-2011, 07:41 AM

some one learned a new word

it's becoming obvious to some, how stratified America society really is.

**SageTree** · 08-31-2011, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Roach

some one learned a new word

it's becoming obvious to some, how stratified America society really is.

No doubt.

Fortress America is a mental state as well.

So I guess it's nice to know that some kids are taking a 'peek' over that 'wall', at least.

John F. Kerry · 09-02-2011, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kamikazi89

Capitalist Case For Nonprofit Health Insurance - Forbes.com

thanks for that kamikazi, didnt notice it before. i appreciate such articles yea tho i may disagree with them

Roach · 09-02-2011, 03:00 PM

Republicans Raffle Off a Glock in Gabrielle Giffords' District

Down in the great state of Arizona, Pima County Republicans had themselves a great idea: Let's celebrate the kids goin' back to school by havin' a gun raffle! And for extra karma points, let's raffle off a gun from the same manufacturer as the one that killed a bunch of people (including a little girl) and almost killed Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, right here in our county, back in January! And heck, let's publish a tasteful announcement in our newsletter! Wheeeeeee!

"Get yourself a new Glock 23 .40 cal handgun for just 10 bucks — if your name is drawn," the newsletter reads.

A picture of the handgun, being raffled with three 12-round magazines and a case, also appears in the newsletter. The Republicans are selling 125 tickets.

Mike Shaw, chairman pro tem of the Pima County Republicans, and Frank Antenori, a Republican state senator who has filed paperwork for a potential run against Giffords, did not immediately return phone calls seeking comment.

I know what you're thinking, but it's okay! Jared Lee Loughner didn't murder six Arizonans and wound Giffords with a Glock 23 .40 caliber gun. He used a Glock 19 9 mm, so this auction is totally normal and not at all upsetting or insensitive. Plus, the Glock website says the Glock 19 is "ideal for versatile use" (like, you know, murdering children and grown-ups), whereas the Glock 23 is the "official service pistol" of the FBI, which makes all of this downright patriotic. Thanks, Pima County Republicans!

I'm surprised Palin wasn't selling stick on targets.

John F. Kerry · 09-02-2011, 03:19 PM

right but,

in slightly more recent news

dems call tea party terrorists - Google Search

~1~ · 09-02-2011, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roach

for some reason he felt it necessary to take some sort of position.

I would imagine the rent/mortgage/car note was due...

~1~ · 09-02-2011, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John F. Kerry

i meant it was so clearly laid out and obvious that it should change other people's minds.

Nope j., you're still a tool...

DdC · 09-02-2011, 06:14 PM

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"It's very dramatic when two people come together to work something out. It's easy to take a gun and annihilate your opposition, but what is really exciting to me is to see people with differing views come together and finally respect each other."
— Fred Rogers (The World According to Mister Rogers)

Warrantless, No knock secret sneak peek sniff and flush searches...
Does the 2nd amendment include land mines under the sidewalk?

Victims of Teabog rhetoric?

Sarah Palin listed Gifford on her "targets" list during the 2010 campaign.We are told that had nothing to do with today's shooting, because violent speech has nothing to do with violent actions. That's the right-wing mantra today, and that was the right-wing mantra last year, when Gifford's office was attacked.

After she voted for health care reform last year, Gifford received death threats and her office windows were broken. The Washington Post reported in March on a right-wing former militia member's call to break windows of health care reform supporters:

"So, if you wish to send a message that Pelosi and her party [that they] cannot fail to hear, break their windows," Vanderboegh wrote on the blog, Sipsey Street Irregulars. "Break them NOW. Break them and run to break again. Break them under cover of night. Break them in broad daylight. Break them and await arrest in willful, principled civil disobedience. Break them with rocks. Break them with slingshots. Break them with baseball bats. But BREAK THEM."

Quote:

"All propaganda must be so popular and on such an intellectual level, that even the most stupid of those towards whom it is directed will understand it. Therefore, the intellectual level of the propaganda must be lower the larger the number of people who are to be influenced by it."

