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Old 02-22-2012, 12:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Israel is never wrong, and if you say otherwise - you're an anti-Semite. WHY?

Pat's never been a particular favorite of mine, except that he is usually against getting into never ending wars. This interview is interesting in terms of taking a more honest look at just how stupid our being in the Middle East is and how nobody but Israel benefits from it.

Pat Buchanan: 300 nukes in Israel yet Iran a threat? - Max Keiser

The past couple of weeks have seen our centrally controlled and manipulated media play out their own version of Hitler's Night of the Long Knives regarding critics of Zionism. MSNBC shit canned Buchanon, Fox cancelled their highest rated show in Judge Napolitano's Freedom Watch, and John Stossel sat and lobbed softballs to Alan Dirtyshitz and his incessant Anti-Semite whinery. The cancellations were surprising enough, but the complete lack of any attention by anyone in the media about it is pretty staggering even for these pricks. The Juden have the shit scared out of every one of 'em, as well they should be, since Jews probably control the majority of the networks anyway.

To be fair, Murdock's crusty empire is under a lot of pressure lately for their shitty way of doing business and it has been suggested that another reason for the Judge being terminated was that Murdock was being blackmailed. Whatever... the result remains the same.

Prison Planet.com First Freedom Watch Cancelled, Now Colbert Suspended?





A Complaint from Gilad Atzmon - Stossel's Take Blog - Fox Business

Part of my family on my Grandmother's side calls themselves Jewish, so technically I guess I would be entitled if I was so inclined and chose to pay and play... but I won't. What disturbs me however is that there is no discourse about ANYTHING shady, sketchy or shitty that Israel pulls... anywhere. Napolitano merely suggested that there could be some hypocrisy with the way that we support Israel while denigrating all of her neighbors for doing what is often much less egregious shit. Bang, the Jews dropped him in his tracks and forced Dirtyshitz on almost immediately to screech about some yutz in Chicago who had his students read a book that challenged Israels claimed "rights" over Palestine. That's what first grabbed my attention, 'cuz his being there was totally out of character with the show's traditional format. This asshole Dershowitz has an endowed chair at Harvard Law (Obama's alma mater), and a long history of unprofessional assassinations of any academic who even dares to suggest that our relationship with Israel is worth a look see. He has personally seen to it that more than one Associate Professor was denied tenure and labeled an anti-Semite. It's not just scary, it's fucking outrageous.

I have nothing against people who call themselves Jews, I lived with and almost married a girl who was of that faith, and as mentioned, I could claim it as my own as well. I knew people who had survived the death camps and in no way refute the horror or reality of the Holocaust. What I can't do is ignore the facts surrounding Israel's conduct, and the ridiculous reflexive gang whining and shrill little girl bullshit that arises every time someone tries to have an honest conversation about them. Why?



This one touches on the current push to get us all fired up to fight another war for Israel, that does nothing but cost us lives, wealth, and even more standing in the eyes of other nations.

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Long story short? It is far easier to get people on your side of an issue, no matter how despicable, by appealing to symbols, semantics,emotion and GENERALIZATION rather than a case by case examination of an issue. Call it the 'Symbolic Uses of Politics'.
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ah... bit harsh maybe?
but taking it back to the '67 borders and internationally recognizing palestine as a sovereign nation might be a start, several countries already have
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Listen to Dershowitz, Blitzer, or Santorum speak in defense of Zionism and tell me that they aren't working from the play book:


"All great movements are popular movements. They are the volcanic eruptions of human passions and emotions, stirred into activity by the ruthless Goddess of Distress or by the torch of the spoken word cast into the midst of the people."

"All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach."

"Any alliance whose purpose is not the intention to wage war is senseless and useless."

"By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise."

"Demoralize the enemy from within by surprise, terror, sabotage, assassination. This is the war of the future."

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ah... bit harsh maybe?
but taking it back to the '67 borders and internationally recognizing palestine as a sovereign nation might be a start, several countries already have
I would much prefer the pre 1948 borders.
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ah... bit harsh maybe?
but taking it back to the '67 borders and internationally recognizing palestine as a sovereign nation might be a start, several countries already have
Why '67? I'm still not clear about why we must have a "Jewish" homeland in the first place? WTF is the rationale for that bullshit ? The Balfour Declaration was basically a letter from England's foreign secretary to one of the Rotchschild's, offered essentially as a bribe to get American Zionists like Justice Brandeis to con the witless Wilson into joining WWI. This is what they pull out of their ass to support their arguments and claims to the U.N.? Who the fuck was Britain to be issuing such bullshit in the first place. They were playing with spoils of a bullshit war that they had principally perpetrated.

Where's my "Weedish" homeland? Makes just as much sense when you stop to consider the persecution justification. Who says there's an international imperative for the Zionists to get shit? By what right? The whole thing is absurd.
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Dude, those fuckers don't knock. He'll be lucky if he hears the buzz of the drone's engine as it maneuvers into place outside of his bedroom window.
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I would much prefer the pre 1948 borders.
Why not pre-1916 Sykes-Picot

BBC News | KEY DOCUMENTS | The Sykes-Picot agreement

Prior to WWI, the vast majority of "Jews" living in the Ottoman Empire were Khazars, not native born Palestinians. There weren't enough native Jews in all of Palestine, prior to the creation of the Zionist movement, to make a decent cricket match crowd. Going all of the way back to the 16th century the Jews were never more than a very tiny minority amongst the indigenous Arabs, so who gives a fuck if they have a book of fables and myths that says they get whateverthefuck... it's retarded.

