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Old 07-28-2013, 07:22 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Because the answer is simple, marijuana is still illegal on a federal level. These people only care about giving the impression of having power. If they weren't collecting money under the table from tobacco and pharmaceutical companies they might actually listen to what the people who elected them want.

This is nothing more than than a show of power and them trying to override state government. These people elected collect their campaign money from the aforementioned industries and the owners of private prisons. Keeping pot illegal only secures their donations and keeps their political careers alive for another few years.

What would happen to a politician pro pot? Do you think they won't have their political lives ruined?




Don't get me wrong I'd love to hear your opinions on why the singing out those dispensaries.
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So much rambling and babbling just over a stupid drug. Sad.
Your ignorance is duely noted. Now go play where you won't get hurt and where you might have a clue to what is happening. Starting with the fact my god damn Hemp blue jeans aren't a drug anymore than my Ganja plant.

A Trillion spent is a Trillion earned.

The vast majority of prohibitionists
profit on the drug war,..
... and that is their only motive.


QUESTION: In Mexico, there are those who propose not keeping going with this battle and legalize drug trafficking and consumption. What is your opinion?

SECRETARY CLINTON: I don’t think that will work. I mean, I hear the same debate. I hear it in my country. It is not likely to work. There is just too much money in it,

Policing for Profit * Got SqWAT? * Forfeiture $quads * Money Grubbing Dung Worriers * Religious drug treatment in Texas * Kochroach & Aleech

NeoConflicts of Interest MJ Research Cut as Support Grows
* Anti-Drug Campaigns Dumb Down Vital Message
* Calvina Fay Prohibition Inc.
* Cover-Ups, Prevarications, Subversions & Sabotage
* S.A.M. supporter demonstrates its absurdity
* GOP Mogul Behind Drug Rehab 'Torture' Centers




High on Hemp

Henry Ford’s Hemp Plastic Car (1941)
June 22, 2012 by Jack Blood

Henry Ford spent more than a decade researching and building this car whose primary ingredient was hemp plastic. The car weighed 1000 pounds less than a steel car of the same size, yet the exterior body could withstand 10 times the impact:




This documentary covers a whole lot of ground. It deals with every historical and contemporary aspect of hemp usage and cultivation (mainly in the U.S.), which turns out to be a lot. From describing the production of a fibre much more durable and economic than wood, the documentary discusses hemps multilateral uses as e.g. food products, as a non-polluting fuel and as a pharmaceutical product with much less griveous sideeffects than chemical pharmaceutical products. full article continued @deadlinelive

Got Hemp?

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or Fossil Fools Crud

"For a long time now, I have believed that industry & agriculture are natural partners & that they should begin to recognize & practice their partnership. Each of them is suffering from ailments which the other can cure. Agriculture needs a wider &steadier market; industrial workers need more steadier jobs. Can each be made to supply what the other needs? I think so. The link between is Chemistry. In the vicinity of Dearborn we are farming twenty thousand acres for everything from sunflowers to soy beans. We pass the crops through our laboratory to learn how they may be used in the manufacture of motor cars &, thus provide an industrial market for the farmers' products."
~ Henry Ford, March 1933 Ford News, p. 49:
also Ford News, back cover, August 1934
Industry/Agriculture; Dearborn; Farming

HEMP FOR FUEL: Energy Farming in America

Hemp Powered Car Tours US, Canada

Energy Farming Links

"I foresee the time when industry shall no longer denude the forests which require generations to mature, nor use up the mines which were ages in making, but shall draw its raw material largely from the annual produce of the fields. I am convinced that we shall be able to get out of yearly crops most of the basic materials which we now get from forest and mine."
~ Henry Ford, July 1935 Ford News,
p. 125 Industry & Agriculture; Farming

Why Do You Think They Call it DOPE?
* Cannabis Hemp: The Invisible Prohibition Revealed
* The Elkhorn Manifesto
* Marijuana and Hemp: The Untold Story
* The Nation of Apathetic Puppets By John Pilger
* Maintaining Dysfunction

I'd like to devote about three years to the elimination of the cow. There's not reason in the world why the chemist can't discover the cow's secret of converting vegetation into dairy products. And there's less reason why the chemist can't do a better job of it after he learns how."
~ Henry Ford, 7/16/1936 Detroit Free Press
Cows; Science; Farming; Livestock

Cannabis Seeds:
The Most Nutritionally Complete Food on the Planet

Protein: Mad Cows v Hempseed
Mad cow: Japan bans US beef

Factory farming bon apetite'

[url=http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/tainted_meat_states_ are_trying_to_cover_ up_agribusiness_abus es_20110428/]]Investigating agribusiness will soon be a crime[/url * Yahooka

"The way out of the depression is to start spending and doing things."
~ Henry Ford, 5/16/1934 Detroit Times
Depression and Prosperity

Al Capone and Watergate

Hemplastic
or Fossil Fools Crud



"Do you realize the responsibility I carry?
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon
and the White House."
~ John F. Kennedy


Nixon's 40 Year War On Drugs... Drugs Won!

