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Old 04-30-2015, 12:41 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Read it all, liked it to a point. It really glossed over the NEXT STEP part of the "revolution". Riots happen everywhere and all the time. I pray to God the police stop treating every black guy like an escaped slave. The point I want to make is that: as far as riots go this one is shit.

If this was a thousand years ago we'd have marched our asses to DC with pitchforks and daggers. Now all we have are octogenarians with too many guns on one side and the liberals on the other side trying to remove guns by force of law in places that don't suffer any gun violence.

The problem here is cops. Cops in America. The fact we are now apparently herded by police who have call of duty style body armor. The fact any riot can be stopped in a day because of the National Guard. Because no protest or riot or mutiny will ever work anymore.

The fish rots from the fucking head.
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Baltimore Orioles COO John Angelos took to Twitter to defend #FreddieGray protests and writes a scathing critique of how elites shipped jobs overseas while a militarized police crushes our legal rights.


Orioles COO John Angelos offers eye-opening perspective on Baltimore protests

Corruption is never stopped by blue lines of silence…
The corruption is sanctioned in the drug war.

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It's all over now that the Army is there.

Everybody hard til the National Guard shows up. Pussies.

Kent State protestors didn't even have guns and they got more balls than the whole fucking city of Baltimore.
Not sure where ya got that idea Ter. When the maroons opened fire on the unarmed at Kent State people just fucking ran and dove for the ground. They never actually expected to be fired upon. You want crazy/balls? Those high school kids that were chasing the goons up Pennsylvania Ave. lobbin' bricks and concrete were plenty of both. They must have realized early on that the cops had been told to stand down or something 'cuz that was some bold/crazy shit. Go grab a brick and see how far you can throw it. Now imagine being that close to a target that you know doesn't like you, and who's armed for all out war and see how ballsy you're feeling.

I'm guessing you were just funnnin'. Personally I'm not into hitting kids, little troll cunts maybe, but not kids. I do however laugh my ass off when I see the cops getting boinked with chunks of curb and gutter as they run backwards up the street. They all deserve whatever fucked up shit befalls them.

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is it ok to hit your kids if you catch them rioting? Input sage? I'd ask galt but I assume he hits kids just for being weaker than him.
Seriously... you really don't need to try quite so hard.
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The woman is a single mother of six who had just lost her job, and she had gone to the Mall to look for her son once she discovered that the genius's running the City had shut down the buses, which is why so many ended up at the Mall by accident as well as by their own design. She said she was standing near the police while looking for him, and that shit was raining down on them the whole time, but even with the hoodie and mask she recognized his baggy ass sweat pants and just snapped 'cuz she was worried about keeping him safe. She never mentioned it but I'm sure that had everything to do with what anybody who has ever lived in that city knows about their cops, and she probably figured it wasn't gonna be long before they started to strike back. She also mentioned that he was engaged in throwing rocks at da poleece (don't squirt your tampoon kitch, it's a Bal-moron thing, not your belovedly "poetic" Ebonics).

Too bad that even the City administrators know that it's all or nothing with their goon squad. Either turn 'em loose to bash heads and break bones, or stand and do nothing at all while the last people crazy enough to open a business in that city have their shit destroyed. Pretty pathetic. Of course the administrations of the past are also the ones that set the standards for hiring and training so I guess you get what ya vote for. I think the best part of this whole thing is that it will hopefully be the last of Martin O'Smarmey's political career. He's the asshole who took a bad situation and made it ten times worse with his zero tolerance bullshit. What a great way for a condescending White guy (ultra-liberal though he may claim to be) to completely alienate and piss off an entire city. He had the goons arresting folks just for sitting on their stoop (front steps to your row house in B'more) and hittin' a 40. How much more chicken shit can ya get?

