Libyan rebels don't like black people

stoneric · 09-05-2011, 11:13 AM

HRW to Libyan Rebels: Stop Mass Arrests of Black People
Rights Group Urges Rebels to Stop Arresting People Over Skin Color

by Jason Ditz, September 04, 2011

In a statement issued today top humanitarian organization Human Rights Watch urged the NATO-backed Libyan rebel forces to stop arbitrarily arresting black people and to release everyone being held with only skin color as evidence.

“It’s a dangerous time to be dark-skinned in Tripoli,” noted HRW’s Middle East and North Africa Director Sarah Leah Whitson, urging the rebels to stop arresting people unless they have concrete evidence of wrongdoing.

This seems unlikely, however, as the rebels have made it all but official policy to arrest anyone blacker than usual since they took over Tripoli, rounding up African migrants en masse and accusing them of all being “mercenaries” for the Gadhafi regime.

The Gadhafi regime had indeed courted mercenary fighters from neighboring nations, but oil-rich Libya also has a long history of migrant workers from these same nations, and many of them were unable to flee when the civil war began earlier this year. Now they remain in prison under suspicion, with constant talk of mass executions over their heads.
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Of course we had no prior knowledge this might happen.

eldizle · 09-05-2011, 11:55 AM

people will always look for a reason to commit this type of stuff. they can't voice their xenophobia during times of plenty-calamity always brings a voice to fucks who play at this crap

**Home Wrecker** · 09-05-2011, 06:52 PM

They are probably still better than Qadafi

Snowmayne · 09-06-2011, 01:21 AM

^LOL

Under Ghadaffi, Libya has attained the highest standard of living in Africa.

Now lets watch as the country turns into a 3rd world middle east shit hole with the rebels wanting to draft resolutions to run the country under Sharia Law.

Terry · 09-06-2011, 12:45 PM

^Look out mr youtube political scientist is on the case.

**Home Wrecker** · 09-06-2011, 12:54 PM

That video seemed a little one-sided, imo the real world is rarely that black and white.

kamikazi89 · 01-26-2012, 05:37 AM

The human rights “success” in Libya - Salon.com

Quote:

Obviously, the Gadaffi and Saddam regimes were horrible human rights abusers. But the point is that one cannot celebrate a human rights success based merely on the invasion and overthrow of a bad regime; it is necessary to know what one has replaced them with. Ironically, those who are the loudest advocates for these wars and then prematurely celebrate the outcome (and themselves) bear significant responsibility for these subsequent abuses: by telling the world that the invasion was a success, it causes the aftermath — the most important part — to be neglected. There is nothing noble about invading and bombing a country into regime change if what one ushers in is mass instability along with tyranny and abuse by a different regime: typically one that is much more sympathetic to the invading regime-changers.

That last point underscores the other key lesson from these types of invasions. They are almost always sold by appeal to human rights concerns — Iraqi babies pulled from incubators and Saddam’s rape rooms — but that is very rarely their actual objective. When the West invokes human rights concerns to justify an attack on a dictator whom it has long tolerated (and often even supported), that is rather compelling evidence that human rights is the packaging for the war, not the goal. The fact that it is not the goal means more than just another war sold deceitfully based on pretexts: it means that human rights concerns will not drive what happens after the invasion is completed. The materials interests of the invaders are highly likely to be served, but not the human rights of the people of the invaded country. Those who supported the war in Libya — which (like the war in Iraq) included numerous people who did so out of a genuine, well-intentioned desire to see a vile tyrant vanquished — have a particular responsibility to ensure that the same tyranny is not replicated by the forces supported by the invading armies.

All of these points are particularly worth keeping in mind with the mounting sanctions regimes and other forms of attack aimed at the two countries that just so happen to be those which most thwart the interests of the U.S. and Israel in that region: Iran and Syria (indeed, some of the most vocal supporters of the Libya intervention are now calling on the same to be done in Syria). Obviously, the regimes in both of those countries are serious human rights abusers, but no more so (and, compared to Iran, less) than some of the U.S.’s closest allies in that region. Although it will be easy to sell, the U.S. is not interested in regime change in those two countries because of human rights or democracy concerns; its steadfast support for the regimes of Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and other repressive tyrants conclusively proves that. That’s not an argument against opposing the regimes in Syria and Iran, but it is an argument for separating fact from fiction about what the real aims are. Convincing well-intentioned people to support a war in order to depose a wretched tyrant is an easy thing to do — alas, it’s probably too easy to do, since it’s usually what leads to great mischief, human suffering, and even more tyranny under a new name.