Nixon Lie Keeps on Killing

Once-Secret Nixon Tapes Show Why the U.S. Outlawed Pot



AMA Calls For Ending Nixon's Lie?

Richard Milhouse Nixon to Raymond P. Shafer"

Nixon Commission Report

1972 US Marihuana: A Signal of Misunderstanding
US National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse

Richard Nixon On Pot



Pissing on Drug Warrior Graves

While Nixon Campaigned, FBI Watched John Lennon cache



Nixon Threads
Nixon lied to schedule Ganja #1
While Nixon Campaigned, FBI Watched John Lennon
R.I.P. John Lennon
Nixon's Drug War - Re-Inventing Jim Crow, Targeting The Counter Culture
Nixon's Treason
Shafer Commission Report on Marijuana and Drugs
When leaders act contrary to conscience
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:lol: There's a war on marijuana? Really?

The point of my post was that democracy in the way that patriot referred to it was incorrect.
No, the "m" word is derogatory ignorant and racist term I would never use on my own. Actually wars or rather for profit police actions like Vietnam and Korea and Iraq the moment junior declared mishun complished. They are fought on meth or speed. Go go pills fired up the country during the big war. A few years ago our high flier bombers took out some Canadians. Meth is America's drug of choice even if the dung worriers try to demonize it. I'd bet Rush is countering his oxy and Beck rage and ranting is typical of Hitler raging and ranting and we know he was cranking his ass off. I have no problem demonizing it but that is my preference to abstain from all white powders, especially legal ones. Diet pills to mothers lil picker uppers. Cops on stake out and interns pulling 36 hour shifts. College kids cramming mid terms to graduate Nark school with flying high colors. Truckers hauling produce to the market on time, black beauties, coast to coast turn around just give em weed, whites and wine. Models staying thin and 3 million kids relieving ADHD that Ganja does without side effects. Organ damage, loss of calcium and teeth.

3 million children are taking stimulant drugs for ADHD (Meth)

Ganja for ADHD

Brain short circuits and without Ganja taking off the razor edge in a potentially violent situation. Greater chance of going over. Rednecks working piecemeal already exerting energy smoking boats to pick more fruit or plant more seedlings. Heart headed for an explosion and they haven't a clue. More getting by working two and three jobs or shifts needing to stay awake. Drivers nodding out coming down or road rage ready to kill for nothing. But Ganja is a higher scheduled narcotic hallucinogen however that works botanically I'm not sure. Money, its a gas. The Ganjawar is sold by Wall St multi national corporations. That's all there is too it. It has nothing to do with the dangers of Ganja especially Hemp.

Nixon lied to schedule Ganja #1

Shafer Commission Report on Marijuana and Drugs

Nexxon disregarded his own commission and the Supreme Court decision that the Marihuana Tax Act was unconstitutional on 5th amendment violations. Nixon changed the title to the Controlled Substance Act, tossed in Hemp and Medicinal GanjaRx that were never outlawed by the MTA. Fascism, and 40 years later the gullible sheep of America still haven't got a clue. Letting politicians persecute on a state level or keep it federal is no option, and yet those willing to appease anything to make some bucks help push it. Nothing in the world more common sense than Dispensaries and Apothecaries. With feedback from patients cloning strains to match individuals is working fine. The entrepreneurs growing and setting up shops should be commended and given tax incentives.

The American Legion should be side by side with the advocates to help returning Vets with PTSD over the killer Big Pharma powders. But they can't wish it or pray for it or ConPromise reality over it. The law as bogus as it is, is the law and the law giving states jurisdiction over individuals is also the law. Good or bad is irrelivant, it is still the law in a country of laws. So the same as segregation or jim crow stupidity some states would love to get back. The CSA is the same as the Civil Rights Act. A president can't tweak them to satisfy some states, its repeal it or remove cannabis from it or don't sell it. If you go into it then be aware of the consequesces that selling it is outlawed while personal amounts are left up to the states. Good or bad. Letting cops write your rights away is incremental retardation.

