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Old 02-18-2015, 04:40 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I actually don't own a TV. I listen to the radio, podcasts mainly. Nightly News being one of very few American news sources I give credence to.
Pathetic, but does explain a lot as to your pedestrian views. Still pathetic.

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Old 02-18-2015, 06:39 PM   #22 (permalink)
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idk man. SNL 40 was not too bad either. I had to watch for the Weekend Update, which is the other American news source I was talking about.
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Old 02-18-2015, 06:59 PM   #23 (permalink)
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You pretty much have to pick and choose which bits and pieces are relevant.

News is just like Wikipedia. You have to know what you can and can't use frm it.
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aljazeera english is one of the least bias news sources when it concerns serbia and covering news that happens here. which is weird. also weird is that the CIA controls the media, there are attacks against journalists, and rampant censorship

Former CIA chief controls most of the media in Serbia – report | InSerbia News
NUNS: 22 attacks on journalists in Serbia this year | Vesti | Tanjug
B92 - News - "Censorship in Serbia is easy to prove" - RWB
Is press censorship in Serbia "worse than the 1990s"? - Index on Censorship | Index on Censorship


not sure the situation is any better in usa or canada...
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Old 02-19-2015, 07:29 PM   #25 (permalink)
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aljazeera english is one of the least bias news sources when it concerns serbia and covering news that happens here. which is weird. also weird is that the CIA controls the media, there are attacks against journalists, and rampant censorship

Former CIA chief controls most of the media in Serbia report | InSerbia News
NUNS: 22 attacks on journalists in Serbia this year | Vesti | Tanjug
B92 - News - "Censorship in Serbia is easy to prove" - RWB
Is press censorship in Serbia "worse than the 1990s"? - Index on Censorship | Index on Censorship


not sure the situation is any better in usa or canada...
The giveaway is the name of Vucic's party... they're "Progressives", which in the upside down world of money and politics means the exact opposite of what it is called, they are the regressive's, and apparently they intend to regress to pre-1990. It's always about the money.

The on-going issues with Kosovo are about property rights and wealth. The War Crimes Tribunals were more about establishing a basis for a claim of financial retribution. The asshole that had no comment about the cancellation of the political talk show... just watchin' out for his paycheck, just like everybody else. When it's not food, it's money, and since power controls both, it's pretty easy to see why the ones in charge are always resorting to anything they can to keep that power, no matter how ridiculous or callous. Right now they're just worried about getting their EU card punched, so the depth and breadth of political and economic bullshit propaganda that you are going to be subjected to will be overwhelming. New World Order baby. That's where they want us to go. Nice to see Serbs submitting and getting in line with the rest of us.

I hear we'll be getting showers when the train reaches the camp.

Do you guys have drive thru windows on your anti-anxiety pill dispensaries yet. If not, take heart, you will.

Interesting how Russians elect the same old shit, in Putin. Their militarism destroyed their economy... so they supposedly back a nut job that wants to pick up where the Soviets left off? Ya don't pull that off without controlling the information machine, and the polls of course. What was Putin's old Soviet job again?

The Serbs elect Slobo's old Information Minister... 'cuz I guess their other war criminal dying at the Hague kinda fucked up any plans of a return engagement. They consider Mladic a hero for the largest mass murder since Pol Pot. Our CIA runs the newspaper and cable, but even with 5 and then later 10 million in reward they couldn't find Mladic 'til just a few years ago, 'cuz it also happened to coincidentally happen about the time of their EU appraisal deadline. Shades of "finding Osama". Funny how that kind of timing always seems to work out. Sorta like Clitton jumping into Bosnia in the first place... not that the wag the dog - Monika who thing actually worked, but then again, there were Republitards involved in the investigating?

In politics everything happens for a reason, and that reason is never what they try and convince us it is... ever! Just remember as you watch the news and read your paper, you're getting the same filtered shit that we get, and it's for their cause not ours.

My advice to anyone wanting to be a journalist in the old Yugoslavia is... don't. Maybe buy a big gun or four and move to a hilltop in the middle of nowhere with a great field of fire if you really must blog, but otherwise, the CIA generally takes a very dim view of opposition.

