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Old 05-09-2015, 11:49 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Also DdC your point as far as I can see it is that we should vote for Hillary because if we don't a neocon will be elected president.
NO Terry, we are getting a Neocon with Hilary or Bush. Voting for Hilary votes for her base that can keep her from doing more harm where a Neocon base gets us traveling in reverse. Of coarse Bernie is the better man but not if he can't get the job. Same as Nader leaving us with Junior bush. Hilary sucks as bad as her old man but like with Obama not doing much of anything to help. Has given us a chance to build the dispensary infrastructure and growers supplying them. Walters kept the DEA budget fed and we had to get it from the street.

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This is where you and I differ. They are exactly the fucking same.
I just said that, but the base is totally different. Having a Neocon pres with a non questioning or even enthusiastic followers is the difference.

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If Hillary won all we'd get is some token money thrown at the poor at the expense of thousands of dead Arabs.
Not if we stop her. But the bush base won't try to stop bush. We can hold reps accountable and sway votes in Congress, where republicans won't even argue. Do you think the GOP isn't already planning attacks with Israel? All of Bernie's support comes from progressives. Hopefully the primaries will sort it out and no one will have to vote Hilary if Bernie gets the nod. But then we will have a socialist target to scare people into voting Bush. So again, Bernie is good to sway the party platform but I don't see him as able to beat a Bush machine. Hilary isn't our choice but I have to say is the lesser evil of J.E.B. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater doesn't win Gaza peace.

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Fuck them all. I got duped once with Obama and I will not let it happen again.
That is your own fault for putting faith in someone who clearly ran as a moderate. Never said he was against the drug war. Never said he would legalize Ganja. But many read that into his to do list. He hasn't done anything much except leave us to our own devices which is better than getting pushed back at by Neocons.

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Old 05-09-2015, 12:44 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I'm thinking that a strong anti police brutality campaign by sanders would help him pick up a lot of steam. I think he's got a really good chance in New Hampshire, as New Hampshire democrats share a lot of values with Vermont. I've seen a number of signs for him already and none for Clinton. The socialist thing really is gonna become a sticking point though as seniors are the most active voting bloc and they all grew up during the red scare, it will never play in the south and fox news is gonna spend hours and hours conflating him to Stalin and Mao. Honestly I don't think many people are stoked on Hillary, at least not here. My dad showed me an email from the DNC that had a picture of Sanders at the top, then a picture of Hillary and underneith it said "They're In!" Then several pics of (R) candidates and reasons it was important to donate to the dems. It was really interesting to me though that Sanders was at the top of the page even though he's not officially a democrat.
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Old 05-09-2015, 04:20 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Yawn, is this a weekend at Bernies? Same old boring crap with no remedy, just whines.



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OtherLegalize cannabis in all forms and stop the wasteful drug war. This will bypass Wall St with local markets to curtail Income and Wealth Inequality, create Jobs and Income, makes possible Campaign Finance Reform, as a renewable resource in competition with fossil fools, trees and crude oil plastic, Hemp can alleviate climate change, more local income for more who can afford college. Ganja is homegrown affordable health care. It has already stems poverty hiring bud trimmers and gardeners. It has already given CO $44M in taxes from just recreational use. So all of the bases are covered and yet you don't even have it on your list. Is this a joke or another Hilary in sheep s clothing?

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Ganja has brought in $700M the first year, more jobs and affordable healthcare and less destructive than booze or pills. Yet not on the progressive agenda?



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Tax reform: We need real tax reform which makes the rich and profitable corporations begin to pay their fair share of taxes. We need a tax system which is fair and progressive. Children should not go hungry in this country while profitable corporations and the wealthy avoid their tax responsibilities by stashing their money in the Cayman Islands.

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The struggle to create a nation and world of economic and social justice and environmental sanity is not an easy one. The struggle to try and create a more peaceful world will be extremely difficult. But this I know: despair is not an option if we care about our kids and grandchildren. Giving up is not an option if we want to prevent irreparable harm to our planet.

This country belongs to all of us, not just the billionaire class. That's what our campaign is all about, but it cannot be won by me alone. That is absolutely for sure. To win this campaign, all of us must be deeply involved.

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Come on Bernie, with a name like that how can you shun Ganja edibles?

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Man this was an interesting read almost a year later

Dr Nick Nasty plz come back why did you want Lincoln Chaffee? Whyyyyyyyy?

Also Fender looks dumb in this thread and kitch looks smart in one post

But Stoneric..... Le Drumpf is the only man that has said hes neutral in Israel/Palestine, in a presidential contest... In the history of Israel?
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Yea its interesting. Reading my own posts and feeling proud of some, confused by others (other threads must have tied in) and embarrassed by at least one. This started during our federal campaign.
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