Same as is ready to take the Ganja med market making dispensaries irrelevant and still illegal under the Commerce clause after Raich v Gonzales as I posted earlier in this thread. Still keep Hemp from family farmers or live sprouts fresh from the garden. 30 countries cops have no problem telling the difference between a 15 ft Hemp plant grown close for greater yield, and a bushy shrub with lots of buds. We need to train our cops better or period. CA cops are taught Ganja is not medicine even if its legal as medicine. Another problem we have is taking medical advice from drug czars and cops with vested ignorance and asking doctors to collect evidence to bust patients. Somehow not very Hypocratic.


Ice: The new menace and horror to society....
It's the rage of the working class.

Aging? Got Ganja



Ganja is for those not comfortable with herd mentalities. Conservatives cannabinoid systems are drying up from prohibition. That produces larger fear centers in their brains. More willing to follow blindly, especially authoritah. These are the goody goodies or the wimps and nerdish afraid of society. They would rather have laws tell them what is right and wrong. Or preachers, teachers and politikans. Thinking for themselves is scary so they give up their rights to others. Usually with vested ignorance like profits on police actions..

Clinical Endocannabinoid Deficiency

leading to

Having Larger 'Fear Centers' in Their Brains

Getting us back to where we once belonged jojo...

Using Pot To Save Brains!

Does Weed Turbocharge Outside The Box Thinking?

Oh My This Just In....

The DEA is investigating Mariguana Activists discovery that Endo cannabinoid transmitters are transmitting messages to other activists Endo cannabinoid receptors... Even the NSA can't tap them.... Oh this will never do. We can't have our people talking to themselves without our supervision... Oh deary me... Lordy Jesus...


But I digress. Patriot was making a valid point and a true democracy as some of the forefathers intended, would require citizen participation and that is what conservatives fear and would gladly go back to a monarchy or "republick. Then we have the renagades who are simply uncivilized and require no rules. To them its alls fair and buyer beware. So to have a democracy we need an informed public awareness. That requires a free press, not the corporate money machine selling election ads and the inbedwith yellow whornalism of a faux or msnbc.

The inbedwith dis-infotainment: Gaza to Iraq
The Corporate Muzzle

The closest term would be self imposed slavery or community cannibalism. It's definitely a Fascist money system requiring herds not stray or question the appointed shepherds. Then lead them to greener pastures or less yellow pastures. Work em 30 years and get a gold watch was the old ways. Today its Profits are the Mother of invention. Necessity is a deterrent to whistle blowing. Treatment pays while cures and prevention take profits. Cheap labor is less over head and therefore more profits. Cheap labor by prison slave wages, outsourcing or scabs with or without papers. As the unemployed pool grows more scabs will no doubt undercut living wage earners. More profits.

Hemp grows anywhere organically. So it doesn't abort babies like the cotton crops back in the bible belt of shit-kickers closing health clinics out of some fear of something some radio clown told them to fear. Local markets can buy individuals hemp stalks and seeds like collecting aluminum cans. Then since workers do the actual work we can forfeiture the corporate mills left idle from outsourcing. Or farmers markets adding a new staple. Letting Mexico alone to grow their own Hemp clothing, food and shelters. Why would they risk life and savings to come here for scab wages?


Wall Street's Spontaneous Abortionists
☛Pro Life? Not even anti abortionists...
☛GOPerversion, another Prohibition! On Women...
☛GOP's "A War on Women"

Oh then the corporations would have the problem of the tourist traps paying less than minimum wage. When the growers were paying 5 times more to trim buds. ha ha ha ha ah I thought that was funny. Like our Dispensary giving out joints for cans of food for the Harvest while the preacher turned down donations from growers in some religionists way of solicitation. The dispensary feed a lot of hungry people and the preacher was still begging for proper donations.

Granny Purps
Older/Senior Americans Overwhelmingly Support Legalizing Pot

So in a democracy, since most of the people given the reality and laws of physics and all that stuff that makes it hard on denialists. Most of the time get it right eventually. Racism hasn't been eradicated but we did wipe out slavery in a mere 500 years or so. Except for the koch bros private tax paid cages telemarketing chain gangs. A John Wayne republic is after we are civilized and after the oppression for profits is curtailed and safety net band aids are rare and not life styles. Then I'll concede a republic would be best to expand our horizons personally and as a whole species.



Until then we have to remove the incentives keeping this Fascism mostly nonviolent slimily implemented behind closed doors but nonetheless still fascism alive and well. We have to starve the beast not give it gourmet meals. Its also near impossible to tame the beast with the beast cooperation or its hard to beat the corrupt system, within the corrupt system.

