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Old 03-23-2012, 03:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This Trayvon Martin stuff...

So ill try to make this as non-confrontational as possible



...ok , first things first, nobody knows the whole story, not I, not you.

I admit it certainly looks bad for the mexican dude who killed the little black kid.

But, does anybody else just get turned off when the rainbow push coalition and the rev al and windbag ed shultz just basically send a small platoon of the msnbc liberal media circus to go down there and start with this loud obnoxious shit.

...the fact is, it might be true, everything they are saying, the racist police, the scumbag mexican guy who murdered him... all of it might very well be true (then again it may not, and this mexican guy should def get a good lawyer because he deserves to be innocent until proven guilty).

but . the way that this is like FODDER for these PROESSIONAL AGITATORS is really pretty amazing to see- they mobilize their whole ground game and make a huge fucking deal, anytime they get the chance.


now why does this rub me the wrong way? because id say 99.8% of the county is not a racist who plots to murder black children and have a police cover up- there may very well be SOME people who do that . like , possibly, this dude in florida.

But the huge huge majority of americans think this is terrible (if its true)...and we dont need jesse jackson or whoever the fuck they have out there being loud and shit to tell us about it... most people are like "yea thats wrong" "its a shame" "something needs to be done" etc...

what we dont need is all these loud agitators getting up and making a fucking federal case out of it-

sure, lets get some justice for trayvon.... but lets also recognize that 99% of the people, probably even 95 or more percent of hte people in this community, are NOT RaCIST and dont even harbour minorly racist attitudes... so all these loud obnoxious people should be directing their anger where it belongs- ie. at the police who investigated, at the guy who allegedly killed trayvon...and NO ONE ELSE... its not a society-wide problem, we dont, for example, need more affirmative action or benefits to minorities to "rectify" this situation- we need, at most, a police chief in this town that is not either incompetent or racist... but the idea that this "exposes" like a huge anti-black people conspirary is just ridiculous IMO.

so . did that come off as nonconfrontationally as i intended it to?

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I frankly don't think this is any different than that bitch Nancy Grace getting on tv and pronouncing people guilty based on her own loud bitchy opinion- the people who should decide this are a jury, not the reverand al who got some email about it from some other rainbow pusher and just decided to use it as fodder for the agenda that we all know he has and continues to have, his agenda has nothing to do with this young kid who was killed- and they are basically just exploiting the shit out of his memory to try to make whites feel guilty, when like 95 or more % of them have nothing to feel guilty about.

...plus obama had to get involved which is just ridiculous, hes a harvard trained lawyer, doesnt he know that people ought not be judged in the court of public opinion.?

...time for another beer summit....
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Old 03-23-2012, 06:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yeah, the reverend Al can be a pain in the balls sometime but there always seems to be a reason for him to be a pain in the balls. To bad we all weren't white and there wasn't that whole history thing.
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Florida is the deep south and they are racist as hell down there. The racism is so ingrained, they don't even think about it. It's just the way it is.

It was about 1976 when a friend of mine was refused service in a bar about 25 miles from where this happened. Because he was black. Totally illegal. Didn't matter. I can't believe it's changed much since then.

I don't like loud mouths either. but sometimes you gotta yell to be heard. If they didn't yell, it would be just another dead black kid.
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Florida is the deep south and they are racist as hell down there. The racism is so ingrained, they don't even think about it. It's just the way it is.

It was about 1976 when a friend of mine was refused service in a bar about 25 miles from where this happened. Because he was black. Totally illegal. Didn't matter. I can't believe it's changed much since then.

I don't like loud mouths either. but sometimes you gotta yell to be heard. If they didn't yell, it would be just another dead black kid.

Way to generalize an entire state. I bet you think you're so much better than they are too...
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Do anyone believe that the DOJ's involvement in this case is not racially motivated?
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It may seem like Florida is deep down south, but it really isn't. It's not fair to call Florida racist either, seeing how you can find all walks of life there. The politicians there might be racist, seeing how they're all old white men, but the people of Florida is a melting pot of all different races.
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How fucking stupid is that law anyway?
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Yes, I did generalize an entire state. I don't mind. I lived there. It's racist in Florida. Very racist.

I live in Kentucky. It's racist here too. Very racist. I see racism every single day. I know what it looks like. Just because I'm not that way, doesn't make me blind to what's happening around me.

Pork, Do I think I'm a better person since I have shed my own racism? Why yes, yes I do.

Sinnin, I never thought it was racist there (even when I lived there), until I took a black friend on vacation with me. In the large, tourist areas, not so bad. In the small town where I lived, bad. That's what I meant when I said, ingrained. My Florida friends never spoke of it. They never said the 'n' word (Geeno, no). Nothing even remotely described as racism. Until a black guy was standing at the door. Then it was totally different.

I do apologize to all the non-racist Floridians. It wasn't quite fair to generalize.

My question is this...

If this kid had been white, would he be dead?
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Yes, I did generalize an entire state. I don't mind. I lived there. It's racist in Florida. Very racist.

I live in Kentucky. It's racist here too. Very racist. I see racism every single day. I know what it looks like. Just because I'm not that way, doesn't make me blind to what's happening around me.
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You are pompous and delusional.

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Sinnin, I never thought it was racist there (even when I lived there), until I took a black friend on vacation with me. In the large, tourist areas, not so bad. In the small town where I lived, bad. That's what I meant when I said, ingrained. My Florida friends never spoke of it. They never said the 'n' word (Geeno, no). Nothing even remotely described as racism. Until a black guy was standing at the door. Then it was totally different.

I do apologize to all the non-racist Floridians. It wasn't quite fair to generalize.
Nature, what's the least racist state in the country?

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If this kid had been white, would he be dead?
What kind of loaded question is this?

Are you implying that half white//mexicans wouldn't kill a white person?

Please explain your intent behind asking this question. Also, give your answer to this question and explain why you feel that way.
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How fucking stupid is that law anyway?

We might need to make another thread to discuss this one.

But...


I think this story could be a really bad case of how this law or "freedom" or whatever someone may want to call it can go wrong. However, we don't have all the info on this case, yet. If it turns out that Zimmerman was actually being attacked by Martin, would you still feel like the law was bad?
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Do anyone believe that the DOJ's involvement in this case is not racially motivated?
Do anyone believe the military has to teach it's baby-killers better English?
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Do anyone believe the military has to teach it's baby-killers better English?

or could just do a better job of proof reading...?
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How old are you? I'm honestly curious.
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The irony is stifling....
Boy, I sure feel safe knowing you are out there protecting our country.


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We might need to make another thread to discuss this one.

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I think this story could be a really bad case of how this law or "freedom" or whatever someone may want to call it can go wrong. However, we don't have all the info on this case, yet. If it turns out that Zimmerman was actually being attacked by Martin, would you still feel like the law was bad?
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