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Old 01-21-2012, 01:41 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Aka, the US wil not dissolve into Nazi Germany despite what most Americans who've never left US borders would think.
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Old 01-21-2012, 01:51 PM   #62 (permalink)
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stasi, not nazi
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Old 01-21-2012, 02:34 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Aka, the US wil not dissolve into Nazi Germany despite what most Americans who've never left US borders would think.
What is it with you and equating traveling with intelligence?

You do realize people can be smart and hold opinions without having to circumnavigate the globe right?

We don't all have the means to visit every country as you had, you really must realize how elitist you sound when you continue to parrot this line that no one can be as smart as you until they've stepped foot on every continent, don't you?
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Old 01-21-2012, 02:38 PM   #64 (permalink)
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No i don't. I've heard those from whom i proclaim pretentiousness beyond the Yahookan environment, but you can believe otherwise.

I won't be afraid to express my personal opinion, however.
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Old 01-21-2012, 02:41 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Fascism could come to America but it would be a bit harder and the conditions would have to be just right ie hyperinflation, fractured political situation, ethnic tensions, bitterness from a lost war etc.

Hard to imagine, yes. Unlikely, yes. Impossible, no.
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Old 01-21-2012, 02:43 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Dude komp i don't know if it's just me i'm usually pretty good at english but your sentences make no sense

what the hell is with that syntax bro


Your short answers seem to indicate that you wish to incite debate, yet you offer no substanstial rebuttal of your own! It is ludacris, outrageous and indecent!

What is with that?
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Old 01-21-2012, 02:46 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Maybe cuz i speak multiple languages that most gringos don't know, but seriously FUCK YOU if we aren't creeping into our imagration systems.
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Old 01-21-2012, 02:48 PM   #68 (permalink)
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calm down brosef. no need to pull out the all caps.

But seriously you're not making sense anymore.
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Old 01-21-2012, 02:48 PM   #69 (permalink)
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komp,i'm going top be honest, and it's not because we agree or disagree, but many times your posts come off as non sequiturs
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Ditto.
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I have to agree with that. Also he seems to like riling people up.

Again no shit stirring intended, calling it as I sees it.
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Old 01-21-2012, 02:52 PM   #72 (permalink)
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I'm sorry my actual civil rights are a backbunrner to you, as i know they are to Ron Paul...
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I only recently actually started looking into the connections of politics, as I previously never really bothered with them. It was the Egyptian uprising that started things. Watching the events unfold live, it seemed surreal and resonated emotionally with me. As a result I wanted to learn why all of this was happening and so, my interest in politics began.

I used to justify my disinterest with politics with cynicism. Although I still don't think such cynicism is misplaced, it tends to make me gravitate towards examples of what I believe to be bad or mismanaged political policies, rather than a desire for intricate knowledge of the political process. Of course, in coming to any kind of negative conclusion about a specific policy, at least some knowledge of the process is necessary.

I suppose my interest in US politics stems from knowledge (and the global impact) of the financial collapse and it nearing an election year. I don't think it's crazy to believe that US policy influences the world more than any other country, and the more I learn the more concerned I am.

While I'll admit my involvment in Canadian politics is minimal, I think it's safe to assume our policies are far less reaching. Of course, these policies are also still influenced by the US. (Harper is a robot, I will say that much.)

Besides, I've only been interested in this stuff for a year. I'm sure the honeymoon period will fade soon.
thanks for explaining that. seriously.
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OMG ANYONE NAMED RUPOLPH should be impeached.
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Old 01-21-2012, 04:08 PM   #75 (permalink)
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vote republican if you want to...
  1. Eliminate Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid
  2. Block all Democratic-sponsored legislation that might help the country recover from this Republican-created economic crisis
  3. Block as many Obama appointments to federal judge and agency positions as possible
  4. Reduce taxes on the rich and corporations
  5. Shrink federal programs that help the poor
  6. Cut off federal medical assistance for people without insurance
  7. Eliminate programs that provide international aid and assistance
  8. Eliminate all environmental, labor, financial and health regulations, fines and penalties
  9. Eliminate programs that fund alternative energy or conservation projects
  10. Open up the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) for oil exploration and drilling
  11. Allow unlimited oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico and hydrofracking in the US
  12. Abolish the EPA, OSHA, SEC, and BATF
  13. Abolish the Department of Education
  14. Abolish to Department of Commerce
  15. Abolish the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) and block the appointment of a Commissioner
  16. Make all abortions illegal
  17. Eliminate government support for Planned Parenthood and other women's rights groups
  18. Ban the birth control pill (currently “use” is defined as abortion in some states)
  19. Weaken child labor laws, allowing children as young as 9 to work longer hours
  20. Weaken rape and sexual harassment laws
  21. Destroy public labor unions
  22. Eliminate all organized labor
  23. Allow increased anonymous corporate and individual campaign donations while tightening rules against organized labor making campaign contributions
  24. Mandate that all states allow people to carry concealed guns
  25. Force minorities to carry identification papers and to produce them to the police
  26. Shape the electoral system to ensure election of republicans (bills currently enacted in 14 states)
  27. Destroy PBS and National Public Radio
  28. Eliminate all public funding for the arts
  29. Reduce spending on infrastructure
  30. Ban all state same-sex marriage laws
  31. Reinstate the "Don't Ask / Don't Tell" law
  32. America ruled by a white Christian fundamentalist theocracy
  33. Require that Presidential contenders be “Christian”
  34. Ban all Muslims from entering the US or becoming citizens
  35. Ban all mosques and any religions other than Christian churches
  36. Repeal 2009 Dodd-Frank Banking Regulations
  37. Repeal 2002 Sarbanes-Oxley Rules governing corporate accountability
  38. Withdraw from the UN and force the organization out of the USA
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thanks for explaining that. seriously.
My pleasure. I'm actually glad you asked, because answering helped me put some things in perspective.
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Old 01-21-2012, 05:33 PM   #78 (permalink)
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Ok, so the running arguments against Obama are:

He's violated laws in declaring war (Like I have stated previously, links and facts would be appreciated, makes you look more intelligent, just saying something over and over doesn't really prove anything - i could tell you the sky is brown until I die and it doesn't make it true)

He signed the NDAA of 2012 (that thread is dying, maybe because its hard to find opposing facts to my posts?)

He's a socialist.

Did I miss anything? I want to get all my ducks in a row before I start my research and digging again.
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Old 01-21-2012, 05:37 PM   #79 (permalink)
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Is killing one terrorist with a predator drone worth it if we kill his wives and children?

To Obama the answer is yes, to me that is morally reprehensible. Murder by proxy is cowardly and there is zero accountability.
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Old 01-21-2012, 06:20 PM   #80 (permalink)
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OMG Home Wrecker has become kami.

by the way, some peoples photoshop skills are non existant.
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