Again by using Ganja and Hemp locally we can circumvent Walmartians who control the Ganjawar and pay for DC politicians, including the Pentagon fighting for profit police actions thought up and strategerized in Heritage Foundation think-tanks. Taking care of our own communities with a staple we can hire people or give the thousands of different products to those in dire need. Straight up without the middleman as we are guaranteed as a necessary prerequisite of Life. Hemp can do it all with carbohydrates the same as hydrocarbon status weird. Plastic to wood without tree destruction. Leaving trees with less cellulose than hemp, to produce fresh water and air and remove co2. Provide thousands of species necessities for their life in the eco system. All inter related and as vulnerable as people from the anti hemp markets forced on us since rockefellers monopoly started.


Al Capone and Watergate

The industrial revolution ended slavery because of the same cheaper labor with a tractor than housing a dozen slaves. Only thing different after the 21st amendment repealing the fabricated 18th amendment banning booze manufacturing. Wasn't less arrested drinkers since no one was ever busted for drinking during the 10 year prohibition. Just the farmers couldn't distill their own tractor fuel from crop remnants as they could before rockefeller gas stations took the market. Al capon was the same red herring everyone saw and heard daily the same as Watergate covered the media reporting of the Controlled Substance Act, lumping in Hemp and Ganja Rx. At the end of the day it is not what is said but what is left to see and made of real atoms and substance.

The Politics of Pot
The 'Virtues' of Ganja

Ganja is or it isn't. It has been tested more than any plant and found to be a safe aid for many symptoms and nutritional food source of omega essential fatty acids. It has more cellulose than trees and greater tensile strength for wood and paper or cotton clothing. My jeans cost more due solely to importing but they last longer and are more comfortable than the chemical cotton requiring 90 million pounds of poisons. If they were grown at home they would be less than almost anything. Rayon or Nylon nature vs mans synthetics is a long war not soon to end as I see it and this Ganjawar is just another chapter. Until we get the apathy level down the sheep won't stray and the new weird odor will still be stinkin up the joint. So we have a ways to go to get to a democracy and even farther to reach the rupublic where accountability and consequences are dealt with. Not here and now.

Until money is out of the system as the incentive we will stay as we have before people started realizing it. Fascism. With that said just because we are starting to figure it out doesn't mean we have to go all ape shit in some fruitless violent revolution. Our entire mindset is programmed as fascist since long before our births. The Romans and then Roman Catholics long before Hitler and Mussolini employed it. With American Wall St Industrialists like Ford, Hearst and Rockefeller and the media praising Fascism. Our family structure schools and work place are all fascist by design. A dictator gives orders and citizens follow or get reprimanded. Kids don't vote on bedtime or workers their pay scales. Can't take a consensus of kids as to how much homework to give. Realizing it or seeing Kochroach & Aleech implement it is the scary part. Just business that can be stopped if we start limiting what some can buy in a government supposed to be for we the people. The media should not profit on elections. Courts should not determine guilt by defendants bank accounts or ability to buy a good lawyer or settle for incompetence pro bono. Science is the worst next to religion of selling crap on tax dollars. As I said the new mother of invention is not necessity, its profits. Democracy Now!


Drug Wars: Menace to America by Tod Mikuriya, M.D

Safe Use of Cannabis" by Tod H. Mikuriya, M.D.

Team Hemp House launches drive to build first Colorado house made of hemp products
By William Breathes in Hemp, News July 25, 2013

Hemp advocate Jason Lauve has a new endeavor: Team Hemp House, the goal of which is to build a hemp demonstration house in Colorado. "The intent is to show that we can use hemp to build the foundation and the walls and the tiles, but also the furnishings in the house, including the food in the fridge," says Lauve, who's helped legalize the crop.

There's a bigger goal, too, he adds: "The Team Hemp House project is the foundation that we need to get the whole industry excited and get it off the ground." Denver Westword has the full story.

High on Hemp
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Al Capone and Watergate were red herrings to divert the countries attention
from the Fascist acts of eliminating competition. Booze/Ethanol then Ganja//Hemp.
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Okay, look-I made a fuckin' joke about the context in which he used a particular word.

Does everybody get it now? Because I can tell you sure as fuck didn't actually read what I suggested so you'd understand what I meant.

You sounded like a condescending jerk to me. Sorry if I misinterpreted.
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No, the "m" word is derogatory ignorant and racist term I would never use on my own. Actually wars or rather for profit police actions like Vietnam and Korea and Iraq the moment junior declared mishun complished. They are fought on meth or speed. Go go pills fired up the country during the big war. A few years ago our high flier bombers took out some Canadians. Meth is America's drug of choice even if the dung worriers try to demonize it. I'd bet Rush is countering his oxy and Beck rage and ranting is typical of Hitler raging and ranting and we know he was cranking his ass off. I have no problem demonizing it but that is my preference to abstain from all white powders, especially legal ones. Diet pills to mothers lil picker uppers. Cops on stake out and interns pulling 36 hour shifts. College kids cramming mid terms to graduate Nark school with flying high colors. Truckers hauling produce to the market on time, black beauties, coast to coast turn around just give em weed, whites and wine. Models staying thin and 3 million kids relieving ADHD that Ganja does without side effects. Organ damage, loss of calcium and teeth.

