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Old 12-16-2011, 02:36 PM   #21 (permalink)
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And yet you joined the Army.

Hypocrite much?
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Old 12-16-2011, 02:42 PM   #22 (permalink)
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They weren't much of a problem after the 1980's when we armed Iraq to the teeth. After that, Iraq became a problem. We invade Iraq because they became a problem; and Iran becomes a problem again. Why can't we just stay the fuck out of the ME?


I know, I know... Oil...

But we have enough NG to be energy sufficient for a while. I don't know why we inflict these problems on ourselves. It's like we want to be imperialistic just to spite the odds. =\
Hint: it has to do with a bunch of rich old white dudes wanting to stay rich old white dudes

Theyve also rigged the economy so the only way we can stay afloat is to stay engaged in war

Wouldnt surprise me if the whole ending war in iraq thing is just part of a plan to start allocating resources towards a campaign in iran. should be interesting to see if they try to pull the wool over our eyes again and how people will react.
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Iran has been within 5 years of having a nuke since the 80's. Although I think they will now try to develop one because we have left them no choice.
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Old 12-16-2011, 03:18 PM   #24 (permalink)
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i wonder when the liberal compassion and republican hawkishness will combine again... maybe to take out that shithead ahmadinejad.
And then everthing will be fine, right?
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Old 12-16-2011, 03:32 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Iran war: because eventually we got to get it right...Don't we?
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Old 12-16-2011, 11:25 PM   #26 (permalink)
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And yet you joined the Army.

Hypocrite much?

Last time I checked, we weren't some independent entity. We take our orders from politicians who were elected by the people.

You only want 'just' wars? Then quit electing shitty politicians.

Unless you're arguing that we shouldn't have a military at all... In that case
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Old 12-17-2011, 10:32 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Sage, can the melodrama. You are being naive if you believe this announcement is anything but bullshit to appease the American populace.
Piss off dude.

One less war is one less war.....

I'm not pretending like it's the last war.

Just being thankful for the end-ish of this one and sharing how I feel about it.
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Hint: it has to do with a bunch of rich old white dudes wanting to stay rich old white dudes

Theyve also rigged the economy so the only way we can stay afloat is to stay engaged in war

Wouldnt surprise me if the whole ending war in iraq thing is just part of a plan to start allocating resources towards a campaign in iran. should be interesting to see if they try to pull the wool over our eyes again and how people will react.
Think about what you're saying and tell me why it's not a contradiction.
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Old 12-17-2011, 01:53 PM   #29 (permalink)
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And yet you joined the Army.

Hypocrite much?
IDK what rank JP has/had but blaming anything to do with war (apart from atrocity and shit) on anyone ranked less than general is pretty dumb.

Isn't like half of the US army from Detroit?

Oh yeah those warmongering Detroit sob's .

Politicians are responsible for starting wars, not soldiers.
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Old 12-17-2011, 02:20 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Fuck the army.

did the 'politicians' tell them to torture Iraqis, or to massacre civilians at Mei Lai and Haditha?

JP and his ilk are fucking scumbags, end of story.
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did the 'politicians' tell them to torture Iraqis, or to massacre civilians at Mei Lai and Haditha?
CIA, not soldiers.

and yes, politicians set the rules for engagement.

It all goes back to the Commander in Chief.
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Old 12-17-2011, 03:58 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Last time I checked, we weren't some independent entity. We take our orders from politicians who were elected by the people.

You only want 'just' wars? Then quit electing shitty politicians.

Unless you're arguing that we shouldn't have a military at all... In that case
But aren't you still a hypocrite if you take part in something you think is bullshit regardless who is responsible for starting said bullshit?
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Old 12-17-2011, 11:20 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Fuck the army.

did the 'politicians' tell them to torture Iraqis, or to massacre civilians at Mei Lai and Haditha?

JP and his ilk are fucking scumbags, end of story.

No. Those people broke so many laws... And it wasn't due to lack of training that we couldn't do shit like that.

They're being held accountable for their actions as well.
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But aren't you still a hypocrite if you take part in something you think is bullshit regardless who is responsible for starting said bullshit?
Do you think we'd have an effective military if we were allowed to just pick and choose which wars we have to fight in? c'mon man!
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Old 12-18-2011, 03:16 AM   #35 (permalink)
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imo if you join the current military then human life has little meaning to you... which is sad as fuck.
and you are kinda a dumb douchebag to scared to face life cause he cant figure out a plan for his life by the time he is 18.

it's not like it is your fault or anything, totally all societies fault and the greed that runs it.


doesnt mean you still arent a lil bitch tho
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Do you think we'd have an effective military if we were allowed to just pick and choose which wars we have to fight in? c'mon man!
But you knew what was going on before you went in.
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But you knew what was going on before you went in.
The recruiter made it sound like such a good idea though!
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