During the 70's, 80's, and into 90's, there were neighborhoods all over Baltimore where you could walk around with a brown bag or a joint and hardly anybody would even take note. Then O'Malley started his shit (in retrospect his predicessor Schmoke was the one who wanted to start passing out clean needles and decriminalizing drugs in the City - which O'Malley- then on the City Council - pilloried him for), but the real hero'n markets were never touched. That was special. Loch Raven and 33rd, several between Monument and Patterson Park, including a tire repair business that's been sellin' heroin since I was a kid, and I don't think anybody has ever seen a tire go into or out of the place. Corner of Monroe and Fulton actually had a drive thru lane, where cars would just pull up onto the sidewalk for service. Bouldon St. off of Eastern Ave. & Highland, I could name a hundred, and even though I haven't lived in town for decades, nor in the area for years, I guarantee you can go to any one of these places right now and cop. Down the street from the intersection of North and Pennsylvania (pretty much ground zero where the Fast Cash joint was) is Pennsylvania Street Market, where the entire surrounding area for a half block in every direction is literally crawling with dealers. The hero'n trade down there is so out'a control they could run sweeps on the half hour and never make a dent.

It's hard to believe that in the midst of such widespread and open heroin dealing that everybody in City gov't isn't somehow getting paid (but they are). Of course Mayor Blake's predecessor, Sheila Dixon, had a boyfriend who was another drug dealer turned real estate developer, but that's been the norm since Baltimore elected their first Black Mayor in Mr. Schmoke. As he stepped in to replace Willie Don Schaefer - who'd become governor, his head of housing - a crook named Dan Henson, made it immediately clear at our first meeting that "the game is the same, the only thing that changed was that Black folk are gonna get paid." And that they did. The Feral financed redevelopment of Sandtown Winchester made many sheckels for the Mayor, Mr, Henson, and the husband of the Mayor's wife's tennis partner. The fact is that Baltimore's corruption has been so long ensconced and controlled by their Democratic criminals that they gave up trying to hide it ages ago. Ms. Dixon's only mistake was in rubbing people's faces in it, otherwise she could have been Maryland's first Black governor. The other unfortunate fact is that she was also a much better administrator than the current maroon.

Empress Stephanie is simply too stupid by half. I hadn't caught it but a friend still living just a few minutes from the rioting, in Bolton Hill, chided that only an asshole like her would wear an Under Armor hat to a press conference dealing with young people rioting after she had closed half of the city's rec centers in order to privatize them? Only problem was... nobody is as dumb as her, so they aren't about to invest a dime in that shit hole of a city, and of course she had neglected to actually develop that part of the plan before she closed the rec centers. More to come on that front as Baltimore will again pay the price for it's rage. Wait and see how much money does not get reinvested there. The last Jewish small business turned out the lights after the riots in '68. This time around it'll probably be the last of the Koreans and Pakistani's, and who could blame them? The drug companies will be back, 'cuz it's just too damn profitable - selling legal drugs, but even before the riots, you couldn't give away a small business in West Baltimore.
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There's another funeral home right across from the Mondawmin Mall where a an ex-Loyola hoops star named "Slim" Butler set up shop. He was one of the biggest heroin distributors in the city for years and years, but he was known among the local Black political wannabes as a man that you wanted to have in your corner. He and one of the many political crooks from that neighborhood, Larry Young, were figures that several of the characters in The Wire were not so loosely based on (Stringer Bell as an amalgamated character that was mainly drug dealer/developer Slim Butler, and Clay Davis as de-frocked crooked ass State Senator Larry Young). Watching that show always kinda creeped me out, what with the art imitating life and all, and then having known the people that were being portrayed... They were all much worse IRL.

Slim Butler Baltimore | Businessman faces charges of fraud, money laundering Mogul's flagging empire was begun after '56 parole from murder conviction - tribunedigital-baltimoresun

Slim Butler Baltimore | Family sees a killer, not a success story - tribunedigital-baltimoresun

Slim Butler Baltimore | Killer exhibits anti-Semitism but no remorse - tribunedigital-baltimoresun

This actually begins to get at a strange sort of dynamic unique to Baltimore and maybe a few other eastern seaboard cities that have large established Jewish populations. Blacks perceive Jews as owning and running the city because they do in fact own large portions of the real estate there. Urban sprawl as manifested in Baltimore began with the migration of Jewish merchants out along the Liberty Road and Reisterstown Road corridor out toward and eventually into Baltimore County. As the original Jewish property owners left for nicer digs they frequently retained ownership of their previous domicile and turned them into rentals, a very tried and true way to build security and wealth, but it also ultimately has a destabilizing effect on the neighborhoods as more and more private homes become rentals. Many of these property owners were also some of the bigger employers in the area. For decades they hired their domestic help from the very Black community where they rented their old homes, and as they continued to thrive and prosper, portions of the Black community that worked for them followed the march to greener pastures, eventually creating several transitional communities where poor Jews lived amongst slightly better than the average for the area Black folk lived. The wealthier Jews kept moving out away from the city, and up until the riots of '68 things were in a sort of dysfunctional segregated equilibrium.