3 million children are taking stimulant drugs for ADHD (Meth)

Ganja for ADHD

Brain short circuits and without Ganja taking off the razor edge in a potentially violent situation. Greater chance of going over. Rednecks working piecemeal already exerting energy smoking boats to pick more fruit or plant more seedlings. Heart headed for an explosion and they haven't a clue. More getting by working two and three jobs or shifts needing to stay awake. Drivers nodding out coming down or road rage ready to kill for nothing. But Ganja is a higher scheduled narcotic hallucinogen however that works botanically I'm not sure. Money, its a gas. The Ganjawar is sold by Wall St multi national corporations. That's all there is too it. It has nothing to do with the dangers of Ganja especially Hemp.

Nixon lied to schedule Ganja #1

Shafer Commission Report on Marijuana and Drugs

Nexxon disregarded his own commission and the Supreme Court decision that the Marihuana Tax Act was unconstitutional on 5th amendment violations. Nixon changed the title to the Controlled Substance Act, tossed in Hemp and Medicinal GanjaRx that were never outlawed by the MTA. Fascism, and 40 years later the gullible sheep of America still haven't got a clue. Letting politicians persecute on a state level or keep it federal is no option, and yet those willing to appease anything to make some bucks help push it. Nothing in the world more common sense than Dispensaries and Apothecaries. With feedback from patients cloning strains to match individuals is working fine. The entrepreneurs growing and setting up shops should be commended and given tax incentives.

The American Legion should be side by side with the advocates to help returning Vets with PTSD over the killer Big Pharma powders. But they can't wish it or pray for it or ConPromise reality over it. The law as bogus as it is, is the law and the law giving states jurisdiction over individuals is also the law. Good or bad is irrelivant, it is still the law in a country of laws. So the same as segregation or jim crow stupidity some states would love to get back. The CSA is the same as the Civil Rights Act. A president can't tweak them to satisfy some states, its repeal it or remove cannabis from it or don't sell it. If you go into it then be aware of the consequesces that selling it is outlawed while personal amounts are left up to the states. Good or bad. Letting cops write your rights away is incremental retardation.

Same as is ready to take the Ganja med market making dispensaries irrelevant and still illegal under the Commerce clause after Raich v Gonzales as I posted earlier in this thread. Still keep Hemp from family farmers or live sprouts fresh from the garden. 30 countries cops have no problem telling the difference between a 15 ft Hemp plant grown close for greater yield, and a bushy shrub with lots of buds. We need to train our cops better or period. CA cops are taught Ganja is not medicine even if its legal as medicine. Another problem we have is taking medical advice from drug czars and cops with vested ignorance and asking doctors to collect evidence to bust patients. Somehow not very Hypocratic.


Ice: The new menace and horror to society....
It's the rage of the working class.

Aging? Got Ganja



Ganja is for those not comfortable with herd mentalities. Conservatives cannabinoid systems are drying up from prohibition. That produces larger fear centers in their brains. More willing to follow blindly, especially authoritah. These are the goody goodies or the wimps and nerdish afraid of society. They would rather have laws tell them what is right and wrong. Or preachers, teachers and politikans. Thinking for themselves is scary so they give up their rights to others. Usually with vested ignorance like profits on police actions..

Clinical Endocannabinoid Deficiency

leading to

Having Larger 'Fear Centers' in Their Brains

Getting us back to where we once belonged jojo...

Using Pot To Save Brains!

Does Weed Turbocharge Outside The Box Thinking?

Oh My This Just In....

The DEA is investigating Mariguana Activists discovery that Endo cannabinoid transmitters are transmitting messages to other activists Endo cannabinoid receptors... Even the NSA can't tap them.... Oh this will never do. We can't have our people talking to themselves without our supervision... Oh deary me... Lordy Jesus...


But I digress. Patriot was making a valid point and a true democracy as some of the forefathers intended, would require citizen participation and that is what conservatives fear and would gladly go back to a monarchy or "republick. Then we have the renagades who are simply uncivilized and require no rules. To them its alls fair and buyer beware. So to have a democracy we need an informed public awareness. That requires a free press, not the corporate money machine selling election ads and the inbedwith yellow whornalism of a faux or msnbc.

