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Old 01-31-2012, 10:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Things gotta change! (and its only up to us to change them)

The world has had enough of elitist politicians. The reason nothing gets done, is partly because most of these corrupted elitist douches dont give a damn about the 99%.

Unemployment is way high, healthcare is not affordable for the masses, education is only for those who can afford it and high paying positions go to those with connections and not to those who can get the job done.

Thats bull.

If we dont change the way things are, with our vote, then dont expect a future for the next generations. Expect slavery.

Governments are the puppets of the elite. We gotta move gvmnts out of our way, so descent people can start making a difference.

Mitt Romney -who wants to be your next president- made $42 million dollars and yet he only paid 14% tax on it because most of his money is in offshore companies. And he said : "i aint paying a dollar more!"

So why does the average american, canadian european or australian citizen have to pay 35-45% tax, when their politicians dont even pay the minimum?

Fuck that.

Its time the people take the government in their hands. It wont happen overnight. It will take a few decades. but if we dont start now, then be prepared for many decades of slavery. Minimum wages, more work, less jobs, less benefits, less healthcare and non-existent pensions.

the middle class is shrinking world wide. Lets do something about it!
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How do you vote governments out of the way?
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Old 01-31-2012, 10:56 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Didn't Canada do that?
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What do you mean?
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't you guys have like 5 elections in 4 years?
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Yeah probably something like that. But what is your point?
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What's more in your hands than that?
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I do not think that people don't want to do anything. I think its we do not know what to do. No one has come out with a real solid plan.
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Someone has, but it involves 2 terms and a moon base.
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Careful Peace seeker, your starting to sound like that old crank, roach

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Tip of the iceberg. He's worth between 500 and 600 million, even he's not sure how much he's holding in foreign accounts.
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I'm asking peace seeker how it is possible to 'vote' for your government to get out of the way.
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Old 01-31-2012, 11:26 AM   #13 (permalink)
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You can't just sit on this idea of massive change, really think about it, and expect it to somehow manifest itself into the world. There is coming a time when action will be the only option, and I'm doubtful that option includes ballot boxes.
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Obama still rocks, haters gonna hate.
and apologists will keep kidding themselves.
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I'm asking peace seeker how it is possible to 'vote' for your government to get out of the way.
Start by voting straight democrat.
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who pays 35-45% in taxes? thats ridiculous, i cant take this thread seriously. i paid like 20% in taxes
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I pay at least 33% when working in Pittsburgh, PA, and I'm not even a property owner.

but to understand who started the corporate takeover of America you must understand who's policies (and are still being used) was the root cause of it.

Alan Greenspan.

In the summer of 1968, Greenspan agreed to serve Richard Nixon as his coordinator on domestic policy in the nomination campaign.[17] Greenspan has also served as a corporate director for Aluminum Company of America (Alcoa); Automatic Data Processing; Capital Cities/ABC, Inc.; General Foods; J.P. Morgan & Co.; Morgan Guaranty Trust Company; Mobil Corporation; and the Pittston Company.[18][19] He was a director of the Council on Foreign Relations foreign policy organization between 1982 and 1988.[20] He also served as a member of the influential Washington-based financial advisory body, the Group of Thirty in 1984.

On June 2, 1987, President Ronald Reagan nominated Greenspan as a successor to Paul Volcker as chairman of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, and the Senate confirmed him on August 11, 1987. Investor, author and commentator Jim Rogers has said that Greenspan lobbied to get this chairmanship.[22]

Two months after his confirmation Greenspan said immediately following the 1987 stock market crash that the Fed "affirmed today its readiness to serve as a source of liquidity to support the economic and financial system"[23][24][25] George H. W. Bush blamed Fed policy for not winning a second term. Democratic president Bill Clinton reappointed Greenspan, and consulted him on economic matters. Greenspan lent support to Clinton's 1993 deficit reduction program.[26] Greenspan, while still fundamentally monetarist in orientation, had eclectic views on the economy, and his monetary policy decisions largely followed standard Taylor rule prescriptions (See Taylor 1993 and 1999).

During the Asian financial crisis of 1997–1998, the Federal Reserve flooded the world with dollars, and organized a bailout of Long-Term Capital Management. Some have argued that 1997–1998 represented a monetary policy bind—as the early 1970s had represented a fiscal policy bind—and that while asset inflation had crept into the United States, demanding that the Fed tighten, the Federal Reserve needed to ease liquidity in response to the capital flight from Asia. Greenspan himself noted this when he stated that the American stock market showed signs of irrationally high valuations. While presenting the Federal Reserve's Monetary Policy Report in July, 2002, he said that "It is not that humans have become any more greedy than in generations past. It is that the avenues to express greed had grown so enormously." and suggested that financial markets need to be regulated.[27]

In 2000, Greenspan raised interest rates several times; these actions were believed by many to have caused the bursting of the dot-com bubble. However, according to Nobel laureate Paul Krugman "he didn't raise interest rates to curb the market's enthusiasm; he didn't even seek to impose margin requirements on stock market investors. Instead, he waited until the bubble burst, as it did in 2000, then tried to clean up the mess afterward."[28] In autumn 2001, as a decisive reaction to the September 11 attacks and various corporate scandals which undermined the economy, the Greenspan-led Federal Reserve initiated a series of interest cuts that brought down the Federal Funds rate to 1% in 2004. His critics, notably Steve Forbes, attributed the rapid rise in commodity prices and gold to Greenspan's loose monetary policy, which Forbes believed had caused excessive asset inflation and a weak dollar. By late 2004, the price of gold was higher than its 12 year moving average.

On May 18, 2004, Greenspan was nominated by President George W. Bush to serve for an unprecedented fifth term as chairman of the Federal Reserve. He was previously appointed to the post by Presidents Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and Clinton.

In a May 2005 speech, Greenspan stated: "Two years ago at this conference I argued that the growing array of derivatives and the related application of more-sophisticated methods for measuring and managing risks had been key factors underlying the remarkable resilience of the banking system, which had recently shrugged off severe shocks to the economy and the financial system. At the same time, I indicated some concerns about the risks associated with derivatives, including the risks posed by concentration in certain derivatives markets, notably the over-the-counter (OTC) markets for U.S. dollar interest rate options."[29]

Greenspan opposed tariffs against People's Republic of China for its refusal to let the yuan rise.[30] According to Bloomberg LP, "U.S. workers displaced by trade with China should be compensated, he said, through unemployment insurance programs and retraining."[31]

Greenspan's term as a member of the Board ended on January 31, 2006, and Ben Bernanke was confirmed as his successor.

As chairman of the board, Greenspan did not give any broadcast interviews from 1987 through 2005.[32]
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You can see the increases in the Money supply that preceded the dot com bubble and the housing bubble. Look at the increase we're experiencing now. The money supply has grown by over 40% since 2008, and that cash has to go somewhere...



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and apologists will keep kidding themselves.
and kids will keep thinking they know shit about the world.
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