The Jews did own most everything in their communities, but it was simply the result of their cultural ethics bearing predictable fruit. The majority of Blacks in Baltimore however were not particularly well prepared to do the same, and even today, they still own a minority of the small businesses in their own nearly all Black Communities. Baltimore had/has one of the largest populations of slave related Black populations in the country, and during Reconstruction Mobtown began to attract more than its fair share of the rural to urban migration due to its location as a manufacturing and transportation hub, as well as a central location in the eastern produce, rail and sea shipping industries. Railroads, ship building, and steel making were all big business as the new century began, and Blacks from the southern tobacco and cotton fields found previously unimagined upward mobility, albeit extremely segregated - even still today, through the early part of the east's industrialization. Jews had a religious heritage that basically required that its followers be literate, so by extension education has always been a very significant part of their lives. Descendants of slaves had little or no real understanding of a common past culture per se, nor clear understanding of their "roots". There was a new Black culture of sorts that had begun to evolve, but because of their American past (where education was forbidden to them) and the need to simply survive, getting a job and being able to eat was a lot more important than getting an education. There were of course exceptions, but as a general rule this is where a lot of the separation began to occur.

Of course it never helped that the Jews took a pretty condescending attitude toward "their Schwartzas". Although the Yiddish term for Black people is not intrinsically hateful, it did nonetheless develop a kind of denigrating tone about it among Jews in the U.S. Meanwhile the Blacks that lived in their rental properties and who worked for them grew to resent their attitudes and the fact that they did in many ways represent the old "Company Store" so to speak. Jews owned their home, paid their wages, sold them their cars, clothes, food, and drink, and yet very few if any Black entrepreneurs evolved that were interested or capable of challenging this status quo. Among the WASP crowd the idea of investing in inner city anything was an anathema. There were homes and strip malls to be built all over the newly created suburbs of America, and especially around Baltimore. Why risk capital working in an area that hates you was the common ideal. Then as I mentioned, the riots of '68 pretty much screwed the pooch for all.

The Blacks burned the neighborhoods that they lived in because they were shit and they didn't own any of it. It wasn't their stores or housing, it was some rich White Jew's shit that lived way out in the county. WTF did they care if a rental burned... the government would come in and build them something new, and beginning right after the end of WW II the government had begun to do a lot of that very thing in a very big and tall way.

Here's an interesting article about B'more's past history of segregation and public housing that traces back to FDR's reign in the 30's.

https://indyreader.org/content/histo...tion-baltimore


One thing that has shifted, albeit glacially, is the realization amongst urban planners that people who own their home, rather than being generational renters, are much more apt to take care of that home. A big part of the loosening up of credit to home buyers, prior to the collapse, was the gov't, and the FHA in particular, requiring lenders that participated in their programs to lend money to more poor Blacks, whether they possessed acceptable credit or not. Rather predictably a huge and disproportionate number of those loans went into default in just their first year, but their hearts were in the right place... backed up by other people's money of course (read that taxpayers'). The Blacks that did manage to access this new source of funding were quick to leave the city and move to where the better schools and safer neighborhoods were located, just like everybody else had done before. Those that remained behind had for the most part devolved into permanent wards of the State, and the State itself had pretty much assumed that that was a trend that was never going to change, hence their newer housing projects all coming with 24 hour security and trash collection from people's door (to keep the trash from being simply tossed in the street). Residents of public housing in Baltimore are treated like retarded children, but in the city's defense, they generally tend to act that way.

One interesting note about the rioting and destruction that took place. The neighborhoods where Blacks actually own most of the homes rather than rent completely escaped the onslaught. Too bad the rioters didn't go directly to the tourist traps and financial district, but then again that wouldn't have gone too well for them since THAT is where the National Guard eventually deployed to first, and that is also where a huge majority of the local police forces were already detailed. The administration doesn't mind a few stores and houses out in the slums getting torched, but you'd better think again before you fuck with their older, more gentrified, monied neighborhoods further out, or their jewel of the remaining tax base around the Inner Harbor.