The inbedwith dis-infotainment: Gaza to Iraq
The Corporate Muzzle

The closest term would be self imposed slavery or community cannibalism. It's definitely a Fascist money system requiring herds not stray or question the appointed shepherds. Then lead them to greener pastures or less yellow pastures. Work em 30 years and get a gold watch was the old ways. Today its Profits are the Mother of invention. Necessity is a deterrent to whistle blowing. Treatment pays while cures and prevention take profits. Cheap labor is less over head and therefore more profits. Cheap labor by prison slave wages, outsourcing or scabs with or without papers. As the unemployed pool grows more scabs will no doubt undercut living wage earners. More profits.

Hemp grows anywhere organically. So it doesn't abort babies like the cotton crops back in the bible belt of shit-kickers closing health clinics out of some fear of something some radio clown told them to fear. Local markets can buy individuals hemp stalks and seeds like collecting aluminum cans. Then since workers do the actual work we can forfeiture the corporate mills left idle from outsourcing. Or farmers markets adding a new staple. Letting Mexico alone to grow their own Hemp clothing, food and shelters. Why would they risk life and savings to come here for scab wages?


Wall Street's Spontaneous Abortionists
☛Pro Life? Not even anti abortionists...
☛GOPerversion, another Prohibition! On Women...
☛GOP's "A War on Women"

Oh then the corporations would have the problem of the tourist traps paying less than minimum wage. When the growers were paying 5 times more to trim buds. ha ha ha ha ah I thought that was funny. Like our Dispensary giving out joints for cans of food for the Harvest while the preacher turned down donations from growers in some religionists way of solicitation. The dispensary feed a lot of hungry people and the preacher was still begging for proper donations.

Granny Purps
Older/Senior Americans Overwhelmingly Support Legalizing Pot

So in a democracy, since most of the people given the reality and laws of physics and all that stuff that makes it hard on denialists. Most of the time get it right eventually. Racism hasn't been eradicated but we did wipe out slavery in a mere 500 years or so. Except for the koch bros private tax paid cages telemarketing chain gangs. A John Wayne republic is after we are civilized and after the oppression for profits is curtailed and safety net band aids are rare and not life styles. Then I'll concede a republic would be best to expand our horizons personally and as a whole species.



Until then we have to remove the incentives keeping this Fascism mostly nonviolent slimily implemented behind closed doors but nonetheless still fascism alive and well. We have to starve the beast not give it gourmet meals. Its also near impossible to tame the beast with the beast cooperation or its hard to beat the corrupt system, within the corrupt system.

Again by using Ganja and Hemp locally we can circumvent Walmartians who control the Ganjawar and pay for DC politicians, including the Pentagon fighting for profit police actions thought up and strategerized in Heritage Foundation think-tanks. Taking care of our own communities with a staple we can hire people or give the thousands of different products to those in dire need. Straight up without the middleman as we are guaranteed as a necessary prerequisite of Life. Hemp can do it all with carbohydrates the same as hydrocarbon status weird. Plastic to wood without tree destruction. Leaving trees with less cellulose than hemp, to produce fresh water and air and remove co2. Provide thousands of species necessities for their life in the eco system. All inter related and as vulnerable as people from the anti hemp markets forced on us since rockefellers monopoly started.


Al Capone and Watergate

The industrial revolution ended slavery because of the same cheaper labor with a tractor than housing a dozen slaves. Only thing different after the 21st amendment repealing the fabricated 18th amendment banning booze manufacturing. Wasn't less arrested drinkers since no one was ever busted for drinking during the 10 year prohibition. Just the farmers couldn't distill their own tractor fuel from crop remnants as they could before rockefeller gas stations took the market. Al capon was the same red herring everyone saw and heard daily the same as Watergate covered the media reporting of the Controlled Substance Act, lumping in Hemp and Ganja Rx. At the end of the day it is not what is said but what is left to see and made of real atoms and substance.

The Politics of Pot
The 'Virtues' of Ganja

Ganja is or it isn't. It has been tested more than any plant and found to be a safe aid for many symptoms and nutritional food source of omega essential fatty acids. It has more cellulose than trees and greater tensile strength for wood and paper or cotton clothing. My jeans cost more due solely to importing but they last longer and are more comfortable than the chemical cotton requiring 90 million pounds of poisons. If they were grown at home they would be less than almost anything. Rayon or Nylon nature vs mans synthetics is a long war not soon to end as I see it and this Ganjawar is just another chapter. Until we get the apathy level down the sheep won't stray and the new weird odor will still be stinkin up the joint. So we have a ways to go to get to a democracy and even farther to reach the rupublic where accountability and consequences are dealt with. Not here and now.