BREAK THEM "targets"

"Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way around, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise."
~ Benito Mussolini,
London Sunday Express, December 8, 1935

DdC · 09-02-2011, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John F. Qerry

right but,
in even more recent news
Americans call teabag party terrorists - Google Search

Well Duh! Neocon Teabogs Really Are "Bloodlusting Terrorists"

Quote:

Neocon

Neoconservative. Criminally insane spenders that believe in killing brown people for the new world order. Huge Orwellian government, unfathomable amounts of spending, bomb tens of thousands of people to death to rearrange the globe. Take the worst aspects of the liberal and conservative positions and combine them into one and you would have a NeoCon. Neocons are the greatest threat to life, liberty and property this country has ever known.

Morally idealistic conservatatives. neocon is short for neo-conservative. Neocons separate themselves from Republicans that are traditionally fiscal conservative.

08-30-2011, 03:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
zerodown Mafutero Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: PR Posts: 782 Thanks: 41 Thanked 169 Times in 131 Posts	mind changing? what part changed your mind? why? how? what didn't you know that you read there? __________________ "I've seen people so poor all they got is money." We have to learn to unlearn Its not contradiction, its amendment Not everything we see is reality Not everything we hear is the truth Not everything we're taught helps us grow ~Cultura Profetica "La locura se lleva en la cabeza y las drogas en los bolsillos" ~Roberto Iniesta

08-30-2011, 06:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
Terry Hello Darkness Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Moscow, Idaho Posts: 8,538 Thanks: 2,130 Thanked 2,392 Times in 1,189 Posts	Why do conservative "intellectuals" always have to play the victim or give themselves the role of persona non grata? It's fucking annoying and I don't want to read an article whose first three paragraphs are self serving egotistical masturbation put to print? __________________ I don't know but I've been told, If you never die you'll never grow old

08-30-2011, 06:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
Terry Hello Darkness Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Moscow, Idaho Posts: 8,538 Thanks: 2,130 Thanked 2,392 Times in 1,189 Posts	"Boo hoo woe is me I'm writing an article for the National Review one of the most widely read opinion magazines in the country." Give me a break. __________________ I don't know but I've been told, If you never die you'll never grow old

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Roach Victoria Aut Mors Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7,184 Thanks: 2,372 Thanked 1,987 Times in 1,509 Posts	desperation ? seems to be why the self centered Mark Steyn wrote this drivel. for some reason he felt it necessary to take some sort of position. __________________ לזיין את הקופים Last edited by Roach; 08-30-2011 at 07:15 PM.

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Roach Victoria Aut Mors Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7,184 Thanks: 2,372 Thanked 1,987 Times in 1,509 Posts	some one learned a new word it's becoming obvious to some, how stratified America society really is. __________________ לזיין את הקופים

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stoneric bougeman Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,646 Thanks: 704 Thanked 1,512 Times in 1,067 Posts	The article was scattered all over the fucking place. The guy sounds like an idiot.

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Roach Victoria Aut Mors Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7,184 Thanks: 2,372 Thanked 1,987 Times in 1,509 Posts	Republicans Raffle Off a Glock in Gabrielle Giffords' District Down in the great state of Arizona, Pima County Republicans had themselves a great idea: Let's celebrate the kids goin' back to school by havin' a gun raffle! And for extra karma points, let's raffle off a gun from the same manufacturer as the one that killed a bunch of people (including a little girl) and almost killed Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, right here in our county, back in January! And heck, let's publish a tasteful announcement in our newsletter! Wheeeeeee! "Get yourself a new Glock 23 .40 cal handgun for just 10 bucks — if your name is drawn," the newsletter reads. A picture of the handgun, being raffled with three 12-round magazines and a case, also appears in the newsletter. The Republicans are selling 125 tickets. Mike Shaw, chairman pro tem of the Pima County Republicans, and Frank Antenori, a Republican state senator who has filed paperwork for a potential run against Giffords, did not immediately return phone calls seeking comment. I know what you're thinking, but it's okay! Jared Lee Loughner didn't murder six Arizonans and wound Giffords with a Glock 23 .40 caliber gun. He used a Glock 19 9 mm, so this auction is totally normal and not at all upsetting or insensitive. Plus, the Glock website says the Glock 19 is "ideal for versatile use" (like, you know, murdering children and grown-ups), whereas the Glock 23 is the "official service pistol" of the FBI, which makes all of this downright patriotic. Thanks, Pima County Republicans! I'm surprised Palin wasn't selling stick on targets. Attached Images __________________ לזיין את הקופים

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