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Old 11-30-2011, 05:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Governors Asking U.S. to Ease Rules on Marijuana to Allow for Its Medical Use

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Ms. Gregoire noted that many doctors believe it makes no sense to place marijuana in a more restricted category than opium and morphine. “People die from overdose of opiates,” she said. “Has anybody died from marijuana?”
Why don’t all the governors from all the states that have decrim, and/or, medical mj and join forces?
Oh yeah, because they, including Obama, are bought and paid for by big pharm, of course. Typical American bull-shit, politics against it's people.
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The view taken of marijuana in our world today contains a really good lesson about how content people are not to think, and how much they will resist doing so if you push them. The proof is in how little one needs to think the matter over to see how absurd our present legal stance is on the subject.



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Old 11-30-2011, 05:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah, it's like the BCS.
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There has definitely been an upwelling in the last 5 years especially. If we keep moving at this pace it will not be too long.
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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“What we have out here on the ground is chaos,” Governor Gregoire said in an interview. “And in the midst of all the chaos we have patients who really either feel like they’re criminals or may be engaged in some criminal activity, and really are legitimate patients who want medicinal marijuana.

“If our people really want medicinal marijuana, then we need to do it right, we need to do it with safety, we need to do it with health in mind, and that’s best done in a process that we know works in this country — and that’s through a pharmacist.”
Yeah, clarification would be nice. DEA raids ending would be ethical.
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Old 12-01-2011, 02:27 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The gov who thinks pot should be dispensed thru a pharmacy is an idiot. To imply that the medical MJ industry has a safety and/or health issue problem, other than those brought on by law enforcement, is total bullshit.
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There has definitely been an upwelling in the last 5 years especially. If we keep moving at this pace it will not be too long.
I heard this when Carter was president.
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Old 12-01-2011, 03:03 PM   #8 (permalink)
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^ can u imagine if one of obamas dudes was caught smoking crack or some shit? I could see the same thing happen as with carter. those liberals better be on their best behavior- at least until its legal.
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so i just asked google why pot is illegal

here is what it told me

"From a prohibition-based perspective, marijuana is illegal in the United States primarily for these seven reasons.
1. It is perceived as addictive.
Under the Controlled Substances Act of 1970, marijuana is classified as a Schedule I drug on the basis that is has "a high potential for abuse." What does this mean?

It means that the perception is that people get on marijuana, they get hooked and become "potheads," and it begins to dominate their lives. This unquestionably happens in some cases. But it also happens in the case of alcohol--and alcohol is perfectly legal.

In order to fight this argument for prohibition, legalization advocates need to make the argument that marijuana is not as addictive as government sources claim.
2. It has "no accepted medical use."
Marijuana seems to yield considerable medical benefits for many Americans with ailments ranging from glaucoma to cancer, but these benefits have not been accepted well enough, on a national level. Medical use of marijuana remains a serious national controversy.

In order to fight the argument that marijuana has no medical use, legalization advocates need to highlight the effects it has had on the lives of people who have used the drug for medical reasons.
3. It has been historically linked with narcotics, such as heroin.
Early antidrug laws were written to regulate narcotics--opium and its derivatives, such as heroin and morphine. Marijuana, though not a narcotic, was described as such--along with cocaine.

The association stuck, and there is now a vast gulf in the American consciousness between "normal" recreational drugs, such as alcohol, caffeine, and nicotine, and "abnormal" recreational drugs, such as heroin, cocaine, and methamphetamine. Marijuana is generally associated with the latter category, which is why it can be convincingly portrayed as a "gateway drug."
4. It is associated with unfashionable lifestyles.
Marijuana is often thought of as a drug for hippies and losers. Since it's hard to feel enthusiastic about the prospects of enabling people to become hippies and losers, imposing criminal sanctions for marijuana possession functions as a form of communal "tough love."
5. It was once associated with oppressed ethnic groups.
The intense anti-marijuana movement of the 1930s dovetailed nicely with the intense anti-Chicano movement of the 1930s. Marijuana was associated with Mexican Americans, and a ban on marijuana was seen as a way of discouraging Mexican-American subcultures from developing.

Today, thanks in large part to the very public popularity of marijuana among whites during the 1960s and 1970s, marijuana is no longer seen as what one might call an ethnic drug--but the groundwork for the anti-marijuana movement was laid down at a time when marijuana was seen as an encroachment on the U.S. majority-white culture.
6. Inertia is a powerful force in public policy.
If something has been banned for only a short period of time, then the ban is seen as unstable. If something has been banned for a long time, however, then the ban--no matter how ill-conceived it might be--tends to go unenforced long before it is actually taken off the books.

Take the ban on sodomy, for example. It hasn't really been enforced in any serious way since the 18th century, but most states technically banned same-sex sexual intercourse until the Supreme Court ruled such bans unconstitutional in Lawrence v. Texas (2003).

People tend to be comfortable with the status quo--and the status quo, for nearly a century, has been a literal or de facto federal ban on marijuana.
7. Advocates for marijuana legalization rarely present an appealing case.
To hear some advocates of marijuana legalization say it, the drug cures diseases while it promotes creativity, open-mindedness, moral progression, and a closer relationship with God and/or the cosmos. That sounds incredibly foolish, particularly when the public image of a marijuana user is, again, that of a loser who risks arrest and imprisonment so that he or she can artificially invoke an endorphin release.

A much better argument for marijuana legalization, from my vantage point, would go more like this: "It makes some people happy, and it doesn't seem to be any more dangerous than alcohol. Do we really want to go around putting people in prison and destroying their lives over this?""

does even 1 of those sound like a serious reason a serious person would tell to other serious people to justify it?
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Old 12-01-2011, 03:19 PM   #10 (permalink)
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yea stoneric

I wouldn't hold my breath either folks.

congress can't even balance their books.
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