Until money is out of the system as the incentive we will stay as we have before people started realizing it. Fascism. With that said just because we are starting to figure it out doesn't mean we have to go all ape shit in some fruitless violent revolution. Our entire mindset is programmed as fascist since long before our births. The Romans and then Roman Catholics long before Hitler and Mussolini employed it. With American Wall St Industrialists like Ford, Hearst and Rockefeller and the media praising Fascism. Our family structure schools and work place are all fascist by design. A dictator gives orders and citizens follow or get reprimanded. Kids don't vote on bedtime or workers their pay scales. Can't take a consensus of kids as to how much homework to give. Realizing it or seeing Kochroach & Aleech implement it is the scary part. Just business that can be stopped if we start limiting what some can buy in a government supposed to be for we the people. The media should not profit on elections. Courts should not determine guilt by defendants bank accounts or ability to buy a good lawyer or settle for incompetence pro bono. Science is the worst next to religion of selling crap on tax dollars. As I said the new mother of invention is not necessity, its profits. Democracy Now!


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Team Hemp House launches drive to build first Colorado house made of hemp products
By William Breathes in Hemp, News July 25, 2013

Hemp advocate Jason Lauve has a new endeavor: Team Hemp House, the goal of which is to build a hemp demonstration house in Colorado. "The intent is to show that we can use hemp to build the foundation and the walls and the tiles, but also the furnishings in the house, including the food in the fridge," says Lauve, who's helped legalize the crop.

There's a bigger goal, too, he adds: "The Team Hemp House project is the foundation that we need to get the whole industry excited and get it off the ground." Denver Westword has the full story.

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Your little pissant tantrum doesn't require you drag the entire post in your reply. When a troll squeaks faux news talking points, I step on the little cockroach, don't like it , don't squeak. How many punks have tried to tell me what to post or not post I gave up counting when junior was selected. The info is for anyone to take or leave. Agree or disagree but don't ever tell anyone to censor themselves because you don't like it. You don't want to be a spring board for info you agree with? Well that just don't make sense.

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Then spain it lucy. Not just a denialists nancy no no repeat what rush said then repeat it again. I only showed you this wasn't a republic and we have work to do before its a true democracy, that is better for all but does require input from all and that is where the corporate media, censored school books and dumbing down the citizery has failed. Go in peace.

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I've never trolled you before, didn't troll you in this thread, and NEVER quote talking points points from Faux News.

With that said, I can't recall ever telling anyone to censor themselves either, so you can fuck straight off if you don't like me quoting your entire post when I reply. Or are you trying to censor me- oh, nevermind.
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Twelve Corrupt Cops in The Rio Grande Valley: THE SUPPLIERS

Speaking of an inside pork... I mean joke...



Documents: Panama Unit answered directly to Sheriff Treviño - The Monitor:



Basicly the police are the new suppliers.


The Rio Grand City police cruisers have LIMO TINT!!
(transports)


The Sherrifs sons:

Morales tells Channel 5 John Carlos Trevino's bond total was set at $14,150.
This arrest comes less than three months after the sheriff's other son,
Jonathan Trevino, pleaded guilty to drug conspiracy charges in federal court
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Borderland Beat: TEXAS: Sons of a Sheriff and Police Chief Busted by FBI for Assisting Drug Traffickers

Two Mission narcotics investigators have been arrested alongside other local
law enforcement officers in a federal corruption probe focusing on drug loads
stolen from the criminals they had been tasked with taking down, law
enforcement officials told The Monitor.

Federal agents Wednesday arrested Jonathan Treviño, son of Hidalgo County
Sheriff Lupe Treviño, and Alexis Espinoza, son of Hidalgo police Chief Rudy
Espinoza, three area law enforcement officials confirmed.

Federal agents searched the Mission Police Department, where they
searched and seized narcotics investigators' “documents and other items”
late Wednesday evening, Mission police Chief Martin Garza said. Two
unmarked white pickup trucks with tinted windows were seen leaving the
police department as local television stations arrived after 9 p.m.

“The actions of these two officers should not detract from the actions of the
146 officers that devote their lives and careers to the department,” Garza
said.

Garza, who did not identify the investigators or confirm their arrests, said
they have been suspended pending the outcome of the federal investigation.
The chief declined to disclose any details about the federal case.

Agents have obtained at least seven arrest warrants in the case, with at
least four law enforcement officers believed to be in federal custody
Wednesday night, a law enforcement officer familiar with the case said.


At least two others targeted in the federal probe are believed to be Hidalgo
County sheriff's deputies assigned to the narcotics division, two law
enforcement officials said.


“They’re buddies,” one law enforcement official said of the Mission officers.
Jonathan “has gone unsupervised since the get-go.”