Fucking baseball game played with no one there??? WTYF???

I've lived and worked all over the world, as well as every State in the country, and Baltimore is completely and totally unique. There's no organized crime in the classic Italian Mafia sense, but there certainly is within the Jewish, Black, and Greek communities. Some of the warmest and most generous people I've ever met... living in a city where life is as cheap as Somalia or the Sudan. I would definitely put it up as potentially the most uncivilized place in America today.
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Regarding Angelos and the O's, Daddy Peter made his billions used to buy the Orioles off of the death of asbestos victims in the shipyards and steel mills of Baltimore. Since then he's been ass deep in the union extortion that's working to destroy what's left of small businesses there. His Daddy also extorted a broke ass City in order to get himself that sweetheart stadium and broadcasting rights package... all at the tax payers expense, and while doing less than nothing for the general population of the city itself. Needless to say, there aren't a whole lot of union trades people living in Baltimore, and all that the professional sports teams bring to the city is more shitty seasonal service jobs at best. Might as well be a janitor at one of the other rich Greek guy's many hotels around the Harbor.
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Almost forgot Terry, and this is also somewhat relative to the Angelos comments. Following the National Guard murders at Kent State there was a long and involved gov't investigation. In the end something like a dozen or more students and protest organizers were charged with crimes that were deemed to have been contributory to the unrest, but never not one of the Guardsmen nor their idiot leaders was ever charged with anything.
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The War on Drugs and the streets of our cities « Drug WarRant

Freddie Gray a victim of America’s longest war
Overall, the record on Freddie Gray reveals a young man who had frequent encounters with police as they carried out local operations in America’s longest war: the war on drugs.[…]

So, generally speaking, Gray was a low-level, nonviolent offender.

Some people will say his record is irrelevant to the central issues — how he died while in the custody of Baltimore police, and why the police pursued him on April 12 to begin with — and I agree.

But I mention his record because his encounters with the law stemmed from the enforcement of our drug laws.

Such encounters occur constantly throughout the country.[…]

Still, even with that change, we have the war on drugs. It goes on, day after day, constantly creating needless encounters between police and people like Freddie Gray.

I’m just trying to imagine what police/community relations might be like today if there’d never been a war on drugs.
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David Simon on Baltimore’s Anguish
I guess there’s an awful lot to understand and I’m not sure I understand all of it. The part that seems systemic and connected is that the drug war — which Baltimore waged as aggressively as any American city — was transforming in terms of police/community relations, in terms of trust, particularly between the black community and the police department. Probable cause was destroyed by the drug war. It happened in stages, but even in the time that I was a police reporter, which would have been the early 80s to the early 90s, the need for police officers to address the basic rights of the people they were policing in Baltimore was minimized. It was done almost as a plan by the local government, by police commissioners and mayors, and it not only made everybody in these poor communities vulnerable to the most arbitrary behavior on the part of the police officers, it taught police officers how not to distinguish in ways that they once did. continued

I know that there’s a lot of push to simply call the problem in Baltimore racism, and racism is part of the picture, but the bigger issue is the drug war and the need for us to dramatically reform the criminal justice system in America.
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Fox News Contributor Spins Baseless Theory Freddie Gray Was on Drugs When Arrested
Bo Dietl: "I'm just hoping that they did toxicology on" Gray because "I really feel ... possibly, he was on drugs."

On Thursday’s edition of “Fox & Friends,” Dietl even insinuated that Gray could have been so whacked out on dope that he gave his fatal injuries to himself.

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Maybe Freddie Gray Was High And 'Slipped & Fell'
Fox News contributor Bo Dietl suggested on Thursday that the Baltimore Police Department was innocent in the death of Freddie Gray because he had likely taken drugs, causing him to injure himself...

A complete takedown of the lies spread by the Baltimore PD and Washington Post on Freddie Gray

So many egregious and disturbing lies are being told about Freddie Gray.



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6 cops indicted. See if it sticks. Jury of their peers in bmore should be 2/3 black, video shows 3 white cops arresting him.
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