I have a book, I call it My Bible... and in it, MY god says I get Hawaii, so tell everybody to pack the fuck up and get the hell out... or else.
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Why '67? I'm still not clear about why we must have a "Jewish" homeland in the first place? WTF is the rationale for that bullshit ? The Balfour Declaration was basically a letter from England's foreign secretary to one of the Rotchschild's, offered essentially as a bribe to get American Zionists like Justice Brandeis to con the witless Wilson into joining WWI. This is what they pull out of their ass to support their arguments and claims to the U.N.? Who the fuck was Britain to be issuing such bullshit in the first place. They were playing with spoils of a bullshit war that they had principally perpetrated.

Where's my "Weedish" homeland? Makes just as much sense when you stop to consider the persecution justification. Who says there's an international imperative for the Zionists to get shit? By what right? The whole thing is absurd.
i agree with that, and pre '48 borders to be honest as well. however, there is (a very tiny) amount of land bought by jews in palestine in the early 20th century legally, if im not mistaken. in either case, theres no rationale to annexe the rest of the country and claim is as a state.

but were getting away from the point here. zionists are 21st century nazis, which isn't all that ironic considering if there was no "holocaust" the state of israel probably would not exist, once again disregarding the evidence that most high ranking officers of the third reich were jewish. besides, anyone who died at the hands of the axis powers was a political enemy, not a racial one
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Jews control the world. It isn't even a conspiracy. It is just there in the open.
The Jewish lobby controls U.S politics. The Zionist movement controls world jewry and Israel.
The Jews are the most powerful nation on the planet. We are every where controlling everything.

We are so powerful that the entire world (well apart from the Arabic part) are afraid to say anything bad about anything the Jews do. It is simply anti-semitic.

If you have any problem with anything that any Jew does (no matter how bad) then YOU are an anti semite.
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We need another Heinrich Himmler. Thin out their ranks a bit.

Also, are jews allowed to smoke seeing as how there is hydrogen cyanide in tobacco smoke?
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Jews control the world. It isn't even a conspiracy. It is just there in the open.
The Jewish lobby controls U.S politics. The Zionist movement controls world jewry and Israel.
The Jews are the most powerful nation on the planet. We are every where controlling everything.

We are so powerful that the entire world (well apart from the Arabic part) are afraid to say anything bad about anything the Jews do. It is simply anti-semitic.

If you have any problem with anything that any Jew does (no matter how bad) then YOU are an anti semite.
how can you support the killing of innocent people? you might as well be an SS officer
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i agree with that, and pre '48 borders to be honest as well. however, there is (a very tiny) amount of land bought by jews in palestine in the early 20th century legally, if im not mistaken. in either case, theres no rationale to annexe the rest of the country and claim is as a state.

but were getting away from the point here. zionists are 21st century nazis, which isn't all that ironic considering if there was no "holocaust" the state of israel probably would not exist, once again disregarding the evidence that most high ranking officers of the third reich were jewish. besides, anyone who died at the hands of the axis powers was a political enemy, not a racial one
Yeah... those early land purchases were by the Father of Modern Isreal, a man by the name of Rothschild. Seems aside from financing the Boer Wars, DeBeers and the establishment of a slave economy in South Africa to dig diamonds and minerals, they also had some inkling as to the whole Suez project. Like any good speculator, the first purchases made from the Ottomans were along that route, and that of course is where Jews first started to settle. All very legal. Just some old time inside trading is all.

There were some but not exactly hoards of Jews in the Nazi ranks. Although some of them held some rather questionable jobs... like one crew of Jews that ran one of the death camps. Talk about eating your own.
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how can you support the killing of innocent people? you might as well be an SS officer
If they would have been more efficient, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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You have to remember also American supprt for Israel also came from Cold War hysteria and the belief that we needed a client state in the pre-radicalized, quasi-marxist Middle East of the time. The CIA gradually saw to the end of those Marxist regimes, but having replaced them (oops!) with tyrants who were then thrown over by religious nuts, placed us in a strategic conundrum: whereas Israel first was a client against Marxism, it was now needed as a buffer for the less controllable dictators, as well as a guardian of transnational defense contractor interests.

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Yeah... those early land purchases were by the Father of Modern Isreal, a man by the name of Rothschild. Seems aside from financing the Boer Wars, DeBeers and the establishment of a slave economy in South Africa to dig diamonds and minerals, they also had some inkling as to the whole Suez project. Like any good speculator, the first purchases made from the Ottomans were along that route, and that of course is where Jews first started to settle. All very legal. Just some old time inside trading is all.

There were some but not exactly hoards of Jews in the Nazi ranks. Although some of them held some rather questionable jobs... like one crew of Jews that ran one of the death camps. Talk about eating your own.
judenrat, jewish ghetto police. not like they had much of a choice though. you go through a whole fucked up ghetto and ask (under penalty of death) each person to fill the role, someone is going to.


with the whole israel thing though we have to deal with where we're at now, not just on how we got their. 1967 sounds good to me but what do i know. america needs to stop unilaterally supporting israel. giving them free reign is the same as actively trying to persecute palestinians (who despite what some talking heads say are very real people).

i'll hate on israel but not on israelis. i think amoral extremists have hijacked their democracy, and as an american i can empathize with that.

both people are there, we can't fuck either of them over, we need to move on from there.

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