Obama

Being · 01-20-2012, 07:35 PM

Hate him or love him, post here.

Edit: Everyone, lets be civil here, and let's try to stick with facts (pro Obama and anti- Obama). Thanks.

Terry · 01-20-2012, 08:20 PM

Liar, coward, flip-flopper, weak, child killer, warmonger, whore to Wall Street, whore to Congress, whore to special interest.

Those are the words that come to mind off the top of my head, and I fucking voted for the guy (God help me).

The Rev · 01-20-2012, 09:58 PM

I think of Obama as the guy who finally convinced me that listening to politicians, and believing in anything they said, is a mistake.

The Rev

clive · 01-21-2012, 01:26 AM

better than bush at least, you guys are never happy with what you get. jeez

Kompressor · 01-21-2012, 02:01 AM

^ Fuckin A.

He's not perfect so he's shit.

The Rev · 01-21-2012, 02:16 AM

Yeah, there are so many idiots to choose from in politics, but I just can't find one that makes me happy.

The Rev

clive · 01-21-2012, 02:32 AM

people enjoy a good moan about things

stoneric · 01-21-2012, 07:24 AM

The best president since george w bush.

Captain Cannabis · 01-21-2012, 07:28 AM

the president doesn't actually have the power to change things

i would say he hasn't done anything unexpected

The Don · 01-21-2012, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kompressor

^ Fuckin A.

He's not perfect so he's shit.

shut up sheep

Roach · 01-21-2012, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Obama

who ?

Cerpin Taxt · 01-21-2012, 08:45 AM

Campaigned on hope and change, provided neither. Stifled both.

As a person, I genuinely like the guy. Those candid moments where he shows his charisma and good-hearted nature is honestly refreshing to see.

But the Presidency is crushing his soul.

Captain Cannabis · 01-21-2012, 09:40 AM

are you american? or do you have family/friends there?

i am always confused when you are totally up in american politics and such. i don't mean it in a bad way (or any kind of way really), just always trying to make the connection

Kompressor · 01-21-2012, 09:41 AM

Ditto.

John F. Kerry · 01-21-2012, 09:41 AM

I cant wait till we actually have a good president so you people can see that the president really does matter. u just need to have a variety of talents and be able to deliver your messages/build alliances/not burn bridges with the other side, etc etc etc... its HARD, which is why not too many have been good at it- but when the person is equal to the office, the whole thing runs like clockwork. reagans 2nd term, kennedy, teddy roosevelt, lincoln.... a few others... maybe 10% of them have been truly up to the task.

Being · 01-21-2012, 09:44 AM

Hey guys! love the lack of any factual information

lame.

Quote:

The Obameter Scorecard
Promise Kept 162
Compromise 50
Promise Broken 56
Stalled 64
In the Works 174
Not yet rated 2

ready, set, go!

**SageTree** · 01-21-2012, 09:51 AM

President good or bad....

I think one thing that will change the gov't over all is TERM LIMITS for Senators and Congressmen.

Then there won't be this deadlocked, I've been in this part for umpteen years crap, partisan crap.

Another thing is... make them live like the elected servants they are and not like the elected lords they act like.

How are people that have healthcare for the rest of their lives allowed to decide if their constituents do or don't?

Sir-Ex · 01-21-2012, 09:51 AM

Hey being what about that 'imprison American citizens indefinitely without trial' thing I've been hearing about?

What's your take on that one?

Being · 01-21-2012, 09:56 AM

check out the NDAA thread, I'm trying to keep people to debating correctly by keeping issues separate. in short, I don't support the NDAA of 2012, but I also think people are being told its worse than it actually is. please check that thread out though.

Sir-Ex · 01-21-2012, 09:59 AM

At my leisure good sir! At my leisure.