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The Rev · 01-26-2012, 07:32 AM

If Libyans hate black people, why do live in a black neighborhood (Africa)?

The Rev

Roach · 01-26-2012, 07:50 AM

I don't feel it's any of America's business what Libyans do in Libya.

If America was energy independant there would be no concern.

It's still all about the oil, a.k.a..."American interests".

If Americans can't eliminate their love affair with oil, there should be a wind turbine, oil well/gas well, fracking operation, solar array, geothermal, hydroelectric, or other form of alternatative energy production, on every available inch of it's territory, coastal waters and national (state) parks, and dormant farmland.

HTAM · 01-26-2012, 08:59 AM

I think we should worry more about the black people in THIS country, than any other.

Roach · 01-26-2012, 10:05 AM

^ yep, rather than trying to "dictate" policy around the world, let's get back to taking care of us. (that's U.S.)

kamikazi89 · 01-26-2012, 11:57 AM

stoneric · 01-26-2012, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roach

^ yep, rather than trying to "dictate" policy around the world, let's get back to taking care of us. (that's U.S.)

Remember that when you vote.

Roach · 01-26-2012, 02:19 PM

Oh I will.

Nothing has changed.

I'm still proposing that all who choose to vote, vote straight Democrat.

On several blogs and forums.

Terry · 01-26-2012, 02:51 PM

Why vote straight anything? Voting on the issues is better imo.

I've seen you post that you think American Democrats support democracy, as in small d democracy, but I have never once heard a Democrat say that ever, in fact as I recall from my American History class they were called Democrats by their detractors who wanted ppl to think they'd turn the country into a free-for-all anarchy and the name stuck even though the Democrats were small r republicans (you follow?).

Democrats support and participate in the American REPUBLIC, which is not a bad thing, both ideologies have their pros and cons, just wanted to clarify American Democrats are not going to try and switch us from a republic to a democracy anytime soon, certainly not in our lifetimes. That is not how American politics or politicians have ever worked or worked towards, least of all the two big parties.

Roach · 01-26-2012, 02:56 PM

America is unwilling to have online voting on each and every issue.

You'd have to cut out all the lobbying and other bullshit "talking to death" of legislation that goes on .

Roach · 01-26-2012, 02:58 PM

Quote:

I recall from my American History class

believe it or not, history books are rewritten all the time...just Ask Sarah Palin.

Roach · 01-26-2012, 03:01 PM

The republican platform is rooted it "fiscal responsability"

Yet they have been the most fiscally irresponsible party in my lifetime, (probably yours too

)

stoneric · 01-26-2012, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roach

Oh I will.

Nothing has changed.

I'm still proposing that all who choose to vote, vote straight Democrat.

On several blogs and forums.

But they also want to dictate policy around the world.

kamikazi89 · 01-30-2012, 11:38 AM

it's the kindler gentler machine gun hand, updated

09-05-2011, 11:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
stoneric bougeman Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,646 Thanks: 704 Thanked 1,512 Times in 1,067 Posts	Libyan rebels don't like black people HRW to Libyan Rebels: Stop Mass Arrests of Black People Rights Group Urges Rebels to Stop Arresting People Over Skin Color by Jason Ditz, September 04, 2011 In a statement issued today top humanitarian organization Human Rights Watch urged the NATO-backed Libyan rebel forces to stop arbitrarily arresting black people and to release everyone being held with only skin color as evidence. “It’s a dangerous time to be dark-skinned in Tripoli,” noted HRW’s Middle East and North Africa Director Sarah Leah Whitson, urging the rebels to stop arresting people unless they have concrete evidence of wrongdoing. This seems unlikely, however, as the rebels have made it all but official policy to arrest anyone blacker than usual since they took over Tripoli, rounding up African migrants en masse and accusing them of all being “mercenaries” for the Gadhafi regime. The Gadhafi regime had indeed courted mercenary fighters from neighboring nations, but oil-rich Libya also has a long history of migrant workers from these same nations, and many of them were unable to flee when the civil war began earlier this year. Now they remain in prison under suspicion, with constant talk of mass executions over their heads. ****************** **************** ***** Of course we had no prior knowledge this might happen.

09-05-2011, 06:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
Home Wrecker material boy Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ishmaelia Posts: 4,776 Thanks: 1,625 Thanked 853 Times in 421 Posts	They are probably still better than Qadafi __________________ Mr. Pink: You kill anybody? Mr. White: A few cops. Mr. Pink: No real people? Mr. White: Just cops.

