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Old 10-06-2011, 03:43 PM   #21 (permalink)
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No one is talking about 'fusion.' It's about a mix of current technologies producing energy [and continually improving their efficiency] to fuel how we better our lives. And yes, robotics/automated systems are used grow and feed people on a scale much greater than they would be on their own.

Technology in its literal definition, is the study of knowledge.

YOU aren't suffering a lack of electricity, many unlike you are.
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:18 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I'm not necessarily talking about 'fusion', but the availability of unlimited electricity.

Machines are used to assist in growing things - but machines do not grow anything. Good soil, rain and the sun grows things. (I purposely avoid mentioning hydroponic technologies as the principals are the same)


And the fact that some are suffering due to a lack of electricity is not indicative of a lack of total electricity, but unequal distribution of electricity. Kind of like how there are starving people but there is technically enough food for everyone.




So while it might be legitimate to say that an unlimited supply of electricity would better facilitate the improvement of our technologies, it's still completely wrong to suggest that it would solve all our problems.


I think it's important not to forget that technology is not the primary thing upon which we rely. Our technology comes secondary to the ecosystem we inhabit. We can survive without technology, at present, we cannot survive without our ecosystem.
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:24 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Cool, thanks for critizing my ideal world. But it is quite ironic that you don't see the value of technology as you type out its defiance.

Including helping us live within the ecosystem, which was my entire point.
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I never stated there was no value in technology. Nor was I criticizing your ideal world. In fact it closely resembles my own.

If you read my original post following yours more closely, you'll see I was responding to deadhead and Rev's comments about unlimited energy, not yours.



I can see now you thought I was responding directly to your post. Sorry man, that wasn't the case.
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My perfect world is two worlds.


On one, it is a formerly dead planet located in an appropriate location relative to its star, which humans have inhabited and colonized by their own means.

The other is Earth, devoid of humanity.



Humans no longer evolve synchronously with the rest of life on this planet. Nearly all of our technologies come as a detriment to the rest of life on this planet - our presence here literally does nothing positive for the current species surrounding us - unless you consider our destructive means of existing as a form of global cleansing.

Every other species is involved in an incredibly complex network of interconnected flow of energies and chemicals. Humans have the ability to create things that influence this ecosystem in ways that we don't fully understand, at a rate that far exceeds what naturally occurs in the confines of the animal kingdom.

In terms of the influence we have on our ecosystem, we are far more the equivalent to a natural disaster than to a species. When every other animal makes changes to its environment, the patterns of these changes have been consistent for thousands of years, and when changes to these patterns do occur, in most cases they happen at a rate far, far slower than the changes we humans have been making.

We are too fast for our planet. Unless we consciously decide to slow down and try and truly understand the way our ecosystem works, I don't think it would be in good conscience to stay here. Let's find an empty slate that we can design and tailor to our needs, where we understand the ramifications of what we're doing because we designed it from the bottom up.

Just as a matter of courtesy.




Or we could devote ourselves to actually understand what the fuck is going on. A pursuit, it seems, far too noble for a species as consciously mature as we.
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