Details of the investigation, headed by the FBI, remain unclear. No federal
court filings detailing search or arrest warrants, nor any open criminal case
files, had been filed late Wednesday night in U.S. District Court in McAllen.

Spokespersons for the FBI and Immigration and Customs Enforcement
declined to comment Wednesday night.

“I can't confirm or deny anything,” FBI spokesman Erik Vasys said.

Several attempts to reach Sheriff Treviño and Espinoza, formerly a sheriff’s
captain before becoming Hidalgo’s top cop in October, were unsuccessful
Wednesday night.

The federal probe involves a local task force between Hidalgo County and
Mission police known as the Panama Unit, two law enforcement officials said.

“It’s just going to get real, real nasty, real, real quick,” an area law
enforcement investigator said of fallout in Mission police and the Sheriff’s
Office.

Jonathan Treviño works as a narcotics investigator paid by Mission police
assigned to the Panama Unit. Alexis Espinoza also works alongside the
sheriff’s son at Mission police as a task force officer assigned to ICE.

Widespread allegations of wrongdoing involving Jonathan Treviño have
circulated among local police departments for years, but they have failed to
see light — until Wednesday.

“With all the problems he’s had, they should have kicked Jonathan out years ago,” the official said.

Federal agents have been investigating the local task force since at least
July, focusing on reports of drug loads stolen from traffickers only to be resold on the black market.

Whether the probe into the younger Treviño will have political ramifications for his father remains to be seen.

Re-elected last month, Sheriff Treviño has maintained close relationships
with the federal agencies locally and nationally, where he serves as vice
chairman of the Southwest Border Task Force, a 20-member advisory panel
launched by Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano in 2009.


Jonathan Treviño has worked at Mission police since April 2006,
earning a salary of $41,204, according to city salary records released to The
Monitor in March 2012. No record for Espinoza exists on that document.

“Everybody knew that kid was dirty,” the investigator said of Jonathan
Treviño. “It was just a matter of making a case.

“It’s been a long, long time coming.”

Court Documents Allege:

In August, the FBI learned of the Panama Unit helping distribute narcotics, a
criminal complaint states. In September, a confidential source told agents
that a drug trafficking organization was looking for corrupt cops who could
escort drug loads, the complaint states.

That led to a meeting Oct. 19, when the confidential source told Duran that
the organization was going to move a vehicle with 20 kilograms of cocaine
from McAllen through the Falfurrias checkpoint, the complaint states. Duran,
alongside an another unnamed person gave escort for a vehicle they believed
had 20 kilograms of cocaine inside, the complaint states.

November 1, Espinoza met with a confidential informant and agreed to escort
a load of cocaine; he was paid $1,500 as a down payment.

November 2, ICE agents set up an undercover operation where the source
drove a car loaded with drugs from McAllen to Weslaco, which Espinoza, in a
Mission police vehicle, and Duran were supposed to escort another drug load.

Espinoza was paid another $1,500 for his role. After that escort, agents said
Espinoza and Duran met at Sam's Club along Jackson Road in McAllen, where
they received another $2,000.

November 9, ICE set up a similar operation, where Espinoza was paid a total
of $4,000 for his role in escorting the drugs.
[Below Hidalgo Sheriff Lupe Trevino]

Police Chief Supports Federal Agents That Arrested His Son

Espinoza [swearing in ceremony 10/12]

Hidalgo Police Chief Rudy Espinoza said he fully supports federal agents after
they arrested his son and three other local lawmen on drug conspiracy
charges.

The chief's son, Alexis Espinoza, and Jonathan Trevino, Fabian Rodriguez and
Gerardo Duran are accused of being part of a scheme to protect drug loads
in exchange for money. The four men were taken into federal custody.

Espinosa and Trevino were fired from the Mission Police Department on
thursday. Rodriguez and Duran are deputies with the Hidalgo County Sheriff's
Department.

Trevino is the son of Hidalgo Sheriff Lupe Trevino.

Rudy Espinoza issued a media release about his son's arrest.

"I am in support of the federal agencies, as well as any local police units that
are involved in the federal probe," the statement said.

"It is unfortunate that a close family member is involved in these proceedings
... but as a longtime supporter and enforcer of the justice system, I believe
that all allegations and police investigations must proceed with clear
definition and with proper cause," the statement said.

Federal documents show that immigration officers working in Harlingen
received a tip about Alexis Espinoza in August.

Federal agents spent approximately three months conducting undercover
operations. They moved several kilos of cocaine through the Rio Grande
Valley. Records show those agents paid thousands of dollars to Alexis
Espinoza and the other three lawmen for scouting and escorting drug loads
to their drop-off points.









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