09-06-2011, 01:21 AM	#4 (permalink)
Snowmayne Hero of the Internet Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,740 Thanks: 494 Thanked 4,294,967,295 Times in 958 Posts	^LOL Under Ghadaffi, Libya has attained the highest standard of living in Africa. Now lets watch as the country turns into a 3rd world middle east shit hole with the rebels wanting to draft resolutions to run the country under Sharia Law. __________________ We women, we gain weight because we accumulate so much wisdom and knowledge that there isn't enough space in our heads, and it spreads all over our bodies. We are not fat, we are greatly cultivated. Every time I see my curves in the mirror, I tell myself: "How amazing am I ?! " Last edited by Snowmayne; 09-06-2011 at 01:26 AM.

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09-06-2011, 12:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
Home Wrecker material boy Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ishmaelia Posts: 4,776 Thanks: 1,625 Thanked 853 Times in 421 Posts	That video seemed a little one-sided, imo the real world is rarely that black and white. __________________ Mr. Pink: You kill anybody? Mr. White: A few cops. Mr. Pink: No real people? Mr. White: Just cops.

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eldizle Love. Share it. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Inside a Microgram Scale Posts: 5,207 Thanks: 978 Thanked 591 Times in 423 Posts	people will always look for a reason to commit this type of stuff. they can't voice their xenophobia during times of plenty-calamity always brings a voice to fucks who play at this crap

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Roach Victoria Aut Mors Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7,184 Thanks: 2,372 Thanked 1,987 Times in 1,509 Posts	I don't feel it's any of America's business what Libyans do in Libya. If America was energy independant there would be no concern. It's still all about the oil, a.k.a..."American interests". If Americans can't eliminate their love affair with oil, there should be a wind turbine, oil well/gas well, fracking operation, solar array, geothermal, hydroelectric, or other form of alternatative energy production, on every available inch of it's territory, coastal waters and national (state) parks, and dormant farmland. __________________ לזיין את הקופים Last edited by Roach; 01-26-2012 at 08:02 AM.

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HTAM Old School Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,872 Thanks: 2,368 Thanked 2,117 Times in 1,179 Posts	I think we should worry more about the black people in THIS country, than any other.

01-26-2012, 10:05 AM	#11 (permalink)
Roach Victoria Aut Mors Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7,184 Thanks: 2,372 Thanked 1,987 Times in 1,509 Posts	^ yep, rather than trying to "dictate" policy around the world, let's get back to taking care of us. (that's U.S.) __________________ לזיין את הקופים

01-26-2012, 02:19 PM	#14 (permalink)
Roach Victoria Aut Mors Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7,184 Thanks: 2,372 Thanked 1,987 Times in 1,509 Posts	Oh I will. Nothing has changed. I'm still proposing that all who choose to vote, vote straight Democrat. On several blogs and forums. __________________ לזיין את הקופים

01-26-2012, 02:51 PM	#15 (permalink)
Terry Hello Darkness Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Moscow, Idaho Posts: 8,538 Thanks: 2,130 Thanked 2,392 Times in 1,189 Posts	Why vote straight anything? Voting on the issues is better imo. I've seen you post that you think American Democrats support democracy, as in small d democracy, but I have never once heard a Democrat say that ever, in fact as I recall from my American History class they were called Democrats by their detractors who wanted ppl to think they'd turn the country into a free-for-all anarchy and the name stuck even though the Democrats were small r republicans (you follow?). Democrats support and participate in the American REPUBLIC, which is not a bad thing, both ideologies have their pros and cons, just wanted to clarify American Democrats are not going to try and switch us from a republic to a democracy anytime soon, certainly not in our lifetimes. That is not how American politics or politicians have ever worked or worked towards, least of all the two big parties. __________________ I don't know but I've been told, If you never die you'll never grow old

01-26-2012, 02:56 PM	#16 (permalink)
Roach Victoria Aut Mors Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7,184 Thanks: 2,372 Thanked 1,987 Times in 1,509 Posts	America is unwilling to have online voting on each and every issue. You'd have to cut out all the lobbying and other bullshit "talking to death" of legislation that goes on . __________________ לזיין את הקופים

01-26-2012, 03:01 PM	#18 (permalink)
Roach Victoria Aut Mors Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7,184 Thanks: 2,372 Thanked 1,987 Times in 1,509 Posts	The republican platform is rooted it "fiscal responsability" Yet they have been the most fiscally irresponsible party in my lifetime, (probably yours too ) __________________ לזיין את הקופים

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