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Old 01-09-2016, 10:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Oregon stand-off

So a group of ranchers and other assorted people have occupied a government building in Oregon. It is the local headquarters for the Bureau of Land Management.

Black White or Other?

JK we all know theres only white people in oregon.

But I have to say this has been a tough one to read about. It's mostly opinion pieces about white people and right wingers. A lot of jokes pieces floating around about the specific people involved and their possibly cartoonish nature.

It would seem that this is just one sides escalation of a battle between western land owners/ranchers and the feds that has been going on for decades. I wonder how long it'll be before the ranchers get bored and wander off or if there will be more escalation from either party.
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Old 01-09-2016, 10:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
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1 brown joins their ranks and it'll be terrorism, you know what I'm saying?
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Old 01-09-2016, 11:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm seeing a lot of this lately.
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I don't see this going anywhere.

This is the 2 sons of that nitwit Cliven Bundy and a bunch of militia, from elsewhere, plus 1 ex-marine wannabe.

They are occupying a building (tourist center?) in a Wildlife Reserve. In protest of the prison sentences of 2 guys who started a fire on federal property, to cover up them poaching.

They want the feds to turn over the land in Oregon, so they can hunt, mine and chop. For some reason, they believe it is theirs to do with as they wish.

Back in the day, homesteaders were given 160 acres of FREE land, but only if you were white. I can hear the Paiutes crying from here. Or maybe laughing.

Cliven Bundy is the guy who has refused to pay for grazing rights on federal land, leaving people like me and you to foot the bill.

And, oh yeah, did they get their snacks and socks yet?
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Old 01-09-2016, 11:20 AM   #5 (permalink)
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These wannabe soldiers would wet themselves at the first sign of a black helicopter. I'm not taking the feds side on this either, Turm's post says it all.
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Where these guys a few months ago when sacred Native Land, in Arizona, was sold by John McCain?
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Old 01-09-2016, 11:39 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Some dude came in to my hotel yesterday and went off on how these guys are heroes and Obama should be lynched (seriously).

It seems like the only people who blather about politics to me are cuckservatives. Very annoying. It sucks I have to be nice to them.
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Im still trying to figure out what changes BLM made in 93 that made Bundy not renew his license and refuse to pay fines, which I think were around 200 per cow per day. Seems like a really high fine when he may have had like 1000 cows out there.
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Some dude came in to my hotel yesterday and went off on how these guys are heroes and Obama should be lynched (seriously).

It seems like the only people who blather about politics to me are cuckservatives. Very annoying. It sucks I have to be nice to them.
It was turned into hamburger and fed to pigs, over hear last week.

I was impressed at the subtle alluding to haram animals, in reference to Obama being Muslim.
I was like hey... This guy finally learned one damned thing about Islam.

*sarcasm fully intact*
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Im still trying to figure out what changes BLM made in 93 that made Bundy not renew his license and refuse to pay fines, which I think were around 200 per cow per day. Seems like a really high fine when he may have had like 1000 cows out there.
I'd guess punishments being stiff are sort of the idea, right?
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Some dude came in to my hotel yesterday and went off on how these guys are heroes and Obama should be lynched (seriously).

It seems like the only people who blather about politics to me are cuckservatives. Very annoying. It sucks I have to be nice to them.
I work with one of those. Very annoying, but I don't have to be nice all the time.

Him: I hate those *n* on welfare.

Me: But your family gets food stamps. That's welfare.

Him: I hope Trump wins and gets rid of Obamacare.

Me: But didn't you get your bum knee fixed with Obamacare?


The good thing is I know he won't vote.
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That'd be funny if it wasn't so fecking sad.
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It looks as if some of Cliven Bundy's permits were not renewed.
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I mean the BLM didn't renew them.
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Cliven Bundy is the guy who has refused to pay for grazing rights on federal land, leaving people like me and you to foot the bill.
I'm not so sure how his fines would get passed on to the public, it seems like we'd pay more if the feds went through with the cattle confiscation.
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They're holed up in what amounts to a large outhouse. The Feds are right in ignoring these bozos as it's quickly turning into the non-event of the year.
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It's definitely not a happening but depending on where each side goes with this, it could quickly turn in to one.

The BLM is intrusive to their livelihoods and isn't a saint in this longstanding battle with ranchers, loggers and miners. On the other hand I have always been an environmentalist so I agree with the philosophy of preserving natural resources. I'm trying to imagine what it would be like if I were surrounded by federal land and unable to use any of it to my economic gain.

It's hard to imagine because I've never attempted to live off the land, and I've never lived in an area that has massive swaths of federal land.
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If I'm not mistaken this was leased land for grazing with a very low lease price. The guys just want the land and not pay for it. I say fuckem. They can save a few bucks and buy a ranch if they want their own place. The feds should just lease it to someone who'll pay the rent. I fear the bar has dropped for our genetic pool to the point of no return.
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It's malheur federal wild life refuge there occupying.
Not a "reserve" not a "tourist center" and not a "out house"

Refuge land belongs to all citizens of USA.

The ranchers should be greatfull that they where privileged to graze the land for super cheep in the first place.

Now they wanna take the land cause they diddnt follow the rules and now are being fined because of it?

If dem stupid fucking haoles no like pay der bills then they can eat a big fucking bull dick.
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