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mladic was actually not hiding at all. he lived in a block neighbouring mine and was often spotted running by the river or shopping at the market. average people do not see any hope to fight against the system since djindic was murdered. all of the people in milosevics' party are in power now trying to integrate serbia with europe while making shady deals with middle eastern elites and keeping ties with russia strong. its a wide net of possible sources of income, similar to the yugoslavian theory of non-alignment (accept money from all sides). things are definitely changing and its hard to say that they are getting worse. joining the eu will be a benefit to serbia, the largest being freedom of movement for citizens, at least until greater problems sink the entire thing.

better to save up for a small house in a village where none of that shit matters
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mladic was actually not hiding at all. he lived in a block neighbouring mine and was often spotted running by the river or shopping at the market. average people do not see any hope to fight against the system since djindic was murdered. all of the people in milosevics' party are in power now trying to integrate serbia with europe while making shady deals with middle eastern elites and keeping ties with russia strong. its a wide net of possible sources of income, similar to the yugoslavian theory of non-alignment (accept money from all sides). things are definitely changing and its hard to say that they are getting worse. joining the eu will be a benefit to serbia, the largest being freedom of movement for citizens, at least until greater problems sink the entire thing.

better to save up for a small house in a village where none of that shit matters
That's kinda crazy. Not to rub salt in the wound but you do realize that they were offering something like 5 or 10 million Euro's for that putz not that long ago?
The whole good and bad of joining the EU is like a Spy vs. Spy comic. The members are all still very much concerned with their own interests first... but they're collectively trying to compete against Asia and America economically. The thing that has always fascinated me (and I've never gotten a pro Unionist to adequately explain or defend this) but what the fuck happens to the nation's sovereignty when something like this bail out of Greece pops up?

There is nothing in Germany's Constitution that will allow its government to subjugate the country's wealth and debt management to a third party, even if they are members of that party. Essentially the union either is or it ain't. If it is, then each member must be able and willing to submit to the will of the majority, even if it is at the detriment of the individual country. That generally goes against every country's Constitution as well as rubbing hard against the nationalistic grain of what is, let's face it, one of the most warring bunch of knuckleheads on the planet (says the American hegemonist).

The New World Order Fabians that run most of this socialist dream don't give a rats ass that Greece will forever be broke, orthat Portgugal and Spain be insolvent. The ultimate objective is not strength in numbers. The goal is to destroy sovereignty and create a set of circumstances where shit is so bad across the board that the peoples all rise up and demand that their government do something to fix it. Food prices will continue to climb, energy will become even more prohibitive in cost, and eventually the tired, cold, and hungry will line up to join the party... or perish.

The conditions in Europe after WW II were perfect for the socialist fascists. Everything was broken and nobody but the ruling class had a pot to piss in. The people in charge know full well that the easiest way to lead people where they would not normally want to go is to create traumatic environs where they currently find at least some level of comfort in their misery.

I equate it to forming a new habit or behavior in a teenager, or training a cow to an electric fence, 'cuz people are generally very bovine in their nature. Wherever you put the fence, they WILL walk all of the way out there and lean on it to test the boundaries. The only way to change that is to move the fence or turn up the voltage, thereby providing a significant barrier that forces them to alter their previous routine. After just a few weeks they may be unhappy, but the new habit is in place, and they will generally comply.

With people the process can sometimes be more Byzantine, but it ultimately follows the same general path of significant disruption followed by the implanting of a new habit or behavior. Destroy their hope, keep 'em broke, keep them cold and hungry, and make sure to quash opportunity. The military uses the same process to brainwash new troops except that they rely on sleep deprivation and foreign surroundings to soften up any resistance.

Just look at the "Arab Spring" as an example. The people there are just like the rest of us, they just wanna be left the fuck alone to pursue their hopes and dreams while taking care of their families and not getting their shit stolen or being killed. They wouldn't care if Yogi and Boo Boo were claiming to be in charge if those conditions are met. But as the Western manipulators managed to debase their currency, while also fucking with the price of their food (rice/commodity market speculation... which had not been permitted or so directly accessible to the banksters until fairly recently) people began to loose hope. Inflation was rampant, prices soared (most especially rice) and it doesn't take a whole lot of days of parents watching and listening as their children cry from hunger before shit gets very unsettled. Our CIA has a knack for this sort of shit, as Iran has been shown many times before, but now that we have this globalized Borg of incredibly lethal and militaristic governments working in tandem with their corporate owners, look the fuck out.

So yeah... welcome to the EU. Leave your hopes and dreams at the door, deposit all solvent currency and gold reserves in the abyss to your right, and walk toward the light.
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The regulation that comes with EU membership should take care of the opportunities that you think are coming
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