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Old 01-20-2012, 08:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Obama

Hate him or love him, post here.


Edit: Everyone, lets be civil here, and let's try to stick with facts (pro Obama and anti- Obama). Thanks.
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but I do show—thanks to a lot of in-depth interviews with GOP sources—how they plotted to obstruct Obama before he even took office. I show how the stimulus was chock full of stuff they claimed to support until Jan. 20, 2009—not just things like health IT and the smart grid and energy efficiency and scientific research, but the very idea of Keynesian stimulus. Every presidential candidate in 2008 proposed a stimulus package, and Mitt Romney’s was the largest.
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Liar, coward, flip-flopper, weak, child killer, warmonger, whore to Wall Street, whore to Congress, whore to special interest.

Those are the words that come to mind off the top of my head, and I fucking voted for the guy (God help me).
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I think of Obama as the guy who finally convinced me that listening to politicians, and believing in anything they said, is a mistake.



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better than bush at least, you guys are never happy with what you get. jeez
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^ Fuckin A.

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Yeah, there are so many idiots to choose from in politics, but I just can't find one that makes me happy.



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Old 01-21-2012, 08:24 AM   #8 (permalink)
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The best president since george w bush.
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Old 01-21-2012, 08:28 AM   #9 (permalink)
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the president doesn't actually have the power to change things


i would say he hasn't done anything unexpected
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^ Fuckin A.

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Campaigned on hope and change, provided neither. Stifled both.

As a person, I genuinely like the guy. Those candid moments where he shows his charisma and good-hearted nature is honestly refreshing to see.

But the Presidency is crushing his soul.
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are you american? or do you have family/friends there?

i am always confused when you are totally up in american politics and such. i don't mean it in a bad way (or any kind of way really), just always trying to make the connection
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Old 01-21-2012, 10:41 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I cant wait till we actually have a good president so you people can see that the president really does matter. u just need to have a variety of talents and be able to deliver your messages/build alliances/not burn bridges with the other side, etc etc etc... its HARD, which is why not too many have been good at it- but when the person is equal to the office, the whole thing runs like clockwork. reagans 2nd term, kennedy, teddy roosevelt, lincoln.... a few others... maybe 10% of them have been truly up to the task.
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Old 01-21-2012, 10:44 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Hey guys! love the lack of any factual information


lame.

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President good or bad....


I think one thing that will change the gov't over all is TERM LIMITS for Senators and Congressmen.

Then there won't be this deadlocked, I've been in this part for umpteen years crap, partisan crap.

Another thing is... make them live like the elected servants they are and not like the elected lords they act like.

How are people that have healthcare for the rest of their lives allowed to decide if their constituents do or don't?
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Hey being what about that 'imprison American citizens indefinitely without trial' thing I've been hearing about?

What's your take on that one?
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check out the NDAA thread, I'm trying to keep people to debating correctly by keeping issues separate. in short, I don't support the NDAA of 2012, but I also think people are being told its worse than it actually is. please check that thread out though.
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