(I say this out loud in my sean connery voice)

01-20-2012, 08:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
Terry Hello Darkness Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Moscow, Idaho Posts: 8,539 Thanks: 2,130 Thanked 2,392 Times in 1,189 Posts	Liar, coward, flip-flopper, weak, child killer, warmonger, whore to Wall Street, whore to Congress, whore to special interest. Those are the words that come to mind off the top of my head, and I fucking voted for the guy (God help me). __________________ I don't know but I've been told, If you never die you'll never grow old

01-20-2012, 09:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,867 Thanks: 5,019 Thanked 5,421 Times in 2,865 Posts	I think of Obama as the guy who finally convinced me that listening to politicians, and believing in anything they said, is a mistake. The Rev __________________ Budforce - My Friend August 29, 1973- May 25, 2012

01-21-2012, 02:01 AM	#5 (permalink)
Kompressor Voice of Reason Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Illinois Posts: 8,361 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3,069 Times in 1,634 Posts	^ Fuckin A. He's not perfect so he's shit. __________________ Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought. -H. Bergson

01-21-2012, 02:16 AM	#6 (permalink)
The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,867 Thanks: 5,019 Thanked 5,421 Times in 2,865 Posts	Yeah, there are so many idiots to choose from in politics, but I just can't find one that makes me happy. The Rev __________________ Budforce - My Friend August 29, 1973- May 25, 2012

01-21-2012, 07:28 AM	#9 (permalink)
Captain Cannabis safety word: more Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: m.i.a. Posts: 13,922 Thanks: 2,705 Thanked 3,174 Times in 1,812 Posts	the president doesn't actually have the power to change things i would say he hasn't done anything unexpected __________________ fuck the monkeys

01-21-2012, 07:24 AM	#8 (permalink)
stoneric bougeman Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,646 Thanks: 704 Thanked 1,512 Times in 1,067 Posts	The best president since george w bush.

01-21-2012, 08:45 AM	#12 (permalink)
Cerpin Taxt Yahookan Zealot Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 7,213 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 843 Thanked 1,919 Times in 1,011 Posts	Campaigned on hope and change, provided neither. Stifled both. As a person, I genuinely like the guy. Those candid moments where he shows his charisma and good-hearted nature is honestly refreshing to see. But the Presidency is crushing his soul. __________________ Step Back. Evaluate. Recognize. "All memory is really a form of regurgitation of undigested experience." -Alan Watts

01-21-2012, 09:40 AM	#13 (permalink)
Captain Cannabis safety word: more Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: m.i.a. Posts: 13,922 Thanks: 2,705 Thanked 3,174 Times in 1,812 Posts	are you american? or do you have family/friends there? i am always confused when you are totally up in american politics and such. i don't mean it in a bad way (or any kind of way really), just always trying to make the connection __________________ fuck the monkeys

01-21-2012, 09:41 AM	#14 (permalink)
Kompressor Voice of Reason Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Illinois Posts: 8,361 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3,069 Times in 1,634 Posts	Ditto. __________________ Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought. -H. Bergson

01-21-2012, 09:51 AM	#17 (permalink)
SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,769 Times in 4,664 Posts	President good or bad.... I think one thing that will change the gov't over all is TERM LIMITS for Senators and Congressmen. Then there won't be this deadlocked, I've been in this part for umpteen years crap, partisan crap. Another thing is... make them live like the elected servants they are and not like the elected lords they act like. How are people that have healthcare for the rest of their lives allowed to decide if their constituents do or don't? __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

01-21-2012, 09:51 AM	#18 (permalink)
Sir-Ex Learner Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 11,416 Thanks: 1,726 Thanked 3,821 Times in 2,258 Posts	Hey being what about that 'imprison American citizens indefinitely without trial' thing I've been hearing about? What's your take on that one? __________________ Smile Ditch the cigs!!!!!!

01-21-2012, 09:59 AM	#20 (permalink)
Sir-Ex Learner Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 11,416 Thanks: 1,726 Thanked 3,821 Times in 2,258 Posts	At my leisure good sir! At my leisure. (I say this out loud in my sean connery voice) __________________ Smile Ditch the cigs!!!!!!

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